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Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question)


Yes I did and currently use NFP
  26% (34)
No I did not and currently use NFP
  3% (5)
I do currently and am considering NFP
  10% (14)
I do not currently and am considering NFP
  31% (40)
I do currently and am NOT considering NFP
  3% (4)
I do not currently and am NOT considering NFP
  24% (31)


Total Votes : 128
(last vote on : 10/5/2008 4:07:19 PM)
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solo_soprano22 -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (5/28/2008 6:03:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FoxInSox

Hi Manda!


To everyone...one of the descriptors for vaginal sensation is "cold."

How is something attached to my 98.6 degree body supposed to be cold?

And, that question is two-folded. One, to share with everyone that I think the descriptor of "cold" doesn't make any sense [8D]. And also to find out what it DOES mean.

Thanks!


Don't ask me why I read this thread sometimes. [;)]

I think they are asking about a key word--sensation, not reality. You can have a sensation of cold...or just about anything, without there actually being a drop or change in temperature.




FoxInSox -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (5/28/2008 8:00:44 PM)

Oh, I'm not worried. Just trying to figure it all out. It's like a big puzzle to me.




Royal.Fortress -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (5/28/2008 10:49:17 PM)

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Oh, I'm not worried.


Okay, good!! It sounded like you were concerned, but as long as you're just really interested in how it's all working, than yay! [:)]




FoxInSox -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (5/29/2008 12:46:28 AM)

Yeah, I just have this compulsive need to understand *everything* that I find interesting. Especially right now, since I'm on a semester break, and have lots of brain space to think.

I'm also so impatient when I get excited about something. I just do NOT want to take the time it takes for things that happen slowly. Like recovery. Or learning the cycle pattern. I'm learning, though, that time does not really change much according to my own demands.




Royal.Fortress -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (5/29/2008 11:48:04 AM)

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time does not really change much according to my own demands.


lol - yeah, not so much!!!! I hear ya, though! There was many a cycle when I was charting where I'd be trying to analyze it waaaaay before it was reasonable to think I could get any info out of it. I was always hoping that the method would fail and I'd get pregnant earlier than we decided to try ([8|][:)]), so I'd always be checking my charts against my previous ones looking to see if they were triphasic, or checking my LP length, or, or, or.

Charting really is one of the most fascinating things I've ever learned. I'd love to teach it to other women some day!




FoxInSox -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (5/29/2008 2:03:55 PM)

It seriously is fascinating. I wish so much that my friend and sister who struggled so much with infertility were more open to charting or learning about it. They are like, "We use OPK, and that's good enough." I see their point, and I really think I just want a IRL friend to talk to about this stuff :)




Royal.Fortress -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (5/29/2008 2:09:25 PM)

LOL - you've got us, though!!! [8D]

I know what you mean. After reading on here, I decided to try charting, and I was the ONLY PERSON I knew IRL who did it. I learned everything I know from TCOYF and The Art of NFP and the ladies on this here board. AFTER I became proficient, I started telling people about it and a bunch of them started charting, too.




christsstar -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (5/29/2008 2:51:04 PM)

I got one IRL friend to chart. I'm not sure if she used it or not, but she did try it. She's now pregnant. I think she might've used it to get pregnant too, but I could be wrong.




uponeagleswings -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (5/29/2008 10:24:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FoxInSox

Yeah, I just have this compulsive need to understand *everything* that I find interesting.


LOL, I'm like that too. If people ask me what I"m interested in, the list is a mile long and changes frequently. I tend to pick up and drop hobbies rapidly too.

I too found charting to be fascinating. Like all of that biochemistry was going on right under my nose! [8D] Makes me want to tell all of my friends who are on the pill that they don't have to be (not in a judgmental way though, I promise).




FoxInSox -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (6/4/2008 12:31:54 AM)

Hmmm...I have a software/charting question.

Some pre-req info:

First, I've always had alot of CF. I even had enough to leave spots on my underwear a full three years before my period arrived (12, 15 respectively). Thank goodness for pantiliners :).

Second, I didn't temp or use any OPK's, so I don't know when I o'ed.

Third, during all the times discussed, Vaginal Sensation seemed either wet/moist or lubricative.

After my period, I had a few days of creamy/lotiony CF. S/W says that I am infertile. This makes sense because it's in between AF and O.

Then, I had one day of EWCF and (CD10), and the s/w said fertile. Cool! Ovulation is coming, right?

From CD11 to CD14, CF was watery. VERY watery, like I thought it might drip. S/W still says fertile. Makes sense, I think. Weschler puts EW and watery in the same category. I'm assuming that somewhere in these days I probably O'ed.

Then, from CD15 to CD18, CF was creamy/lotiony. Software still says fertile. I don't understand why, but figure that creamy/lotiony is close enough to watery, that it counts.

But then, CD19 to CD23, CF is sticky/tacky. For CD19 and CD20, S/W says fertile. but for CD21-CD23, it says infertile. Why the difference?

So...here's my questions: Why does the software say creamy/lotiony is fertile? More perplexing, why are CD19 and CD20, with sticky/tacky CF fertile, but CD20-21 are infertile?

Also, when I have something of a pattern in the S/W, will it clue into the fact that I'm *never* dry?

Or, maybe, ... maybe mostly having creamy/lotiony or sticky/tacky (except for O and AF) just means I have very sperm friendly girl-parts. [sm=thumbsup.gif]

Thanks!

(oh, and I'm not worried, just curious[:)])

~Michelle




myka -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (6/4/2008 2:45:01 PM)

There is a setting in your s/w that allows you to set your basic infertile pattern to what yours is. I think that the default is sticky/tacky. As far as the cd 19 and 20 being fertile, you are considered fertile for a couple of days after ovulation (the egg lives for 24 hours and there is a possiblity of a second ovulation within 24 hours of the first one -- adding the two gives the 48 hours). If your fluid pattern does not change, the s/w indicates an infertile phase after 2 days of infertile pattern.




Royal.Fortress -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (6/4/2008 8:36:01 PM)

[sm=thumbsup.gif][sm=thumbsup.gif] What Myka said!




FoxInSox -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (6/4/2008 10:20:44 PM)

Oh, thats right! I forgot about the possility of a second egg.[:)]

Thanks for telling me about that setting. I'll try to find it :)




RepentanceIsRequired -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (7/16/2008 2:01:46 PM)

Do you check/record CM during your light flow days?

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I am having a horrible time charting everyday. I'll make a mental note that day of my findings, but I am not recording with my stickers and all.




christsstar -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (7/16/2008 2:56:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RepentanceIsRequired

Do you check/record CM during your light flow days?

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I am having a horrible time charting everyday. I'll make a mental note that day of my findings, but I am not recording with my stickers and all.



Yes, but mostly because I'm checking to see how much I'm flowing.

After doing this for 3 1/2 years now, I know my body's pattern pretty well. In the beginning, though, I was diligent to check my CM when my cup was mostly empty after a 12 hour period.




ta_mosquito -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (7/16/2008 5:38:27 PM)

quote:

Do you check/record CM during your light flow days?


No.

Once I'm past ovulation, I don't check anymore until after my period.




Royal.Fortress -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (7/31/2008 1:32:22 PM)

I'm the same as Tricia ... since I have 35-ish day cycles, I don't check until my period is gone ...




RepentanceIsRequired -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (8/6/2008 11:34:45 AM)

I am now finishing my second period post partum. I never noticed any fertile CF between these two flows. Would that mean I did not ovulate? I'm also wondering how long it takes to begin ovulating after birth. I know that can vary, but it has been about 6-8 weeks since I have stopped nursing.




peculiar_lady2 -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (8/6/2008 8:10:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RepentanceIsRequired

I am now finishing my second period post partum. I never noticed any fertile CF between these two flows. Would that mean I did not ovulate? I'm also wondering how long it takes to begin ovulating after birth. I know that can vary, but it has been about 6-8 weeks since I have stopped nursing.

if you are having regular periods and have not had any previous problems (like PCOS) that would indicate a fertility problem, then I would *assume* that you are ovulating and that maybe you missed the cm. Have you been temping?




RepentanceIsRequired -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (8/7/2008 1:00:14 PM)

No temping. Just checking cm and charting. I also have not been very good with checking like before I go to the bathroom or before I shower.




Mrs.Wifey -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (8/7/2008 3:15:42 PM)

If you aren't using a barrier, and also aren't checking your CF properly OR temping then I would consider pregnancy to be a pretty great possibility, so if you are really trying to avoid then I would start following the rules, lol.




christsstar -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (8/7/2008 3:23:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mrs.Wifey

If you aren't using a barrier, and also aren't checking your CF properly OR temping then I would consider pregnancy to be a pretty great possibility, so if you are really trying to avoid then I would start following the rules, lol.


Doest thou speak from experience??? [;)]




RepentanceIsRequired -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (8/7/2008 3:25:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mrs.Wifey

If you aren't using a barrier, and also aren't checking your CF properly OR temping then I would consider pregnancy to be a pretty great possibility, so if you are really trying to avoid then I would start following the rules, lol.


Naturally. When you're right, you're right. Does it matter that I am finishing up my period?




Mrs.Wifey -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (8/7/2008 5:16:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: christsstar

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mrs.Wifey

If you aren't using a barrier, and also aren't checking your CF properly OR temping then I would consider pregnancy to be a pretty great possibility, so if you are really trying to avoid then I would start following the rules, lol.


Doest thou speak from experience??? [;)]


Nope, not really. But it's that "use"(or lack thereof) that gives NFP/FAM such a bad reputation.




Royal.Fortress -> RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question) (8/8/2008 10:38:31 AM)

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never noticed any fertile CF between these two flows. Would that mean I did not ovulate? I'm also wondering how long it takes to begin ovulating after birth. I know that can vary, but it has been about 6-8 weeks since I have stopped nursing.


You can ovulate as early as 4 - 6 weeks after birth, and you only get a period if you've ovulated, so I'd say it's safe to say you're ovulating. (Yes, you can have anovulatory bleeding, but if you're having regular cycles, I'd say that's not the case). Like Ryanne said, you can *definitely* get pregnant - either start really watching your CF or use a back-up method until you can chart consistently ... that is, if you don't want to get pregnant.




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