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Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/16/2007 2:55:02 AM
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HeavenBound007
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I know LEV 19 states it is wrong to mark and pierce your body. But in the new Test,as Jesus was crucified he gave us new believers Freedom in Christ. As long as it's not blasphemy, demonic, or lustful, and it's done in the Glory of God.......is it ok?
I had one family member say that it's devils ink. However I have a cousin when he was recently Saved had Jesus portrait inked and it said "Walking with the Lord"
What is your opinion on this? For I had many mixed answers in my family on this.[/color]
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/16/2007 5:35:23 AM
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Honestly? Take the context. The Canaanites would get tatoos as a form of worship for they dead relatives (oogy subject, I know) and recieved piercings as a religious ritual. When Isaac took Rebecca, the first thing he did was "put a ring in her nose"... there are several referrences to this same practice among Abraham's family in the Old Testament. So basically, why are you getting the tat? Most people like the ascetics of a certain design, and some people just want to wear a permanent message on themselves. So I honestly don't think it is a sin. A) people aren't getting it to worship the dead, and B) it is not what goes into a man's stomache that defiles him, but what comes from his mouth. So think about that for a little while.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/18/2007 2:46:59 PM
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I know LEV 19 states it is wrong to mark and pierce your body. But in the new Test,as Jesus was crucified he gave us new believers Freedom in Christ. As long as it's not blasphemy, demonic, or lustful, and it's done in the Glory of God.......is it ok?
I had one family member say that it's devils ink. However I have a cousin when he was recently Saved had Jesus portrait inked and it said "Walking with the Lord"
What is your opinion on this? For I had many mixed answers in my family on this.[/color]
I agree it is the motivation that is important. I think a lot of people get tattoos to draw attention to themselves. I would say that is not a proper motivation.
Where did your cousin get a picture of Jesus?
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/18/2007 3:08:05 PM
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man what a day! From Halloween to tatoos! Wow! I have 3 tats myself. A mascot of my fav. sports team on one shoulder. The picture of a tombstone on the other shoulder with the words Death to self on the tombstone. I have lots of fun explaining that one. and lastly I have the Regimental Crest for the 187 Infantry Regiment. My old army unit. I got that one when my fellow troops whom I served with deployed for Afghanistan in '02, at that time I was already out of service. As far as tatoos, you will get plenty of "devils ink" in here. However, I challenge you to read that scripture in it's context. Because if we observe that one part of the law, what about the Sabbath? Do we totally shut down to worship on Saturday? I believe Paul was abundantly clear in his teaching that Christ redeemed us completely from the law.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/18/2007 3:18:22 PM
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stellaluna
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(oh sorry...tattoos...not Dr. Seuss)
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/18/2007 3:53:24 PM
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I always find it awfully sad, that we as Christians come up with excuse permission papers to do just about anything "as long as your heart is in the right place". There is a verse that says the heart is inheritantly evil so I by far wouldn't be trusting people's hearts. Apparently we can't just accept God saying No and Yes anymore that we have to "reason" through it now.
Yes It's a sin. I'm sure Heavenbound007 you'll hear differently because of the whole notion of "emerse in the world" notion that people buy into. Im sorry but I am just going to go by what it says instead of a permission paper around it. I would go into the Law discussion but that would be going way into another subject.
I'll post more later.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/18/2007 3:56:56 PM
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miasma
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The law discussion, as far as Lev. is concerned, isn't a valid argument against tattoos, thanks to the New Covenant.
I find it sad Christians get so caught up in playing the sin game, rather than using the autonomous, critical thinking God was so gracious to grant us.
It has nothing to do with being "emersed" in the world.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/18/2007 4:43:13 PM
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As much as I can't stand the sight of tattoos, I also can't find a valid Scriptural argument prohibiting them either.
Odd that folks who get their boxers in a bunch over tattoos don't give earrings a second thought, when it's still a basic, visible alteration of the human body.
So if that's your thing, have at it....
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/18/2007 4:50:14 PM
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man what a day! From Halloween to tatoos! Wow! I have 3 tats myself. A mascot of my fav. sports team on one shoulder. The picture of a tombstone on the other shoulder with the words Death to self on the tombstone. I have lots of fun explaining that one. and lastly I have the Regimental Crest for the 187 Infantry Regiment. My old army unit. I got that one when my fellow troops whom I served with deployed for Afghanistan in '02, at that time I was already out of service. As far as tatoos, you will get plenty of "devils ink" in here. However, I challenge you to read that scripture in it's context. Because if we observe that one part of the law, what about the Sabbath? Do we totally shut down to worship on Saturday? I believe Paul was abundantly clear in his teaching that Christ redeemed us completely from the law.
Christ also told us that He did not come to abolish the Law, and He also set standards that were even higher. The only one of the commandments He didn't repeat was regarding the Sabbath. But the principle of having one day of rest a week is pretty clear, whether it be the Sabbath or the Lord's Day.
Yes, as believers, we are under grace, not law. But that doesn't mean we can do anything we please and God is cool with it.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/18/2007 4:57:33 PM
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I find it sad Christians get so caught up in playing the sin game, rather than using the autonomous, critical thinking God was so gracious to grant us.
What does that mean? When I hear autonomous in this context it reminds me of the verse:
"There is a way that seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death.
The New King James Version. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1982, S. Pr 14:12
I don't think we are supposed to be autonomous. We are each responsible for our own decisions, but those decisions should be based on the Bible, and on godly counsel, when necessary.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/18/2007 5:37:15 PM
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miasma
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We are each responsible for our own decisions, but those decisions should be based on the Bible, and on godly counsel, when necessary.
Obviously. And, as has been shown repeatedly, in the nearly 10 years I've posted on CW (during which time tattoos have become even more socially acceptable), there is nothing in the Bible saying tattoos are a "sin."
I think it's a petty use of the word. Sin is a grave issue, not one to be bandied about from one social moray to the next, depending on one's personal preference and opinion.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/18/2007 5:59:55 PM
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amannoftruth
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I think it's a petty use of the word. Sin is a grave issue, not one to be bandied about from one social moray to the next, depending on one's personal preference and opinion.
Perhaps, but sin is not rare in our lives, and the word does not need to be reserved for only the most heinous actions. Many, many things qualify as sinful. All of us one here have probably sinned several times just typing our posts--because of impure thoughts and unkind words.
Let's look at this a little differently. Instead of asking: "Is it a sin?", why not ask: "Does it glorify God?"
Personally, I don't think it does. The Bible may not specifically forbid believers from having tattoos, but you have to look at the principles. The Bible doesn't specifically forbid abortion, gambling, or any number of other things most Christians would consider wrong, but the principles are clear.
In regard to tattoos:
They call attention to oneself.
They permanently mark the temple of the Holy Spirit.
They can hurt a believer's witness. Until recently, tattoos have, for the most part, had a negative connotation in our society, and still do for many people. Not having tattoos normally doesn't turn others off, but having them often does.
Believers are supposed to be set apart from the world. If we do and say all the same things as unbelievers, we are not being the holy people God intends us to be. Why not be different from the world in this area?
Those are just a few things that come to mind.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/19/2007 9:09:16 PM
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heavenwardalways
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ORIGINAL: HeavenBound007
I know LEV 19 states it is wrong to mark and pierce your body. But in the new Test,as Jesus was crucified he gave us new believers Freedom in Christ. As long as it's not blasphemy, demonic, or lustful, and it's done in the Glory of God.......is it ok?
I had one family member say that it's devils ink. However I have a cousin when he was recently Saved had Jesus portrait inked and it said "Walking with the Lord"
What is your opinion on this? For I had many mixed answers in my family on this.[/color]
When I got my pegasus tattoo I didn't know about the LEV 19 scripture. And it bothered me a long time until the Lord gave me peace about it. I want to get one more of a butterfly arising out of a cacoon infront of a mountain with the sun coming up. It symbolizes this new season in my life.
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/20/2007 2:26:23 AM
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They can hurt a believer's witness. Until recently, tattoos have, for the most part, had a negative connotation in our society, and still do for many people. Not having tattoos normally doesn't turn others off, but having them often does.
This might be true if you keep yourself within the confines of your church building and refuse to mix with people under 50.
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Believers are supposed to be set apart from the world. If we do and say all the same things as unbelievers, we are not being the holy people God intends us to be. Why not be different from the world in this area?
So, how 'set apart from the world' are you if you're strictly "business casual"? Just how 'different from the world' can you be in LL Bean? Will my mullet hurt my witness?
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/20/2007 10:13:22 AM
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Believers are supposed to be set apart from the world.
Good grief, how many times does this straw man get dragged out and paraded?
Since we ALL look like the world in one form or another, one can only conclude that this oft quoted scripture is referring to the state of our hearts and minds.
And here I am, a man who would never get a tattoo in a million years, defending those who have 'em. Who'da thunk it?
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RE: Tattoos a Sin???? - 9/20/2007 10:35:37 AM
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It won't hurt your witness, but it just might hurt your chances with the ladies.
It didn't hurt Billy Ray Cyrus. And he didn't have A mullet. He had THE mullet......
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I do not think tattos are a sin. Though I would never get one myself, I don't think less of people that do have them. I have seen some truly unique and beautiful tattoos that are like works of art. I don't think a person should, on a whim, go and get one only because it "looks cool". That's a really bad reason, it's permament! But if you think long and hard beforehand and it's unique and personal to you I say why not?
HA! good one 
