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Windows not booting / resetting battery works - 8/28/2008 6:08:23 PM
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ashburngirl
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Hi,
When I turn on my desktop pc, it gets hung up on "detecting IDE drives"...it never boots up Windows. I read about a trick that if you take out the battery inside for 30 seconds and replace it, it boots Windows.
This has been working, however it is a pain to reset the battery every day.
What could be causing the initial problem and why would removing / resetting battery fix it temporarily?
(I know nothing about computers, don't have money to take it to get fixed. I did nothing to system before this problem started!)
Any suggestions / help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks.
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RE: Windows not booting / resetting battery works - 8/28/2008 6:23:07 PM
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LCannon
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A bad 'floppy'(3 1/2")drive can cause all kinds of boot problems and/or system instability problems.
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RE: Windows not booting / resetting battery works - 8/28/2008 7:59:38 PM
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MWD
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How old is this system?
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RE: Windows not booting / resetting battery works - 8/29/2008 12:41:40 PM
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ashburngirl
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about 5 years old
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RE: Windows not booting / resetting battery works - 8/29/2008 9:43:52 PM
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MWD
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Kind of early for the battery to be croaking, but you could try replacing it. Give the contacts and the battery top & bottom a good cleaning with isopropyl (not rubbing) alcohol. You could also try reseating the BIOS chip if it's in a socket. If you don't know which one it is, check for a rectangular chip with a couple dozen pins and the BIOS manufacturer stamped on it. The BIOS manufacturer will show up in the 1st screen on power-up, and that should clue you what to look for.
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RE: Windows not booting / resetting battery works - 9/4/2008 11:26:17 AM
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LoyalGypsy
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quote:
ORIGINAL: ashburngirl
Hi,
When I turn on my desktop pc, it gets hung up on "detecting IDE drives"...it never boots up Windows. I read about a trick that if you take out the battery inside for 30 seconds and replace it, it boots Windows.
This has been working, however it is a pain to reset the battery every day.
What could be causing the initial problem and why would removing / resetting battery fix it temporarily?
(I know nothing about computers, don't have money to take it to get fixed. I did nothing to system before this problem started!)
Any suggestions / help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks.
Is the battery dead?
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RE: Windows not booting / resetting battery works - 9/7/2008 1:55:46 AM
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Aphobos
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The CMOS battery supplies just enough power so that your customized BIOS settings aren't lost when you unplug your system. By removing it for 30 seconds, any BIOS customizations would be lost.
If temporarily removing the battery allows you to boot into Windows, perhaps going into BIOS and restoring factory default settings would work also. It's not a permanent solution, but it may keep you from having to open the case and fiddle with the battery.
I'm not sure what would be causing the problem. BIOS would store the information about installed IDE devices. I wouldn't suspect a bad IDE cable, given that removing/replacing the battery seems to help. Perhaps the battery is going bad, and only some of your customized BIOS settings are getting corrupted or lost.
Replacing the battery is a low-cost troubleshooting step. Just go into RadioShack and ask for a CR2032. Probably won't cost more than a couple dollars. That may just fix the problem. If not, you can rule it out and move on with the diagnosis.
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RE: Windows not booting / resetting battery works - 9/7/2008 9:07:30 AM
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LoyalGypsy
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Aphobos
The CMOS battery supplies just enough power so that your customized BIOS settings aren't lost when you unplug your system. By removing it for 30 seconds, any BIOS customizations would be lost.
If temporarily removing the battery allows you to boot into Windows, perhaps going into BIOS and restoring factory default settings would work also. It's not a permanent solution, but it may keep you from having to open the case and fiddle with the battery.
I'm not sure what would be causing the problem. BIOS would store the information about installed IDE devices. I wouldn't suspect a bad IDE cable, given that removing/replacing the battery seems to help. Perhaps the battery is going bad, and only some of your customized BIOS settings are getting corrupted or lost.
Replacing the battery is a low-cost troubleshooting step. Just go into RadioShack and ask for a CR2032. Probably won't cost more than a couple dollars. That may just fix the problem. If not, you can rule it out and move on with the diagnosis.
~Aphobos
Greetings,
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The CMOS battery supplies just enough power so that your customized BIOS settings aren't lost when you unplug your system. By removing it for 30 seconds, any BIOS customizations would be lost.
That is true,
I had just encountered an issue with a Dell GX270 CMOS battery terminal on the Motherboard,
I had received word that a local company who were tossing away about 5 Dell GX270s,
So I gather them up and managed to piece together 3 working units but... 1 of the other 2 was making me crazy..  with issues similar to the posters descriptions....
It seems 1 of the 3 soldered connections of the battery place holder separated from the Motherboard ....and by my constantly pulling out the battery and re-seating it, which was why (as the lord revealed)....it was failing to begin with  ...eventually it broke off all together
I tried to solder it back to the motherboard but the connectors were so thin that the eventually connectors fell off battery casing altogether, so I just tossed the board in the trash and kept the parts for the other ones.
I guess what I learned form this is....
XP can be installed and booted on a defaulted BIOS... as long as there are no changes made to the date and time ...and turn off automatic updates.
BUT
it seems that the battery holder itself is also a part of a circuit (sensed) and will cause many problems if it is broken or separates from the motherboard during POST
.... and with XP... if there is difference in the CMOS date and time as compared to the date and time of the installation of XP ...the OS will not boot up.
Just a thought
LG
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