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:: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/23/2008 1:28:56 PM
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earthless
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In his upcoming biography of Jesus, "Basic Instinct" director Paul Verhoeven will make the shocking claim that Christ probably was the son of Mary and a Roman soldier who raped her during the Jewish uprising in Galilee, according to the Hollywood Reporter.
Catholic League President Bill Donohue called Verhoeven's claim "laughable."
"Here we go again with idle speculation grounded in absolutely nothing," Donohue told FOXNews.com. "He has no empirical evidence to support his claim, which is why they say 'may have.'"
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/23/2008 1:39:03 PM
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It's not exactly a new claim. There have been accusations of that in religious Jewish writings for centuries. The nickname a lot of religious Jews use even today for Jesus is actually a Hebrew acronym that accuses Him of having been a b-----d child. My Hebrew professor in Bible institute warned us when we went to Israel that if you're talking to an Orthodox Jew and they ask you if you're a follower of "Yesu", the answer is "NO".
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/23/2008 1:46:50 PM
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In the latter part of the piece it states he is a member of 'The Jesus Seminar'. If anyone is interested in knowing about this group and the Christian groups that have provided them with rebuttal's to their claims - let me know. My wife's old professor is a leading man in that organization.
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/23/2008 2:01:56 PM
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Methinks they doth protest too much.
There sure must be a lot of people threatened by Jesus these days to be putting out so many "theories" to prove He wasn't the Son of God.
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/23/2008 2:18:52 PM
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more Jesus Seminar tripe. man, humanity's concept of 'fear of the Lord' just ain't what it used to be.
the guy also directed 'Showgirls', which should tell you something about him. calling him Catholic is like calling Hitler a huggable humanitarian. last time i checked, Catholic doctrine required the belief in the Incarnation and Virgin Birth, not some product of an uholy violation.
let's see, 20 years of research v 2000 years of Truth...
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/23/2008 2:24:32 PM
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Ya know, I always suspected the director of Robocop and Showgirls would have insights into the life of Christ few other scholars could imagine.
That just made me laugh out loud...giving my co-workers further proof I'm not quite right.
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/23/2008 2:47:45 PM
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Ya know, I always suspected the director of Robocop and Showgirls would have insights into the life of Christ few other scholars could imagine.
Kinda like an old Nixon speechwriter enlightening academia on the origins of the human species.
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/23/2008 3:19:58 PM
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Kinda like an old Nixon speechwriter enlightening academia on the origins of the human species.
Question, not enlighten.
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/23/2008 3:49:45 PM
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It's not exactly a new claim. There have been accusations of that in religious Jewish writings for centuries. The nickname a lot of religious Jews use even today for Jesus is actually a Hebrew acronym that accuses Him of having been a b-----d child. My Hebrew professor in Bible institute warned us when we went to Israel that if you're talking to an Orthodox Jew and they ask you if you're a follower of "Yesu", the answer is "NO".
It seems to me that Peter denied Jesus three times. It isn't what we are supposed to do......................
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/23/2008 4:05:27 PM
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It's not exactly a new claim. There have been accusations of that in religious Jewish writings for centuries. The nickname a lot of religious Jews use even today for Jesus is actually a Hebrew acronym that accuses Him of having been a b-----d child. My Hebrew professor in Bible institute warned us when we went to Israel that if you're talking to an Orthodox Jew and they ask you if you're a follower of "Yesu", the answer is "NO".
It seems to me that Peter denied Jesus three times. It isn't what we are supposed to do......................
-Dave
No one was denying Jesus. "Yesu", as I said in my post, is a acronym taken from a Hebrew phrase that calls Jesus a b-----d. Part of the point of the nickname is as a nasty joke on Christians who don't realize that there's a difference between the nickname "Y.E.S.U." and Jesus' Hebrew name "Y'shua".
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/24/2008 8:26:03 AM
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Maybe this explains why Jesus was a white blue eyed blonde man...?????
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/24/2008 8:52:01 AM
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In the latter part of the piece it states he is a member of 'The Jesus Seminar'. If anyone is interested in knowing about this group and the Christian groups that have provided them with rebuttal's to their claims - let me know. My wife's old professor is a leading man in that organization.
I think the Jesus Seminar people don't even take Verhoeven seriously sometimes.
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/24/2008 9:29:16 AM
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I think the Jesus Seminar people don't even take Verhoeven seriously sometimes.
They sure do take his $$$$ seriously.
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/24/2008 9:32:20 AM
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Hollywood loves to speculate about Jesus, and make the Holy look lurid.
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/24/2008 11:53:42 AM
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Maybe this explains why Jesus was a white blue eyed blonde man...?????
Actually, I've heard some Aryan Nation types make exactly that argument. They claim that Mary had relations (either consensual or not) with a Roman soldier from one of Rome's Germanic Legions who was stationed at the garrison in Cephoras, which was a mostly greco-roman city near Nazareth.
I've always wondered if these clowns realize they're borrowing an idea from (horrors!!) a Jewish myth.
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/24/2008 12:16:20 PM
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Mark Shea posted on this yesterday ...
http://markshea.blogspot.com/2008_04_01 ... 3450562157
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Remember: One good rule of thumb whenever one encounters a "real Jesus" who is radically at odds with the picture offered by the ordinary Tradition, Scripture and magisterial teaching of the Church is to examine the dominant fixations of one's own age and see how much of a Rorschach ink blot test that new "real Jesus" is. This "real Jesus" is, like all the others, a reflection of our Paris Hiltonized culture.
The difference between Verhoeven and the ancient Jews who first concocted the slur is that the ancient Jews were of sound enough mind to know that the slur, if true, destroyed Jesus' messianic claims, while Verhoeven is so debased that he has no interest in whether Jesus was Messiah, because he just wants to associate him and the Blessed Virgin with a little sexy scandal so he can make money off the titillation. The ancient Jews who invented the slur were higher and nobler men--and therefore capable of graver sin when they lied about Christ. Verhoeven is, by comparison, a critter barely able to think above the gutter and his sin is the intellectual equivalent of spray painting "SEX RULZ!" on an icon.
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/25/2008 11:55:24 AM
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LOL!! I see, though, that others have done the same thing, at times, with their pictures making Christ to be identifiable with regards to their own race, or tribe, and the mere appearances of the flesh which counts for nothing. For some of the tribes of Joseph, Ephraim and Mannaseh, were half egyptian and the tribe of one of the wives of Moses was another people; possibly Nubian. For it is written when his brother Aaron and his Wife complained against Moses on account of the ethnicity of His new Lady.
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Maybe this explains why Jesus was a white blue eyed blonde man...?????
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/25/2008 10:05:31 PM
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Giants 17 Patriots 14.
Even though I took german in highschool, that was 30 years ago, I do agree with the score.
Go Giants
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/26/2008 8:03:45 AM
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ahhh...but...can they disprove the hundreds of other Old Testament prophecies that Jesus fulfilled?
Where He was born.
Where He lived.
How He was killed.
The amount of money given to the traitor.
There are many more.
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/26/2008 10:06:38 AM
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Seems to be an abundance of people desperately trying to reach the hottest parts of hell.
Well, fortunately there's Matthew 12:32
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RE: :: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - 4/26/2008 10:22:11 AM
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Me thinks that some folks just have too much time on their hands.
Thanks
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