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How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 1:27:33 AM
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hogpharmer
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Do you think how a person treats animals shows anything about their character?
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 1:54:26 AM
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Yes, but what does that have to do with being single?
Or do you mean we should see how a potential spouse treats animals?
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 4:27:22 AM
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Thanks OOHJ!
Yep, please relate this to being single.......and I'm sure you'll get more responses.
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 9:06:01 AM
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Or do you mean we should see how a potential spouse treats animals?
I think it does. If they have pets or farm animals, we should watch carefully to see how they treat them. Do they give them plenty of food/water? Vet care? Regular baths? Do they provide a clean living space? How do they talk about their animals? If they're not taking care of their animals, are they going to take care of you and your children?
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 10:24:37 AM
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Yes. Although I've never really been around a lot of animals (I wasn't raised with pets because I was allergic to pet hair), I think that we should be kind to them and should take good care of them. If a man is abusive, mean, or neglectful with animals, I think that is a sign that he'll be that way to me or to children. But in my case, if he really loves animals a lot and wants to have a lot of pets, that might be an issue. I might be ok with a small dog or possibly a cat, but I can not have Noah's ark in my house - so I would not be a good match for that man.
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 10:37:27 AM
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Yes. Although I've never really been around a lot of animals (I wasn't raised with pets because I was allergic to pet hair), I think that we should be kind to them and should take good care of them. If a man is abusive, mean, or neglectful with animals, I think that is a sign that he'll be that way to me or to children. But in my case, if he really loves animals a lot and wants to have a lot of pets, that might be an issue. I might be ok with a small dog or possibly a cat, but I can not have Noah's ark in my house - so I would not be a good match for that man.
Ditto. Not because I'm allergic, just because a house full of animals,  I think indoors I'd prefer a cat over a dog, just seems cleaner. IMO dogs belong outside.
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 11:37:46 AM
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hogpharmer
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Yeah, I meant how a potential spouse treats animals.
I ask because someone I know said that if his dog got pregnant because the neighbors children let her loose while she was in heat, he would make them watch as he drown the entire litter. He later said that threatening the kids with that was the only way he could get through to them. He also said that he would most likely not drown the dogs, but make the neighbors take care of them. Sounds heartless, actually, to even threaten children with that, regardless of whether you had any intention of going through with it or not.
Edited for clarification.
< Message edited by hogpharmer -- 9/15/2008 12:30:12 PM >
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 12:19:01 PM
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I love animals, so how someone treats animals is really important to me in a possible spouse. If they hate animals, well - we aren't likely to get along very well but they may be alright otherwise.
But if they are cruel to animals - its' right out. I feel like God gave us a certain amount of responsibility in regards to animals and anyone who abuses that is not someone I want to be close to.
What you describe, about drowning the puppies in front of the children - is cruel to both! And I'm pretty sure illegal. Imagine the impact that would have on those kids! Sounds like he'd make them feel responsible - and no innocent should be made to watch the willfull death of another.
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 12:36:17 PM
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What you describe, about drowning the puppies in front of the children - is cruel to both! And I'm pretty sure illegal. Imagine the impact that would have on those kids! Sounds like he'd make them feel responsible - and no innocent should be made to watch the willfull death of another.
You are correct it is cruel to both and also agree about it being illegal.
I agree with all the other responses about treating animals badly is a reflection about how the person may treat you (or children). I assume you mean animals you own as opposed to a stray dog that's charging at you.
Speaking of animals I think it is time to change avatars.
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 12:51:32 PM
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Um, I think anyone who considers that person a potential spouse needs some serious counseling.
And here's a thought ... why not discuss this with the children's PARENTS?
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 3:36:42 PM
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Thanks for all of the responses.
I am very much a dog person, but I turn don't want to have Noah's ark running around, either.
I think what disturbed me most about the whole deal was that the man in question makes his living by teaching...children. Oh well, situation handled.
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 6:02:04 PM
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It sounds to me like he should let someone more responsible care for his dog than some kids, who could let her loose. Also, most animals adopted from an animal shelter are fixed so where pups are not a possibility. So as a single guy, to let this young female dog be in the position of doing what comes naturally to dogs, well, hey. If he doesn't want puppies around, isn't going to help her care for them and breed them or whatever, then he should help her (his dog) do the right thing and 'neutrain' from doggie love. That whole story sounds like that spooky gingerbread house and the witch that tried to cook the kids in the oven- that kind of teaching mentality.
It would be a more interesting story if the guy was talking pigs, y'know.
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 6:24:00 PM
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It would be a more interesting story if the guy was talking pigs, y'know.
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I agree with the rest of your post, but how would pigs be different or more interesting?
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/15/2008 7:25:37 PM
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It would be a more interesting story if the guy was talking pigs, y'know.
OneJohn410
I agree with the rest of your post, but how would pigs be different or more interesting?
They squeal more when you drown them?
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/17/2008 6:31:15 PM
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How people treat animals reveals their true character.
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/18/2008 8:10:07 AM
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Are you so attached to your pet that you wouldn't give them up for a mate?
I loooove cats. And they love me. Unfortunately their dander and hair doesn't love me or my children.
I've actually had men shy away from me because of that. *snigger*
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/18/2008 9:31:49 AM
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Are you so attached to your pet that you wouldn't give them up for a mate?
I don't have any pets at the moment. But if I did, the new wife would have to accept the pets the same as she'd have to accept my children.
Likewise if she has pets I will accept them.
When you get a pet you are committing to take care of that pet until it dies. About the only reasons a pet should have to find a new home is if you can no longer care for them properly or if family member develops a reaction to them, or the animal becomes hazardous (biting for example).
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/18/2008 9:35:22 AM
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Are you so attached to your pet that you wouldn't give them up for a mate?
I don't have any pets at the moment. But if I did, the new wife would have to accept the pets the same as she'd have to accept my children.
Likewise if she has pets I will accept them.
When you get a pet you are committing to take care of that pet until it dies. About the only reasons a pet should have to find a new home is if you can no longer care for them properly or if family member develops a reaction to them, or the animal becomes hazardous (biting for example).
Hence my question. The Things and I are severely allergic to cats. As a man, if you had a cat, would you not date a woman simply for that reason or would you find a new home for your cat?
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/18/2008 10:45:00 AM
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There is a certain sense of relief for me when someone I'm interested isn't a cat hater ... or allergic :)
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/18/2008 11:04:53 AM
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About the only reasons a pet should have to find a new home is if you can no longer care for them properly or if family member develops a reaction to them, or the animal becomes hazardous (biting for example).
Hence my question. The Things and I are severely allergic to cats. As a man, if you had a cat, would you not date a woman simply for that reason or would you find a new home for your cat?
I'm very much a cat person. If she was severely allergic to cats I'd probably figure that we weren't meant to be together as it's hard for me to pass a cat without loving on it. Cats normally love me.
If I were to find a new home for the cat and she only lasted one or two dates then I'd have sacrificed a family member for nothing. Me, the Girl, the boat and the pets (should we get some) are a package deal. I wouldn't ask her to leave her pets behind either.
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/18/2008 11:09:39 AM
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I'm allergic to cats.
But if you get me, you get
<---him too.
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RE: How people treat animals - 9/18/2008 11:33:20 AM
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When you get a pet you are committing to take care of that pet until it dies. This is how I feel as well..........it has become a major issue in my life at the moment......I am trying to find a place to move that not only would work for me but work for Gilbert as well. He was raised in the country with a doggie door and a very large fenced yard.
Most the places I have looked at either do not allow dogs or are too far away from work for me to run home to let him out at lunch nor do they have places for him to run.
My family and friends think I should find him a nice home.
I just can't do that.......I try to think about it and make my mind see the rationale.....but I just get sick to my stomach at the thought.......
He was my daddies buddy and though I was not the one who committed to take care of him when my father first got him, I am the one who raised him with my father........He is such a good boy.......and I feel like it would be so unfair to him to lose another person in his life now...........
By stepping up when he was a puppy and taking on responsibility for him, I made a commitment to him........sometimes I feel like I let my dad down......like I didn't take care of him well enough.......that if I had he would not have died..........and I am not going to let down Gilbert as well.......silly I know but it how I feel........
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