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"What does God have to say to single mothers?" - 6/7/2008 9:50:48 PM
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/7/2008 10:52:03 PM
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ta_mosquito
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I think that verses about orphans and widows would apply.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/7/2008 11:16:49 PM
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Isa 54:5 (ESV) 5 For your Maker is your husband, the Lord of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.
Isa 62:3 - 4 (ESV) 3 You shall be a crown of beauty in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of your God. 4 You shall no more be termed Forsaken, and your land shall no more be termed Desolate, but you shall be called My Delight Is in Her, and your land Married; for the Lord delights in you, and your land shall be married.
Heb 13:20 - 21 (ESV) 20Now may the God of peace who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, by the blood of the eternal covenant,
21 thequip you with everything good that you may do his will, working in us£ that which is pleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/7/2008 11:18:57 PM
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1Timothy 5:3-"Honor widows[without mates] who are real widows. 4 If a widow has children or grandchildren, let them first learn their religious duty to their own family and make some return to their parents; for this is acceptable in the sight of God. 5 She who is a real widow, and is left all alone, has set her hope on God and continues in supplications and prayers night and day; 6 whereas she who is self-indulgent is dead even while she lives. 7 Command this, so that they may be without reproach. 8 If any one does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his own family, he has disowned the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/10/2008 10:31:03 AM
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Ruth shows some of this status of widows in a narrative story.
From my limited knoweldge, I believe the OT society, and at Jesus' time, society was organized so that any woman would belong to some family. She would have a 'place' and not simply be a single woman on her own. The family she would belong to would be her father's, her son's or some other related adult male.
John 19: 25-27 also illustrates this.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/10/2008 6:14:21 PM
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It appears that we are avoiding the elephant in the room(pardon to analogy). It depends on why she is a "single mother". I do not believe that leaving ones husband because one is not "happy" is honorable in the eyes of Adonia. I also believe Ha Torah(The Word) provides for all women depending on their circumstances. But, in order to receive this blessing that woman would have to accept the responsibilities of Torah living.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/12/2008 5:37:09 PM
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I was a single mom for 14 years.
And God's word has much to say to me. I am first a Christian woman and responsible to God for how I live my life. I am a parent and there is lots to say about parenting.
I mean, it's not like God's word is different for single moms, married moms or women in general.
What were you looking for?
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/12/2008 7:50:32 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: doinkdom
I was a single mom for 14 years.
And God's word has much to say to me. I am first a Christian woman and responsible to God for how I live my life. I am a parent and there is lots to say about parenting.
I mean, it's not like God's word is different for single moms, married moms or women in general.
What were you looking for?
On the contrary, Adonai definately takes our circumstances into account when He gives us direction. There are things that are universal to all, some are limited to the household of faith, still others are limited to women, and there are some different directions depending on whether a woman is married or not and finally, Adonai even cares enough to give direction to women based on the reason why they might find themselves alone. This last is most important, for just as it is not good for man to be alone, that is not a good thing for a woman either.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/13/2008 10:43:03 AM
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doinkdom
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Bluethread
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ORIGINAL: doinkdom
I was a single mom for 14 years.
And God's word has much to say to me. I am first a Christian woman and responsible to God for how I live my life. I am a parent and there is lots to say about parenting.
I mean, it's not like God's word is different for single moms, married moms or women in general.
What were you looking for?
On the contrary, Adonai definately takes our circumstances into account when He gives us direction. There are things that are universal to all, some are limited to the household of faith, still others are limited to women, and there are some different directions depending on whether a woman is married or not and finally, Adonai even cares enough to give direction to women based on the reason why they might find themselves alone. This last is most important, for just as it is not good for man to be alone, that is not a good thing for a woman either.
Not talking about roles here...but more about our position in growing more Christlike.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/13/2008 12:58:29 PM
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I believe, becoming more "Christlike" is as much about what we do, as it is about we what we think, feel and spiritually aquire. Since what we do is effected by our "roles" in life, what Adonai expects of us is effected by them to.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/14/2008 11:28:57 AM
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I was a single mom for many years, and while single, the Bible was the same as it was before I was single: correcting, loving, guiding, etc. There were many verses I relied upon, many of which I have already seen given in this thread.
The most difficult time I had during those years, however, was with other believers: those who interfered and those who told me I was sinning to remain single. My Bible supported neither.
The most insidious type remarks made to me then by believers was the same old story I continue to hear today: that the reason young people have so much trouble today is because they are being reared by single mothers. I heard it again just this month. That kind of remark deserves no respect, but it does deserve a quick and firm reprimand.
The Bible, however, is not a cruel as humankind's unjustified judgment.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/14/2008 1:19:30 PM
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If a single mother belongs to Christ...who are we to judge? Her status is a personal relationship with God.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/16/2008 9:32:13 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: doinkdom
I was a single mom for 14 years.
And God's word has much to say to me. I am first a Christian woman and responsible to God for how I live my life. I am a parent and there is lots to say about parenting.
I mean, it's not like God's word is different for single moms, married moms or women in general.
What were you looking for?
Exactly.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/16/2008 9:39:29 AM
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ORIGINAL: Covaan_Meshuga
I was a single mom for many years, and while single, the Bible was the same as it was before I was single: correcting, loving, guiding, etc. There were many verses I relied upon, many of which I have already seen given in this thread.
The most difficult time I had during those years, however, was with other believers: those who interfered and those who told me I was sinning to remain single. My Bible supported neither.
The most insidious type remarks made to me then by believers was the same old story I continue to hear today: that the reason young people have so much trouble today is because they are being reared by single mothers. I heard it again just this month. That kind of remark deserves no respect, but it does deserve a quick and firm reprimand.
The Bible, however, is not a cruel as humankind's unjustified judgment.
Actually the problem is those being reared are sinners, with parents who are sinners. I know a woman at our church who has been a widow since WWII, she is 98 years old now. You are correct there is nothing in God's word against, staying single or getting remarried after being a widow. God's grace is sufficient.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/17/2008 6:40:47 AM
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Looks kinda like the OP has not come back to thread. In first glance it looked like it was asking to see if any would start to argue that the Bible does not address single moms for it would not have been a custom in that time. Though it certainly would not be Gods preference for a single mom, for He made marriage so that would not be the case. But it does not condemn it either.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/17/2008 10:18:19 AM
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ta_mosquito
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Looks kinda like the OP has not come back to thread.
That's his style. He's a "start a thread and never post in it" type of poster. I don't know that I would assign any motive to it.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/17/2008 3:29:16 PM
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It appears that we are avoiding the elephant in the room(pardon to analogy). It depends on why she is a "single mother". I do not believe that leaving ones husband because one is not "happy" is honorable in the eyes of Adonia. I also believe Ha Torah(The Word) provides for all women depending on their circumstances. But, in order to receive this blessing that woman would have to accept the responsibilities of Torah living.
I find this offense. Just because women are the only gendre that can give birth, doesn't mean if she is single with child , its all her own fault.
Women have a right to be happy as in loved and the responsibilies of the torah apply to both men and women.
A women is no less a child of God than a man if they have placed their faith in Christ.
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/17/2008 8:12:22 PM
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From what I have seen of Bluethread, it was not his intention to indicate, in any way, that women must follow Torah in spite of the males, instead of the males, etc. I was a single mother because I was widowed. Some others are single mothers because of abuse and similar ideas. Others are single mothers because they made a mistake -- in other words, because of fornication, etc. I think Bluethread understands and recognizes that a male is usually the other side of this, unless the child was adopted or is being fostered.
That just is not his way, Butterfly. 
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/17/2008 11:35:28 PM
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RE: "What does God have to say to single mothers?&... - 6/19/2008 1:08:24 PM
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quote:
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It appears that we are avoiding the elephant in the room(pardon to analogy). It depends on why she is a "single mother". I do not believe that leaving ones husband because one is not "happy" is honorable in the eyes of Adonia. I also believe Ha Torah(The Word) provides for all women depending on their circumstances. But, in order to receive this blessing that woman would have to accept the responsibilities of Torah living.
I find this offense. Just because women are the only gendre that can give birth, doesn't mean if she is single with child , its all her own fault.
Women have a right to be happy as in loved and the responsibilies of the torah apply to both men and women.
A women is no less a child of God than a man if they have placed their faith in Christ.
I did not say it was all her fault, nor did I say anything about the man since that was not the question. I believe it is equally dishonorable for a man to leave his wife or send her away for any reason other than abuse, addiction or adultry.
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Moreover, when God gives any man wealth and possessions, and enables him to enjoy them, to accept his lot and be happy in his work--this is a gift of God.
I have found in the Scriptures that happiness is spoken of as a blessing, the result of rightious living or even an obligation of the person who wishes to possess it. I find nowhere in the Scriptures that anyone has a right to happiness. In fact there are passages that elude to the idea that seeking happiness as a goal in and of itself is not an honorable thing.
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