Where do creatures like Archeopterex fit in with Young Earth creationism?
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Where do creatures like Archeopterex fit in with Young ... - 7/7/2008 4:06:23 PM
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StephenJ
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Has anyone in the Young Earth group actually taken a shot at what they perceive this animal to be since I assume they wouldn't consider it to be a transitional animal?
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RE: Where do creatures like Archeopterex fit in with Yo... - 7/7/2008 4:18:23 PM
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PromiseLander
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Well, the major hurdle that evolutionists must cross is that just because an animal has similar features to two other animals, doesn't mean they're a transitional species.
Everyone begins with preconceived notions - the evolutionists begin with the idea that there MUST be transitional species, so they attach that tag to what they may claim as the most probable candidate, and creationists begin with the notion that God's word does not lie - and God's Word tells us that there was a special creation for everything that exists.
This animal is exactly that - an animal created by God, for the glory of God. Since there is no name plate or owner's manual attached to the animal's backside, debates will rage for years to come as to it's true nature, but the real question is not how this animal fits into your global view, but does your global view chime with what God teaches? If not, are there larger implications at stake?
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RE: Where do creatures like Archeopterex fit in with Yo... - 7/7/2008 5:17:34 PM
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Well, the major hurdle that evolutionists must cross is that just because an animal has similar features to two other animals, doesn't mean they're a transitional species.
Then what in the world should a transitional species look like?
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Everyone begins with preconceived notions - the evolutionists begin with the idea that there MUST be transitional species, so they attach that tag to what they may claim as the most probable candidate,
Wrong. The theory of evolution predicts which transitionals one should see AND which transitionals one should NOT see. You should never see a transitional between birds and mammals, and no such transitional exists. However, we do see dinosaurs with avian features and birds with dinosaurian features. In fact, the discovery of several transitionials in the last 15 years has blurred the line between bird and dinosaur to the point that birds are now considered to be dinosaurs.
So why don't we see a fossil with a mixture of mammalian and avian features if creationism is true?
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Since there is no name plate or owner's manual attached to the animal's backside, debates will rage for years to come as to it's true nature,
There is no debate. Archie has both dinosaurian and avian features which makes it transitional by definition.
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RE: Where do creatures like Archeopterex fit in with Yo... - 7/7/2008 5:21:49 PM
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Everyone begins with preconceived notions - the evolutionists begin with the idea that there MUST be transitional species, so they attach that tag to what they may claim as the most probable candidate,
To the contrary, palaeontologists and biologists already have lists of features that describe and define particular groupings of animals, such as dinosaurs or birds. Archaeopteryx isn't thrust willy-nilly into the role of transitional fossil in order to bolster a preconceived notion, rather it deserves that designation because of its intermediate features.
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