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The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 6/29/2006 11:56:21 PM
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Ephraim
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The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas
What is the Mark of the Beast? If it were to happen today could you identify it? If you could identify it what good would it do? Would the knowledge of the Mark make a believer out of an atheist? I think it all comes down to faith. Some people are supposed to see while others are not, no matter what proof is given. So what is the main purpose for studying prophecy and looking for the Mark of the Beast? I believe that purpose is to show who God really is and expose a false religion. Islam is that false religion. It has drawn one third of the world’s population to a false God and is ready to destroy the world in defense of it. There are other false religions in the world but none as violent as Islam. Islam is at war with all peoples; Jews, Christians, Hindus, Atheists, you name it, and even other Muslims.
This letter was born out of a question by an astute reader. It was very thought provoking and led me to another answer I was looking for. Its timing couldn’t have been better. As it is with most knowledge, a question has to be asked before an answer can be found. So here is the question.
Could you explain how the dipping of fingers into ink when voting is consistent with the mark of the beast? It seems to me that people are pressured into getting the mark of the beast in revelations because without it they can't get the necessities of life.
This question is in regards to my belief that the Mark of the Beast was given to the Palestinian people during their Presidential Election on January 9, 2005. This Mark was applied to their right thumb and prevented an individual from double voting. It was supposed to last for about 48 hours. On the surface it would seem that a mark on the right hand with indelible ink is nothing more than its purpose, to prevent double voting. On the other hand, what if you just voted for the beast and were unaware of it. The mark of the beast can be three things: his mark, his number or his Name. Christianity likes to blend two of these ideas together and say that the Mark is the number 666 inscribed. This is just one example there are many others.
Did this mark directly cause the people to be able to buy and sell? The words in Revelation 13:16 provide a good clue. He caused all, both small and great, rich and poor, or free and bond to receive this mark. Why would someone who is great, rich and free need to get any sort of mark in order to buy anything? A person in high esteem with lots of money (maybe a government official) needs no permission to buy anything, he does as he pleases. The opposite of that is what gets my attention more. If a man is small, poor and in jail why would he need to get a mark? If he is in jail he would have relatively no need for money as he would be getting his food and shelter from his jailors. The short answer is that the mark was given to all even those in jail who voted in the Palestinian Presidential Elections. This mark identifies the second beast and was only indirectly involved in their ability to buy and sell.
The situation that caused a lack of funds in the PA government was due to the Election of Hamas as ruling party a year later. Since no western government was providing aid to the Palestinians it became apparent that the PA government would slide into anarchy and collapse. Therefore, a temporary mechanism was created by the international community to allow money to be given to essential PA institutions while bypassing the Hamas Government. All money going to these essential humanitarian institutions will be distributed through the office of the President, Mahmoud Abbas. Now, through the name of one man, the people are able to buy and sell namely because many will be receiving salaries. Now you have two items which identify the beast, a mark which was given when he was elected and his name which will allow funds to be given. There is only one other thing that can identify him and that is his number. That number is 666.
Gematria is the most common way scholars use to find his identity. A system that applies a number value to letters to see if an individuals name will come to the sum of 666. One guess is as good as another in this system and many people’s names add up to 666. Any answer would just be a guess and provide relatively little proof to back it up, therefore I never devoted much time to this theory.
In my search I was more concerned with how and why and when Mahmoud Abbas was going to bring about his peoples ability to buy and sell. That answer came with the election of Hamas. Hamas was the reason why the PA had a lack of funds. The international community, through a temporary mechanism sponsored by the Quartet, was how they were going to get the funds. The last thing is the most surprising. The Quartet (US, UN, EU and Russia) agreed on this international mechanism to fund the PA on June 16, 2006 on a Friday. This happened on the sixth day of the week in the sixth month on the sixteenth day in the year 2006. It seems the event I was looking for happened on a 666 day, one of only three in the whole year. I think most people were more concerned with June 6, 2006.
Remember, the mark of the beast can be three things: his mark, his number or his Name. All three of these items point to the second beast. They describe him as an adjective does a noun. It is how they are interpreted that either blinds us or lets us see. Therefore, what I have done is link the number 666 to his name instead of the number to the mark. It was a coincidence that this find ever happened. I wasn’t looking in this direction when it found me. I was following the money.
I would be remiss if I didn’t mention one more thing.
I usually don’t make too many predictions and only write about events after the fact, but here goes. Since writing this letter and pondering the situation in Israel, I have thought of another possibility for the Mark. Any referendum held by the PA that advances policy allowing the international community to provide international aid to the PA would qualify. It would qualify as long as a Mark is applied to the hands or forehead and is given to all Palestinians just as mentioned in my remarks on Revelation 13:16.
In summary, Jesus is Lord and he is coming soon.
The Watchman of Ephraim Hosea 9:8
For more information on this topic please read “Image of Mahmoud Abbas” and Ephraem.com
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 6/30/2006 5:30:20 AM
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Isn't this a repeat of your earlier thread?
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 7/1/2006 6:17:34 AM
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Have you considered all of Man's Religions are False Religions. Jesus didnt' teach religion. Jesus taught a a Spiritual Kingdom that is not of the world of man, nor worldly things. Worldly things can included mans' worldly political philosophies, religious philosophies, business philosophies, educational philosophies, and philosophies in general.
Those are all worldly things. The scriptures state, be not of the philosophies of men. I had a friend prattle on about this philosophy, Winners-losers, leaders-followers-positive and negative people. This is not only a philosophy of positive and negative dualism but a philosophy of judgment of one people upon another people based upon materialistic wealth and worldly power.
I said to him Jesus said the end was going to be horrible does that mean Jesus was a negative person. He didn't want to go there with that thought. The truth is neither Positive or Negative. The truth is merely the truth and that is all the truth ever is no matter how men try to spin the truth for themselves to fit themselves.
Who knows, maybe even the worldly political philosophies people belong to are nothing more than lies, and controlled by lying men from behind the scenes most people don't have any idea about except those who really study? The Scriptures says they will be Worshipping after the Beast and the Image of the Beast.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 7/10/2006 3:59:40 PM
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ORIGINAL: ccoppenbarger
Isn't this a repeat of your earlier thread?
Christ's teaching on the subject of His return consists of three propositions:
1. That He will certainly return
2. That we cannot possibly find out when
3. And that therefore we must always be ready for Him
--C.S. Lewis
Don't you think seeing prophecy fulfilled would strengthen a Christians faith? Furthermore, what about a non-Christian? If you could show what Jesus said was actually happening wouldn't you? It sounds like the parable of Master's money. You have taken your quarter and buried it. Waiting for the Master to show so he can receive what is his. Shouldn't that quarter earn some interest? Once again, If you can show anyone Christian or non-Christian the words of Jesus coming to pass then why wouldn't you? It may fall on fallow ground but then again it might grow into a forest. Your philosophy is useless in my eyes. Ephraim
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 7/11/2006 5:59:53 AM
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Most of the words of Jesus have come to pass already. Some still have not (Matt 24:14), but the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple did. These are some pretty harsh words here. All I have done is disagreed with your interpretations that Abbas is the anti-Christ.
My point in my sig. is that we must be watching and waiting as the Kingdom parables in Matthew tell us to do. We are to exhibit the fruit of the Spirit (Gal. 5) as Christians to the world so that they may see Christ in us and they can join us in being ready. Being ready means exhibiting the fruit as Christians should and following the commands of Jesus. It's not making sure every prophecy of the Bible is fulfilled before our eyes. I'm not even sure we're supposed to be watching for the man of sin. We only know that if someone tells us the day of the Lord has happened, we will know that it has not because the man of sin has not appeared.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 10/14/2006 8:58:49 PM
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Just passing through and wanted to say hi.
Events of September 1, 2006.
The international mechanism that was
set up on June 16, 2006 has begun to compensate Palestinian workers.
Through this aid fund, set up by the EU and the World Bank, 625,000 Palestinians will be paid $347 dollars each .
This fund bypasses the Hamas led government due to their unwillingness to conform to the image of Mahmoud
Abbas. All funds
established under this aid fund go through the office of Mahmoud Abbas. Through the name of one man, under a
plan established on June 16, 2006, and
brought about by a mark on the right hand on election day, Palestinians are now being empowered to buy and sell. WOEphraim
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 10/14/2006 9:18:11 PM
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This article appeared in the Jerusalem Post. Nothing has been edited.
Oct. 11, 2006 15:36 | Updated Oct. 11, 2006 15:40
EU aid to PA expands to $816 million
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
The European Union said Wednesday it was giving $816 million in aid to benefit 160,000 Palestinian families this year, expanding the funding program that bypasses the Hamas-led government.
European experts agreed to boost the international aid program overseen by the World Bank to cover 60,000 more families in the Palestinian territories from the 100,000 families now receiving help under the program, EU spokeswoman Emma Udwin said.
The fund offers a $339 monthly allowance to poorer Palestinian families, pensioners and civic workers, whose paychecks disappeared when international donors halted direct aid payments after the militant Hamas group won Palestinian elections.
"We are talking about quite a large amount of money," Udwin said. "Despite direct aid to the Palestinian Authority having been suspended .... the EU's contribution remains high, higher than in an average year."
The experts also backed a decision by top international donors to extend the funding program until the end of the year, she said.
The European Commission has given $414 million this year to the program, above its average yearly aid of $314 million for the Palestinians. The rest of the program funds were coming from some of the 25 EU member countries, the United States and others.
The Commission said last month it had started to pay social allowances to 40,000 Palestinian families, coming on top of spending for 11,500 health workers who are no longer paid and pensioners.
Regular welfare payments and aid to the Palestinian Authority stopped in February, as international donors demanded the Hamas-led government renounce violence and recognize Israel.
The special funding program was set up in June to direct funds to three key areas - support for health services, utilities and social allowances - while bypassing the Hamas-led government's coffers.
The Quartet group of Mideast peacemakers - the United States, the EU, Russia and the United Nations - agreed last month to expand the scope of the program.
The program has delivered more than 2 million liters (500,000 gallons) of fuel to supply power for hospitals and water in the Gaza Strip.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 10/15/2006 9:11:05 PM
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Im very interested in what you wrote. The only thing I totally disagree with is mystery of the mark although I do believe in mystery of the beast at present. I think the mark will be obvious I dont think anyone will unknowingly recieve it. I dont believe the Lord will do that, Billions of peoples souls will be on the line. He left us everything to know about the mark and not to recieve it under any circumstances. The antichrist will be in power when this happens. The whole world not just one country will be under his sway.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 10/16/2006 3:18:59 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Ephraim
Just passing through and wanted to say hi.
Events of September 1, 2006.
The international mechanism that was
set up on June 16, 2006 has begun to
compensate Palestinian workers.
Through this aid fund, set up by the EU and the World Bank, 625,000 Palestinians will be paid $347 dollars each .
This fund bypasses the Hamas led government due to their unwillingness to conform to the
image of Mahmoud Abbas. All funds
established under this aid fund go through the office of Mahmoud Abbas. Through the name of one man, under a
plan established on June 16, 2006, and
brought about by a mark on the right hand on election day, Palestinians are now being empowered to buy and sell. WOEphraim
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 10/16/2006 6:13:26 AM
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I agree Judah...I believe the Bible makes it clear that to take the mark will be
a clear choice to renounce Jesus as the Christ, The Son of God. and choose
to follow the anti christ...( I am at work and do not have my bible so I can not
provide an exact ref)
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 10/16/2006 4:20:54 PM
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Scripture verses.After they see he is healed from his deadly wound they will make a image of him at the request of the false prophet. The WHOLE world will worship him EXCEPT those whos names are written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundations of the world. AND THEN HE CAUSETH ALL to recieve his mark. See Rev.13:16 also the 13th chapter to recieve all that is written there.And I pray we continue to watch and ask God for wisdom.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 10/21/2006 12:25:01 AM
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It amazes me that so many are under the impression that Israel must first regather and then build a temple. Then shall the Anti-Christ come and begin a terrible time for man, but not before rapturing the church.
Here's my question. Are you folks so blind that you are not even paying attention to the true enemy who's been cutting people's head off? And still cutting people head off? Have you forgotten September 11th, Kobart Towers, USS cole, the first World Trade Center attack? And how many more did I miss?
Have you forgotten the hundreds who lost their heads? And have you've heard of the Church Fathers in Iraq and Russia who are loosing their heads because of what the Pope said? Are you turning a blind eye towards the Churches in Russia which have been destroyed (150 this past year) and this on video?
Am I missing something here? Is the dispensational theory that important that you have to neglect the many Christians who have lost their lives by an enemy who's attacked the church since the 10th century? And quite frankly, who's numbers are growing to an alarming rate? I don't get it....I just don't get it.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 10/22/2006 6:00:06 PM
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I see. I pray for our brothers and know about the enemies of Christ its only a matter of time before they will be here and or be able to do whats alredy in their hearts to do to Christs followers. And Ive said it before it may be worse for us. I just pray we stay strong under the pressure if we are still here.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 10/22/2006 7:06:45 PM
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I was told the very same thing this morning, and drove home nearly in tears. We spoke of the Church Bishop in Iraq who was there to visit another member, and he was kidnapped. The horrific way is how they did it. They cut his legs off, and his arms, while he was alive, burned him with cigarettes, shot him in the chest, and then called his wife up on a cell phone demanding a rather large ransom. His wife heard her husband screaming on the phone. She went to the Church to raise the money, and the next morning, they found his body in the following fashion.
Corpse was laid on the ground, with head cut off laying on his chest. The arms and legs were circled around his head in a satanic fashion.
So sad! And these terrorists actually believe they'll go to heaven for their horror. My heart is still shaking from this, as it did with the Nicolus Berg video.
Here's the sad part! What the Pope said angered the Muslims. Yet what he said was true. They got mad because he said they kill to spread their religion. So now they (muslims) want to kill us for what he said!!!!!!!!
Can't win for losing with these evil people. God have mercy on them.....if possible.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 1/17/2007 4:19:33 PM
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Whenever someone reads "The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas" the same questions always arise.
I thought I would post my response to one of them.
What is the beasts mortal head wound that is healed?
Once it is understood that heads are nations this parable can be answered.
In Revelation 17:9 it says that seven heads are seven mountains.
This is a partial answer to Rev.13:1.
It must be taken one step further in order to understand it.
Mountains in scripture have been used to describe nations in various verses.
So if you follow it to its conclusion, seven heads are seven mountains
and seven mountains are seven nations.
"And I saw one of his heads, as it were wounded to death:and his deadly
wound was healed:and all the world wondered after the beast. Rev13:3
The land that is being given back to the Palestinians is the head or nation
which was wounded. It was completely occupied by Israel. Once the Oslo
Accords were implemented it was given back to their control.
Therefore the wound is healed. In other words, the nation that was taken
in war is now being returned to the Palestinians and the beasts wound is
being healed.
The thing that needs to be understood is that sometimes parables are
interpreted right after they are stated, while other times they are left
for you to figure out.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 2/7/2007 4:40:32 PM
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The final provocation has been set up. Have you seen it or are you still blind?
I'm going to keep talking while nobody is listening and see how long it takes
for everyone to see. It won't be long now. If you need to make amends
do it now. If you have a quarter that is the Lord's spend it. When your
quarter earns the Lord's interest you will multiply your treasures in heaven.
Just for clarity I am not speaking of real money. It is just a good deed no
matter how small. The two edged sword is about claim what is his.
This is a warning to watch. It is coming soon. We who have made agreement
with the Lord will soon see him. Those who have not will soon see their Lord.
I will not be saying anymore concerning this. I thank this forum and its
moderators for allowing me the time. This is my final post. Thanx
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 2/7/2007 8:27:13 PM
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I like the screen name you have..but the post isn't my favorite..!
I hope I don't have to answer for it..!
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 2/7/2007 10:38:51 PM
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The mark of the beast is not a physical mark. Scripture tells us there will be a mark IN the forehead or on the hand. All this means is that you either have the teachings of man in your mind, as opposed to the scripture, or your hands will do the work of man as opposed to the wok of God. Six is the number of mankind. Everything associate with man is represented by the number six. Man was created on the sixth day, man works six days, etc.....For those of you who think 666 is a physical mark, may I recommend you stop watching the "Left Behind" movies, and start reading and understanding scripture.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 7/3/2007 4:24:03 PM
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ORIGINAL: EPHRIAM777
I like the screen name you have..but the post isn't my favorite..!
I hope I don't have to answer for it..!
It seems you fear for your reputation EPHRAIM777, but no need to worry . The Lord knows the difference between you and I.
He is the only one that matters. Ephraim
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 7/3/2007 5:38:41 PM
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ORIGINAL: Ephraim
The final provocation has been set up. Have you seen it or are you still blind?
I'm going to keep talking while nobody is listening and see how long it takes
for everyone to see. It won't be long now. If you need to make amends
do it now. If you have a quarter that is the Lord's spend it. When your
quarter earns the Lord's interest you will multiply your treasures in heaven.
Just for clarity I am not speaking of real money. It is just a good deed no
matter how small. The two edged sword is about claim what is his.
This is a warning to watch. It is coming soon. We who have made agreement
with the Lord will soon see him. Those who have not will soon see their Lord.
I will not be saying anymore concerning this. I thank this forum and its
moderators for allowing me the time. This is my final post. Thanx
Watchman of Ephraim - WOEphraim - Ephraim - Ephraim65
Ephraem - Hosea 9:8
No, I don't believe I am blind. and...I, for one, am, listening.
I do not understand all that you speak of but the Lord has told me time is extremely short!!!
so, I agree... get ready!!! ~Let him who has ears to hear, hear~...
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 7/5/2007 12:14:27 PM
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ORIGINAL: Ephraim
Gematria is the most common way scholars use to find his identity.
Gematria is total baloney. Based on the hebrew use of letters as numbers, it became popular with rabbis in the middle ages when they had nothing useful to do. Lets face facts. there is no anti-christ because revelation could not be about our universe as the earth is not flat, the sky is not a dome that can be ripped, stars can't fall to the earth, and the new jerusalem [1500 miles on a side cube] could not fly.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 7/20/2007 4:48:35 PM
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A man asked me recently how I arrived at the conclusion that
Mahmoud Abbas was the 2nd Beast of Revelation 13. I summarized if for
him in these few short paragraphs.
This conclusion is based on the events that started with the handshake
between Arafat and Rabin in 1993. It was a slow evolving process and is
the false peace spoken of in the Bible. The questions that have to be
answered concerning Revelation 13 are: why, who and how.
Why do the people in question need the ability to buy and sell? Is it
because they refuse to worship a man or is it because they don't have
resources? It is much easier to see why people need when they have
nothing, as opposed to those that have and are not allowed to spend.
Who is going to provide this money to those in question? Mahmoud Abbas.
Through the name of one man funds will be allocated to the people from a
program instituted on June 16, 2006. His number is 666.
How are those people going to get the money? Through a program called
the Temporary international mechanism that bypassed the Hamas controlled
Palestinian Authority. This program was completed and agreed to on
June 16, 2006 on a Friday. It allowed funds to get to the PA only through
Abbas.
Lastly, when he was elected, all people voting either for or against him
recieved a mark in their right hands with indelible ink. This mark was
supposed to last for two days and prevent double voting. Three items point
to the Beast of Revelation 13: his mark, his number and his name.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 7/20/2007 5:15:14 PM
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Um, lots of people in foreign countries receive marks on their hands when they go to vote. That argument is void.
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 7/20/2007 5:38:51 PM
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Um, lots of people in foreign countries receive marks on their hands when they go to vote. That argument is void.
I'm not speaking of just any vote. One specific election is all I have
mentioned. The election that made Mahmoud Abbas President of the
Palestinian Authority in January of 2005.
I don't follow your logic. WOEphraim
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RE: The Mark of Mahmoud Abbas - 7/21/2007 6:13:02 AM
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Are you folks so blind that you are not even paying attention to the true enemy who's been cutting people's head off? Okay, first off, no I'm not... second of all, I'm not a fan of anyone (or more inclined to listen to someone) who calls me blind. I reserve that priveledge for Jesus, and people who are actually correct in their judgement. quote:
Have you seen it or are you still blind? Same as above...
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I'm going to keep talking while nobody is listening and see how long it takes
for everyone to see Okay, I understand your frustration, however, I listened, I saw, and I noted that it is nothing I haven't heard before... and nothing even close to being more convincing. The real problem with this theory of the mark of the beast is that people could still be involved in commerce without this mark. Not to mention that the Mark of the Beast, when described in the Bible anyway, is without geographical boundary. (a la, "causes all who worship the beast to recieve a mark..."). Other problems, first off, Mahmoud Abbas is not worshipped by anyone... and the Antichrist who dispenses the a mark will be something a religious figure, and not just a political.
FACT: The Mark of the Beast will be highly Satanic Note for yourself that when the mark is mentioned, the phrase "worshipping his image" is usually not far behind... this would indicate that recieving the mark is somehow tied to idol worship.
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I think it all comes down to faith. Some people are supposed to see while others are not, no matter what proof is given. This is a very convenient statement. Basically it means that any time someone disagrees with you, you can just say that they either don't have "enough" faith or the "right kind" of faith. Basically, what it says to me is that you are 100% convinced that you are right and will hear nothing else... which usually means you are wrong. At least the church councils gave a heretic consideration before panning them.
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Islam is that false religion. I tend to doubt that it is THE religion we are supposed to be worried about in the book of Revelation(No idol worship allowed). True enough, Islam has made a martyr out of many a Christian in this world... but Islam makes no attempt at assimilating other religions into their way of life, and doesn't even smile at unifying the world. Basically, Islam is a spiritualized version of the Nazi ideal in WWII.quote:
It has drawn one third of the world’s population actually, that is an overstatement of Islam's power. Most recent numbers have put about 1.3 billion Muslims in a world of 7-8 billion people... which is less than a quarter. Not that that is insignificant, but it is not as far gone as you might think. quote:
On the other hand, what if you just voted for the beast and were unaware of it. Very hypothetical question, my sir... and hypotheticals are dangerous territory when talking about doctrine. Just a thought. And for whatever its worth, I don't think the "beast" will be voted into office. quote:
Christianity likes to blend two of these ideas together and say that the Mark is the number 666 inscribed. Incorrect... some people think that. It is hardly a "religion-wide" (to pardon the expression) thing. Now, St. John does say that the number of the beast (the 666) is in fact the number of a man... nobody really has any clarity on what that actually means, though. quote:
Why would someone who is great, rich and free need to get any sort of mark in order to buy anything? Simple enough, when a person controls society, they make the rules... there were a lot of wealthy Jews in Germany, and they still ended up in Auschwitz. quote:
A person in high esteem with lots of money (maybe a government official) needs no permission to buy anything, he does as he pleases. Not true... even Paris Hilton went to jail. Not that she spent much time there, or even got treated that roughly, but she went just the same. Take a look at Bill Clinton... the President of the Untied States and he got impeached by Congress. Just because someone is rich, they aren't above the law... unless the society is corrupted completely. quote:
Gematria is the most common way scholars use to find his identity Actually, Gematria has been largely discredited by a number of scholars for the reasons you provided... any one guess is a good as the next.quote:
This happened on the sixth day of the week in the sixth month on the sixteenth day in the year 2006. It seems the event I was looking for happened on a 666 day, one of only three in the whole year. Problem... the actual date would then be 6/16/2006 or 6/16/06... that "one" in there kind of throws the theory. Just like not everything that happened on 7/7/07 was a heavenly thing, not everything that happens on a day with three 6's in it is necessarily evil.quote:
All three of these items point to the second beast Other problem, the second beast is actually the False Prophet, and not the antichrist... quote:
It is how they are interpreted that either blinds us or lets us see. Translation: how we read the text and how willing we are to break with orthodoxy means we either agree with you or don't... fair enough. A real question though, okay, so this is happening to the Palestinians... What about the other 99.8% of the earth's population?
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In summary, Jesus is Lord and he is coming soon. I must admit, this is the only line in your post I can agree with wholeheartedly... so WOOHOO!
Adam
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I am hyena, Jesus is my Mufasa...
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