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blessedhope -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (8/25/2005 10:59:53 AM)

Sorry, but I don't agree. The scirpture says "these will be the signs of a believer". It didn't say some believers, or just the believers of that day. It applies to all believers in Jesus regardless of time. Scripture says "Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever." He does not change. Go over to James and there is another verse:

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed"

I personally know of an instance where some girls in my church laid hands on a girl with a terrible case of poison ivy and it went away instantly. The girl who was healed was not a Christian and she was completely stunned. I believe the gifts are just as much for today as they were then. If that wasn't the case, noone today would be able to speak in tongues either, and I know many believers, including myself, who can speak in tongues also.



EStan -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (8/25/2005 12:47:30 PM)

ok, fair enough - we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. [:D]



blessedhope -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (8/25/2005 1:35:10 PM)

You're
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ok, fair enough - we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one
Your entitled to your own opinion, but I think those who don't believe that miracles or healings are for today are missing out on one of the benefits that they can receive as a believer. It is by Christ's redemption that we receive salvation that we can also receive healing. I believe the devil wants us to believe that we can't be healed today.



caur -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (8/25/2005 2:33:28 PM)

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever.

Before Abraham was, I AM.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. All things were created through Him and nothing that was created was created apart from Him.

Anyway remember this:

Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord!' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Mat 7:22 On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name?'
Mat 7:23 Then I will announce to them, 'I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!'

You might find this interesting:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4619733.stm



blessedhope -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (8/25/2005 3:49:57 PM)

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Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord!' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Mat 7:22 On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name?'
Mat 7:23 Then I will announce to them, 'I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!'

caur:
Just speaking for myself, I don't know Benny Hinn's heart and my argument is not over him, it is that I believe healing is for today, laying hands on the sick is for today, and that people can be healed and receive miracles today. I don't believe that it was just in the days of Jesus (while he was on earth) and in the days of the apostles. Christ's redemption made salvation possible as well as physical healing. That's why Jesus often said things like "you are made whole." "Whole" means complete restoration. Scripture says "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law." One of the curses that came from the fall of man was sickness and disease. The benefit of salvation wasn't canceled out, so why would healing be cancelled out after the days of Jesus + the apostles? Christ's redemption paid for it and the work was finished on the cross. Scripture says "by his stripes we are healed", and that does include physical healing, as all the physical healings in the bible testify to.



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kysunflower -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (10/14/2005 1:09:18 PM)

I saw him a long time ago in 700 Club (longs tory, don't watch that junk anymore), and he had been caught, adn was admitting to his ministry paying people to be healed and fall down. It was supose to be some kind of encouragement for people tor trust God and come forward.
If you have to fake the work of God, then your missing somethihng vital to the process,,,,,
GOD!



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Soxfan -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (10/17/2005 3:17:30 PM)

The sad thing is that it takes secular media outlets like NBC and MSNBC to expose Benny Hinn for the FRAUD that he is. Other then a few respected discerment ministries, most of the Christian community gives him a free pass. Even after all his false prophecies and whacked out doctrine!

Didn't he move his ministry from Florida to Texas because the state was sniffing around his finances? He had his followers send him 30 million for a "healing center" that God told him he needed to build. Guess what? He got the 30 million but never built the "healing center"



LindaIona -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (10/17/2005 3:28:10 PM)

I've seen his show a few times when I've been in a hotel on business travel. I just want to know who his tailor is.

Any man who is trying to single-handedly bring back the Nehru look HAS to be in error, theologically and sartorially.



Green19 -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (10/20/2005 2:41:48 AM)

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The sad thing is that it takes secular media outlets like NBC and MSNBC to expose Benny Hinn for the FRAUD that he is. Other then a few respected discerment ministries, most of the Christian community gives him a free pass. Even after all his false prophecies and whacked out doctrine!


Sir, you have just hit the nail on the head of the correct and nailed it squarely to the church door! [;)]



Soxfan -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (10/20/2005 7:49:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Green19

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The sad thing is that it takes secular media outlets like NBC and MSNBC to expose Benny Hinn for the FRAUD that he is. Other then a few respected discerment ministries, most of the Christian community gives him a free pass. Even after all his false prophecies and whacked out doctrine!


Sir, you have just hit the nail on the head of the correct and nailed it squarely to the church door! [;)]


I think the correct term we are seeing is "Apostasy"

Matthew 24:24: For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. [&o]



mikeman2 -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (10/20/2005 12:26:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: EStan

Judeslice - Amen, and Amen. I firmly believe that healing by touch ended with the Apostles, and that Benny Hinn has no more power to do so than I do. As for his worship of money - I will see if I can find a link to a news story within the past couple of months about a revival he was involved with in Africa, and how angry he was that his ministry LOST money during the campaign.

So you do not beleive in healing or only healing through touch? Either way it is healing if it is done in faith. If you do not beleive in healing then let me ask you this, how is receiving salvation different from receiving healing? Both come through faith. If you say healing and miracles were only done in the New Testament then you could also say salvation only came during that period as well. Problem is we don't like practising and growing in our faith. God has no limits or boundaries except the ones we impose on him. In fact Jesus could not heal everyone. When he returned to the place he grew up at they still saw Jesus as a boy and not a man and placed no faith in him. Therefore no miracles were done there by him. As far as Benny Hinn goes, I know very little about him and it is not my job to attack or defend him. I do know, however, we are not suppose to follow any one man except Christ. All others fall short and have flaws just as Benny does. This includes your own pastor. Whether or not he is the Lords is between him and God alone.



walterquez -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (11/1/2005 11:46:22 PM)

Doesn't he believe that each person of the Trinity is a trinity by themselves? In other words, there are nine of them?



Bro_Shane -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (11/2/2005 9:14:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: walterquez

Doesn't he believe that each person of the Trinity is a trinity by themselves? In other words, there are nine of them?


Who knows what he believes, at it changes to suit his current financial need.



shinelikestars -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (11/2/2005 11:08:51 AM)

I was flipping the channels 2 days ago & saw Hinn's program "This is Your Day" was on. One of his collegues was talking. Some of the things he said.

"If you are faithful today, tomorrow you can be without a house payment or car payment."

"What you need to do is sow a seed. You need to sow a SIGNIFICANT seed into this ministry".

"I know some of you have never given a seed of $1000 or $10,000, today can be the day."

"I know some of you don't have $1,000 in your pocket. But you can use that debit card. You can use that credit card. You used it to get into debt, so why not use it to get out of debt?"

Sadly, people then lined up to drop their "seeds" in the bucket.



P31W -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (11/3/2005 8:45:27 AM)

http://www.discernment.org/jesus.htm

walterquez,

This article touches on that teaching of Benny about the "tri-trinity" ?(9) or they don't really believe in the 'trinity" rather three differant gods?

Copy from article posted

Another glaring problem with this doctrine is that it effectively destroys the Trinity of God. All WOF teachers/followers with declare that they believe in One God in Three Persons. They say they believe in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, these Three comprise the One God. So far so good. How then do they explain that God the Son dies spiritually? Are there three "Spirits" within the godhead? I know Benny Hinn taught that God was actually nine parts (each member of the Trinity having a spirit, soul, and body), but the question before them is can one Person within the godhead die, become sin, and not effect the other aspects of deity? In their minds this question obviously does not pose a problem. Which leads me to the logical conclusion that those who teach and adhere to such doctrine are not Trinitarian but tri-theists and as such damnable heretics.



walkin2e -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (11/3/2005 10:31:16 AM)

Sadly there are many hurting and searching people in this world that are "grasping at straws"...anything to change their lives and circumstances...Benny Hinn is one of these straws...desperate people seeking a man to help them when only Jesus can...It is so heart wrenching to see the way some men and women are getting WEALTHY off of other people's miseries.

Lord, help us to discern the truth, and help those who are seeking for the way, the truth and the life.

Irvin



Soxfan -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (11/3/2005 12:01:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: walkin2e

Sadly there are many hurting and searching people in this world that are "grasping at straws"...anything to change their lives and circumstances...Benny Hinn is one of these straws...desperate people seeking a man to help them when only Jesus can...It is so heart wrenching to see the way some men and women are getting WEALTHY off of other people's miseries.

Lord, help us to discern the truth, and help those who are seeking for the way, the truth and the life.

Irvin


Matthew 24:24 - "For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect"



Georgiagirl -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (11/5/2005 6:45:11 PM)

Dear Benny Hinn and other "faith healers":
IF you are really doing God's work why aren't you going into the hospitals and nursing homes and heaing all the sick and dying people? Why aren't you going into all the poor countries and healing the multitudes of sick people? Why aren't you going to all the places where people are starving and miraculously make food appear to feed them?



EStan -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (11/7/2005 6:45:06 PM)

I think this sums up Benny fairly well:

For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ. (Galatians 1:10 ESV)



chagrin -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (2/15/2006 8:36:36 PM)

Ahh Benny Hinn, eh?

Well, since you opened the thread up...

I will say that I am a pretty smart guy, book and street. A Cancer survivor and recovering drug addict, I have lived on my own since I was 15. I made a living BS'ing the public in my past career for 12 years. I spent another 5 BS'ing the public in another arena, the finance industry. I have taken, and passed, many courses which study body language, sales techniques and facial expressions. I believe Benny Hinn is a liar and preys on the weak to pay for his hairpiece and suits, and I am quite sure, his comfortable living as well. His actions are disturbing and his assistants are surely to be shamed at some point in their life, here or after.

If one person truly finds God as a result of his lies, then what is Benny Hinn? I do not know and I struggle with this reasoning myself, but there it is.

Thank you for letting me post my thoughts here.



Lapidoth -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (2/17/2006 10:11:09 AM)

"Desparate people grabbing at straws, and BH is one of those straws."

I see this as one of the greatest dangers of WOF and people like Benny Hinn.
I have started a scrap book of all these "ministers" and their outrageous
claims and false teachings.

People continue to look up to these people for answers.
Even when they have been stripped of their belongings and respect, many
still continue to follow them as they profess, "In the name of God."
First of all the sin is against God. "Thou shalt not take my Name in vain."

But the weakened church world is primed to look up to a man (antichrist),
doesn't matter if you believe in a man or system, and will follow as sheep to
the slaughter.

As chagrin testifies, you don't even have to say, "in the name of God."
False hope is still viewed as hope to the destitute.

Just as our children on the most part won't follow the advice of experience of
their parents, christians caught up in this can't or won't follow the advice of
experience and discerning of other Christians who discern the scripture and
harold the warnings of WOF teachers and frauds. Some may be as deceived
as those they deceive, but God doesn't care. A deceiver is a deceiver.

The truth is coming out, it's up to us to take it or leave it.

Thanks for the article caur. ["four million dollars down the drain"] indeed.
Jesus gave everything for one soul, yet BH says four million dollars was a waste.
And of course, the blame is the lack of faith and effort on the local churches.
I guess that was Benny's money? How does that measure up to the stewardship
of the gifts and offerings of the people on welfare and fixed incomes?



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Bro_Shane -> RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn (2/17/2006 10:58:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TaylorsMom

Benny Hinn has an awesome healing gift from God. He may be what you guys call WOF (although I think it is just anyone one TV that is WOF) but I know someone who has travled with him. He has the gift of praying for the sick and them being healed.


Then why isn't there one recorded an verified case of a healing?

The man is an apostate, liar, and a lunatic.



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