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Help Please - 6/21/2008 12:52:49 PM
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Mysterious101
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I need help finding the story about the first colored person in the bible if you can help me i thank you so much 
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RE: Help Please - 6/21/2008 1:37:31 PM
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I don't know...but I did want to say welcome to you 
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RE: Help Please - 6/21/2008 2:20:02 PM
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I need help finding the story about the first colored person in the bible if you can help me i thank you so much
That would be quite a task as the Bible doesn't really pay much attention to a person's skin color, but the condition of their heart.
That sort of reduces us to speculation based upon the country or area that the person came from.
If by colored you mean "black" odds are that you need to look for Ethiopians or Nubians.
Ethiopia may refer only to the Nile valley above the First Cataract, but in ancient as in modern times the term was often used not only to include what is now known as Nubia and the Sūdān (Soudan), but all the unknown country farther West and South, and also at times Northern, if not Southern, Abyssinia.
There aren't many details about any of the people mentioned as having been from those lands, most of the "action" takes place in lands populated by the same sort of people who are in the middle east now, sort of beige/olive.
Of all the verses I found in a quick search using Ethiopia or Nubia as the search criteria Jeremiah 38:1-13 is probably the best bet as it is about an Ethiopian who rescued Jeremiah the prophet.
You might also consider (Acts 8:27) And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
One other possibility comes to mind:
(Acts 13:1) Now there were at Antioch, in the church that was there, prophets and teachers: Barnabas, and Simeon who was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.
Niger is pronounce NI- JER as in Nigeria, and means black...which could mean that he had dark skin, or merely dark hair and eyes.
Also bear in mind that Jesus and all of the disciples, as well as King David and the Jews themselves, as well as most of the population of that area were not white Anglo-Saxons but tended towards skin tones like those of the people in that area of the world even today.
Hopefully this helps a little.
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RE: Help Please - 6/21/2008 2:47:02 PM
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Gen 25:25 Now the first came forth red, all over like a hairy garment; and they named him Esau.
I think maybe Esau was the first colored person mentioned in the bible..... was there one before him?
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RE: Help Please - 6/21/2008 11:14:31 PM
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Who knows? Geographically, everyone in the bible was likely dark-skinned. (Or darker-skinned.)
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RE: Help Please - 6/22/2008 12:27:02 AM
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Who knows? Geographically, everyone in the bible was likely dark-skinned. (Or darker-skinned.)
Actually, Adam was a "Redskin" (that's what "Adam" means in Hebrew) and Esau was another "Redskin". We also read that David was "ruddy", which means we now have another "Redskin". Looks like the Hebrews were Redskins (without tomahawks).
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RE: Help Please - 6/22/2008 12:26:28 PM
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The Cushites are thought to be dark-skinned/african. However, anyone who lived in the region of the world where the bible was written is probably pretty dark, at least the commoners would've been. Imagine how much time they spent in the sun, working, as well as walking, everywhere they went.
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RE: Help Please - 6/22/2008 3:20:01 PM
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Looks like the Hebrews were Redskins (without tomahawks).
Does this mean the Philestines were the Cowboys
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RE: Help Please - 6/23/2008 6:28:06 PM
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There were different ethnicities mentioned in early Bible times as families broke off from one another, but probably the first mention of bias due to different skin color was Miriam complaining about Moses' Cushite wife. (Numbers 12) She, being a Cushite from Africa, would have been very dark. Miriam, incidentally, was cursed with being "white", which, in Hebrew, is the word we translate a "leprosy".
Yes, God has a sense of humor.
There is also the Shunamite lover in the Song of Solomon, Alexander of Cyrene who carried the cross for Jesus, and the Ethiopian eunuch.
< Message edited by DougHorton -- 6/23/2008 6:34:49 PM >
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RE: Help Please - 6/23/2008 6:54:14 PM
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So, OP - got any feedback yet?
Doug - I always took the Shulamite woman in SoS to be dark, but not Black. She says to not look down on her due to her dark skin, that she had to work in the fields. This suggests to me that she was sun-darkened, not dark by birth.
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RE: Help Please - 6/23/2008 10:53:40 PM
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They were all Black/colored or certainly what we consider black/brown, etc. the trick is to find the first white person, who I believe was Miriam who was turned white with leprosy.
There are still tribes in Africa that are "red" or have red hair, etc.
If you read alot of ancient writings, it was never a question that they were black/colored, etc. People flocked to Africa to learn especially Egypt.
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page
It was only after Darwin, etc came along was history changed to fit the Europeans.
Romans carried Black Madonnas, the CAtholic Church admits this and says they hid them to appease Europeans.
http://www.saxakali.com/suzar/madonna.htm
DNA says Tanzania is where the first tribe started, which is consistent with the Arch. evidence.
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/stephenoppenheimer/stephen-oppenheimer.html
Keep searching, you will be surprised with what you find.
Use common sense.
Most albinios have blue eyes. Most people do not know that, they think of extreme albinos. With the red eyes, and white hair but those are extreme, the people you see walking around...
Rome called them albinions. The Bible calls them lepers.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/15/AR2005121501728_pf.html
http://www.freemaninstitutefoundation.org/
I like him alot and still have not went through the whole site.
I remember when I asked that question? It's been a learning experience!
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RE: Help Please - 6/23/2008 11:19:18 PM
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From what I know Hagar was quite dark and actually when Noah's son immigrated to Egypt he became black/brown since the sun is stronger in that area.
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RE: Help Please - 6/24/2008 11:45:06 AM
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They were all Black/colored or certainly what we consider black/brown, etc. the trick is to find the first white person, who I believe was Miriam who was turned white with leprosy.
Too true. Christianity is wrongly called the "white man's religion" for "whites" are by far the minority in both the world's ethnic groups and the Body of Christ.
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