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Jesus & Horus??? - 7/10/2008 1:59:42 PM
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ohmandy80
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There are numerous videos on YouTube that explore the alleged links between Jesus, the sun, and other ancient 'gods.'
Is anyone familiar with these & what do you make of them?
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/10/2008 2:06:59 PM
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satan is the deciever and has orchastrated many simular religions to confuse people from the Truth. If you dig deep enough you will see these other "simular" beliefs are not the true God, Jesus Christ
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/10/2008 5:05:16 PM
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There are numerous videos on YouTube that explore the alleged links between Jesus, the sun, and other ancient 'gods.'
Is anyone familiar with these & what do you make of them?
The only link that I am aware of about Jesus being linked to ancent Gods and is supported by Scripture is that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God (Who is the original and only God).
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/10/2008 5:55:22 PM
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RC, may we have a link, please?
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/10/2008 6:11:13 PM
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RC, may we have a link, please?
He's talking about a link as in a connection, not a web link.
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/10/2008 6:47:22 PM
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Usually its either weak-willed minded people, or people wo are supposedl so- "smart", that they just can't believe the simplicity (if you will) of what we believe. But mostly- and this is my biggest point - it is mostly those who never, ever had a relationship with God in the first place.
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/10/2008 7:08:33 PM
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/11/2008 4:41:57 AM
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Wow, Earthless, that link had a lot of information in it! Some of what the author was refuting as bad history I had heard and thought was true. I had always thought the subject was fascinating, but maybe fascination with pagan religions in the first place is not a good thing.
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/11/2008 7:39:38 AM
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Jesus & Horus???
At the time of Jesus there were over ten different "mystery religions" that had a theme of a virgin birth, and a resurrected son. The religion of Isis was only one of these. It should not be strange that Satan had the ancient world awash with these types of religions in the hopes that Christianity would be lost in a sea of similar "stories".
Satan could tell when and where Jesus would be born from the Bible. He knew that Jesus would be born of a virgin, die, and be raised again. It is sad that with this much information in the Bible, the Jews mostly did not recognize Jesus.
While Satan is very clever, he does not seem to appreciate the power of God. Christianity did not spread through the ancient world because it was the most compelling story. Christianity is "Christ in you, the hope of glory".
Today Satan , while he still uses some of the old tactics, has achieved a collectivized society where people do not really know each other. The powerful testimony of a transformed life was sufficient to lead people to trust in Jesus under the most adverse circumstances (persecution, seizure of property, etc.) Since people today often do not know each other well enough to see the real change that happens when a person becomes a Christian, they more often trust in "experts" to tell them what is true.
Satan has an endless supply of experts. We often see them on PBS explaining to the less enlightened how simple minded primitive people might have mistakenly thought Jesus was the Son of God. Now that experts have plumbed the depths of past ignorance, they can explain away the superstitions of Christianity.
These are the same "experts" that tell us killing children makes sense, evolution is plausible, the destruction of the family is necessary, and collectivism is beneficial. There were "experts" at the time of Jesus as well, they were called Pharisees. Jesus did not come to the experts so that they could tell the people. Jesus spoke to the people and presented them with the truth.
The function of Satan is to use his web of lies and deceit to pull away all those who do not love truth.
Exodus 32:26
Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD's side? let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/11/2008 9:30:15 AM
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RC, may we have a link, please?
Try googling Holy Bible.
Thanks
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/11/2008 2:15:54 PM
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There isn't much solid evidence for the parallels between Horus and Jesus. Many atheists choose not to use that argument because of this.
Much of the awareness this has gotten recently is because of the work by D.M. Murdock in the movie, The Zeitgeist. People often accuse her of "making stuff up". She goes further in her books to suggest a reason for these parallels due to what we know of astrological myths in many many cultures around the world.
However, there are other more scholarly accepted hero archetypes Jesus and others fall in to.
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/11/2008 3:18:31 PM
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Jesus & Horus???
At the time of Jesus there were over ten different "mystery religions" that had a theme of a virgin birth, and a resurrected son. The religion of Isis was only one of these. It should not be strange that Satan had the ancient world awash with these types of religions in the hopes that Christianity would be lost in a sea of similar "stories".
Satan could tell when and where Jesus would be born from the Bible. He knew that Jesus would be born of a virgin, die, and be raised again. It is sad that with this much information in the Bible, the Jews mostly did not recognize Jesus.
While Satan is very clever, he does not seem to appreciate the power of God. Christianity did not spread through the ancient world because it was the most compelling story. Christianity is "Christ in you, the hope of glory".
Today Satan , while he still uses some of the old tactics, has achieved a collectivized society where people do not really know each other. The powerful testimony of a transformed life was sufficient to lead people to trust in Jesus under the most adverse circumstances (persecution, seizure of property, etc.) Since people today often do not know each other well enough to see the real change that happens when a person becomes a Christian, they more often trust in "experts" to tell them what is true.
Satan has an endless supply of experts. We often see them on PBS explaining to the less enlightened how simple minded primitive people might have mistakenly thought Jesus was the Son of God. Now that experts have plumbed the depths of past ignorance, they can explain away the superstitions of Christianity.
These are the same "experts" that tell us killing children makes sense, evolution is plausible, the destruction of the family is necessary, and collectivism is beneficial. There were "experts" at the time of Jesus as well, they were called Pharisees. Jesus did not come to the experts so that they could tell the people. Jesus spoke to the people and presented them with the truth.
The function of Satan is to use his web of lies and deceit to pull away all those who do not love truth.
Exodus 32:26
Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD's side? let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.
I Love it!!!
Beautifully put!!!
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/12/2008 5:51:21 PM
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There are numerous videos on YouTube that explore the alleged links between Jesus, the sun, and other ancient 'gods.'
Is anyone familiar with these & what do you make of them?
I'm sure there's several videos on YouTube on just about whatever it is you could think about watching. I'm not familiar with the ones you mention, and your post doesn't pique my curiousity to go look for them, either. I don't consider YouTube to be a reference or point of knowledge about anything. I don't consider Jesus to be an ancient god, I've learned the sun is God's creation to provide heat and life to Earth, and my general faith has no room or interest in other ancient gods. Out of curiousity, how ancient do you think Jesus is? I've never thought of that- putting an age on immortal God the Son.
God's blessings to you as you abound in good works!
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/13/2008 9:04:40 PM
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There are numerous videos on YouTube that explore the alleged links between Jesus, the sun, and other ancient 'gods.'
Is anyone familiar with these & what do you make of them?
They're nonsense. Here's what Tektonics head honcho JP Holding says on the subject:
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/copycatwho2.html
and
http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/osy.html
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/13/2008 9:17:17 PM
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RC, may we have a link, please?
He's talking about a link as in a connection, not a web link.
Oops. Sorry. There are days I read carefully, and there are days I skim. Wrong day.
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/13/2008 9:25:15 PM
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RC, may we have a link, please?
Try googling Holy Bible.
Thanks
RC
That sounds like a lot of work. I think I'll just read one I already have.
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/13/2008 10:31:05 PM
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ohmandy80
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Out of curiousity, how ancient do you think Jesus is? I've never thought of that- putting an age on immortal God the Son.
I think that Jesus is eternal. I wouldn't have thought of putting an age on Him, either, and I don't.
My argument, if there is any merit to the historicity of such claims, is this: just as there is coming an antichrist, there could also have been "antechrists" devised by satan to deceive many.
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/13/2008 10:54:09 PM
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ORIGINAL: ohmandy80
There are numerous videos on YouTube that explore the alleged links between Jesus, the sun, and other ancient 'gods.'
Is anyone familiar with these & what do you make of them?
They're nonsense. Here's what Tektonics head honcho JP Holding says on the subject:
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/copycatwho2.html
and
http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/osy.html
wordslinger, thanks for the links. It just goes to show you people will believe what they want to believe, even if the evidence and proof say otherwise. One more myth bites the dust.
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/13/2008 11:31:55 PM
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earthless that was a good article.
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RE: Jesus & Horus??? - 7/13/2008 11:51:05 PM
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RC, may we have a link, please?
He's talking about a link as in a connection, not a web link.
Oops. Sorry. There are days I read carefully, and there are days I skim. Wrong day.
:) I do that too.
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