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Israel in the News - 5/10/2007 3:55:41 PM
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/10/2007 4:03:27 PM
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Thanks! I was thinking about suggesting one. I suppose you post enough on it, one eventually gets created.
Palestinians deploy police force
The Palestinian government is to deployed a police force across Gaza as part of a new security plan to curb sectarian violence.
The force, formed by the Palestinain unity government, will initially carry out crime-fighting and traffic duties before addressing lawlessness in the area.
Officers from the rival Hamas and Fatah factions will wear the same uniform and spread out throughout the territory within 48 hours, an official said.
The deployment was ordered by Fatah's Mahmoud Abbas, the president, and Hamas' Ismail Haniya, the prime minister.
Some police were deployed overnight, but Nour Odeh, Al Jazeera's Gaza correspondent, said that Hani al-Qawasmi, the Palestinian interior minister who recently resigned, still wanted assurances.
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/10/2007 4:05:27 PM
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Israel plans E Jerusalem settlement
Israel plans to build 20,000 new homes in Arab East Jerusalem, prompting immediate condemnation from Palestinians who want the land for a future state.
The Israeli plan, announced on Thursday but is yet to be ratified by national authorities, envisages three separate Jewish neighbourhoods being set up on land annexed after the 1967 war.
Yehoshua Pollak, chairman of Jerusalem's planning and construction committee, said the housing was intended for young Israeli couples.
Saeb Erekat, Palestinian chief negotiator, condemned the plan, saying the Israeli government ought to choose between settlements and peace.
"We conveyed official messages to the international community to put pressure on the Israeli government to reverse this decision," he said.
Israel's settlements have not been recognised internationally and the UN human rights council has previously voted in support of their removal.
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/10/2007 4:07:13 PM
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Israel raids Jenin and Nablus
Al Jazeera has reported that about 30 Israeli military vehicles carried out a dawn raid on the southern Jenin town of Qabataya, injuring two Palestinians.
Israeli forces, on Thursday, stormed into people's houses in the town and detained a number of citizens.
In a seperate incident, Israeli forces raided al-Ain refugee camp in west Nablus and opened fire - injuring two Palestinians, including a pregnant woman.
And just so you know that I'm not just looking at Al Jazeera, here's one from the Jerusalem Post on the same incident.
Woman loses baby in Nablus firefight
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/10/2007 4:08:28 PM
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Last one for now...
U.S. to give assurances to ease funds to Palestinians
RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - The Bush administration plans to issue assurances within days that could ease the flow of funds to an account controlled by Palestinian Finance Minister Salam Fayyad, a U.S. official said on Thursday.
But it was unclear whether the assurances, expected to come in the form of letters to banks and donors, will include restrictions that would prevent Fayyad from using the funds to cover the expenses of the Hamas-led Palestinian Authority, Western diplomats and Israeli officials said.
Fayyad's plan hinges on Arab donors making good on pledges of financial assistance. Arab states have not fulfilled previous promises.
"Our banking regulations generally do not apply to the PLO (Palestine Liberation Organisation) account," said Micaela Schweitzer-Bluhm, public affairs officer at the U.S. consulate in Jerusalem. "We are working with Salam Fayyad to clarify how entities might contribute to this account."
She said the clarifications would be issued "in the next couple of days", but did not provide any details what they would entail.
Fayyad is counting on using the PLO account to receive $55 million that Arab League member states have promised to pay each month to cover about half the salaries of government employees.
Government workers have gone without full wages since Hamas Islamists came to power in March 2006. Western donors have cut off direct funds to the Palestinian government, demanding it recognize Israel, renounce violence and accept existing interim peace deals.
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/10/2007 4:14:24 PM
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Olmert: Israeli command below par in war
JERUSALEM - Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told an inquiry the army command did not perform well in last summer's war in Lebanon and acknowledged he gave short shrift to warnings troops weren't ready, but he insisted Israel had no option except to fight, according to testimony released Thursday.
Olmert's comments were made during hearings by a special commission that issued a report last week severely censuring the prime minister's wartime performance — an appraisal that triggered a wave of resignation calls and may yet cost him his political career.
The war started July 12 when Hezbollah guerrillas staged a cross-border raid in which three Israeli soldiers were killed and two were captured and taken into Lebanon. Israel launched a full-scale military campaign hours later.
Initially strong Israeli public support unraveled after the 34-day war failed to achieve Olmert's two declared aims — recovering the two soldiers and crushing Hezbollah, which bombarded northern Israel with nearly 4,000 rockets during the fighting.
In his testimony, Olmert made a pointed distinction between Israel's combat forces, which he praised as "exceptional," and the military command, which he said "seriously let itself down."
"Something in the conception of how they operated the forces, something in the conception of their control over the forces, something wasn't what we expected, unfortunately, and that no doubt led to the disparity between what we are capable of doing and what we actually achieved," he said.
Olmert acknowledged that senior security officials told him troops hadn't conducted military exercises along the Lebanese border. But he said he "didn't really pay much attention" because the defense establishment "always" complains it is short of funds for training.
The 89 pages of testimony were released 10 days after the commission issued its scathing report on Olmert's handling of the war's first six days. A final report on the full war is due this summer.
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/11/2007 7:40:46 AM
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Olmert wants to testify before Lebanon war commission again
JERUSALEM - Prime Minister Ehud Olmert wants to appear again before the Lebanon war commission, after testimony released by the body showed he blamed the army for shortcomings but acknowledged he ignored warnings that Israeli forces were unprepared for the conflict last summer.
Olmert’s office said late Thursday that he wants to counter a statement to the commission from his foreign minister and political rival, Tzipi Livni, that she recommended a diplomatic solution instead of a large-scale military operation the day after Hezbollah guerrillas captured two soldiers and killed three in a cross-border raid. Olmert said there was no such recommendation.
Olmert’s appearance before the panel failed to stave off its severe censure of his wartime performance. Last week’s publication of the commission’s first report triggered a wave of calls for his resignation.
The war ended without Israeli forces fulfilling Olmert’s two stated goals - crushing Hezbollah and returning the captured soldiers. Instead, Hezbollah rained almost 4,000 rockets on Israel during the 34-day conflict.
In his testimony, Olmert made a pointed distinction between combat forces, whom he praised as "exceptional," and the military command, which he said "seriously let itself down."
"Something in the conception of how they operated the forces, something in the conception of their control over the forces, something wasn’t what we expected, unfortunately, and that no doubt led to the disparity between what we are capable of doing and what we actually achieved," he said.
Olmert acknowledged that senior security officials told him troops hadn’t conducted military exercises along the Lebanese border. But he said he "didn’t really pay much attention" because the defense establishment "always" complains that it is short of funds for training.
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/11/2007 7:43:16 AM
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Israel’s Foreign Minister Meets Egypt’s Chief; More Talks Set
CAIRO, May 10 — President Hosni Mubarak and Israel’s foreign minister, Tzipi Livni, met Thursday and agreed that a team of Arab officials would soon visit Israel to discuss a Saudi peace proposal endorsed by the members of the Arab League.
The meetings here are Israel’s first with high-level officials of Arab countries since the Arab League reaffirmed its support in March for the peace initiative, which it first approved in 2002.
The initiative sets out principles that would give Israel full recognition and normal relations with its Arab neighbors in return for its withdrawal to 1967 borders and creation of an independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital. The proposal also calls for “an agreed, just solution” to the issue of Palestinian refugees.
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/11/2007 7:50:11 AM
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Bombing of civilians extended war, Olmert told panel
JERUSALEM — In confidential testimony on last summer's war with the Lebanese militia Hezbollah, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that the Israeli killing of a group of civilians in Qana in late July was a turning point that delayed a diplomatic resolution.
"The fact is, if Qana hadn't happened, there is good reason to believe that we would have been in a very good position to complete the process," he said in testimony released after editing for security purposes.
The Qana bombing occurred when Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was in Israel trying to secure a cease-fire.
Olmert, who testified earlier this year, was responding to questions from the Winograd Commission, which is investigating the war. His testimony was made public Thursday.
The testimony, given in confidence without lawyers present, was made public after the Israeli Supreme Court ruled it should be, and was redacted by the military censor.
In his testimony, Olmert said, "I really feel that I can talk to you about everything, and I know what I say won't leave this room."
Still, few revelations were made after the first part of the commission report, dealing with the early days of the war, was published on April 30.
Olmert said that the army told him in March 2006 that it was fully prepared for war in the north and that a potential conflict with Hezbollah had been one of his priorities.
Wait a minute! They were preparing for war in the north in March?!? The war didn't happen until July.
Hmm...seems as if they expected (planned) to go to war anyway. Sounds like another war.
He said he had also had a report from the security services that training was lax given budgetary problems, but he had relied on the army's claim to be ready.
He said he knew from the first report on July 12 that two Israeli soldiers had been captured by Hezbollah that he had to act forcefully, even knowing that Hezbollah would rocket Israeli towns in the north.
"If we hadn't attacked that evening, we wouldn't have attacked, full stop," he said.
No, he finally had an excuse to attack. Kind of reminds of Sharon in 1982. Although, I don't think he had an excuse to attack, other than his hatred of the Palestinians and Arafat.
He insisted that foreign minister, Tzipi Livni, who had complained of being left out of critical decisions, had been a partner to all diplomatic discussions.
In Qana, the Israelis said, they were responding to rocket fire. Qana has symbolic importance because Israeli shells killed many civilians there 10 years before in a similar incident. The new deaths created a furor, and Prime Minister Fouad Siniora of Lebanon asked Rice to cancel her trip to Beirut.
I thought Qana was supposedly a setup by the Arabs. You mean, Olmert is admitting to shelling the town?
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/15/2007 11:50:59 AM
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Muslim Religious Ban on Leaving Israel
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Yet another Islamic religious ruling forbidding Moslems from leaving the Holy Land has been issued, this time from the Mufti of Jerusalem and Palestine.
Recently, the Hamas-affiliated Association of Religious Sages of Palestine publicized its ruling forbidding emigration from the lands of the Palestinian Authority. The Mufti of Jerusalem has now joined in, with his own ban, released on Monday, May 14.
The rulings are an indication of the great fear in the Arab world that young people from the Palestinian Authority are increasingly seeking their fortunes abroad. Well yes by golly, if the Moslem's leave, who would be left to carry out the intifada?
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/15/2007 12:08:33 PM
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Palestinian Authority Militia War Resumes
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After a bare three months in the most pivotal position in the Palestinian Authority government, Interior Minister Hani Qawasmeh gave it up as a bad job on Monday. The former interior minister was chosen to unify and control the rival terrorist militias operating in the PA-controlled territories, but it didn’t work out that way.
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Monday’s resignation came in the wake of violent clashes between the Hamas and Fatah terrorist factions, who agreed in February to rule the PA in harmony. The interior minister’s departure added more fuel to speculation that the PA government might collapse as a result of the deadly infighting.
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Terrorists from the two factions have been warring for control of the government for more than a year, killing hundreds of fighters and innocent bystanders and wounding even more. So who's causing the death and destruction in the PA controlled territories?
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/15/2007 12:13:59 PM
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Have you been a good boy?
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Muslim Religious Ban on Leaving Israel
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Yet another Islamic religious ruling forbidding Moslems from leaving the Holy Land has been issued, this time from the Mufti of Jerusalem and Palestine.
Recently, the Hamas-affiliated Association of Religious Sages of Palestine publicized its ruling forbidding emigration from the lands of the Palestinian Authority. The Mufti of Jerusalem has now joined in, with his own ban, released on Monday, May 14.
The rulings are an indication of the great fear in the Arab world that young people from the Palestinian Authority are increasingly seeking their fortunes abroad. Well yes by golly, if the Moslem's leave, who would be left to carry out the intifada?
That is true, but there is also a fear, I believe, that Israel will continue to annex more of the occupied territories as they have slowly been doing. The thing is, also, does this ruling only apply to Muslims, or does it apply to the Jews and Christians in the occupied territories as well?
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/15/2007 1:28:50 PM
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The thing is, also, does this ruling only apply to Muslims, or does it apply to the Jews and Christians in the occupied territories as well? Seeing as how it comes from a Moslem religious council... Besides, remember the Israeli government forced the Jews out of Gaza? And the plan was to force them out of areas of the West Bank too? The "Land for peace" deal isn't quite over yet. Of course it hasn't caused peace to break out yet...
Now, what annexations are you refering to?
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/15/2007 1:40:08 PM
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The thing is, also, does this ruling only apply to Muslims, or does it apply to the Jews and Christians in the occupied territories as well? Seeing as how it comes from a Moslem religious council... Besides, remember the Israeli government forced the Jews out of Gaza? And the plan was to force them out of areas of the West Bank too? The "Land for peace" deal isn't quite over yet. Of course it hasn't caused peace to break out yet...
That's because Israel hasn't followed through on pulling settlers out of the West Bank. Instead, more settlers have moved to the West Bank.
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Annexation of parts of Jerusalem which are located in the West Bank. Building the wall well into areas of the West Bank so as to claim some of that land for their own. In fact, look at post #3 for some of this issue.
On another note, the Palestinians are attempting to stem violence. Look at post #2.
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/15/2007 1:44:46 PM
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On another note, the Palestinians are attempting to stem violence. Look at post #2. Ahh yes. I thought you said they didn't have enough weapons. Now check out post 11.
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/15/2007 2:05:08 PM
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Red Cross Report Says Israel Disregards Humanitarian Law
JERUSALEM, May 14 — The International Committee of the Red Cross, in a confidential report about East Jerusalem and its surrounding areas, accuses Israel of a “general disregard” for “its obligations under international humanitarian law — and the law of occupation in particular.”
The committee, which does not accept Israel’s annexation of East Jerusalem, says Israel is using its rights as an occupying power under international law “in order to further its own interests or those of its own population to the detriment of the population of the occupied territory.”
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/15/2007 2:11:04 PM
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Apparently, they have obtained weapons to be able to fight. At least the gov't is finally able to do something. The problem with that article is that it also calls Fatah a terrorist organization. I was not aware that this was so. I am aware that Hamas is considered a terrorist organization, but Fatah? I thought they were our partner for peace over there. Oh wait, that article is from an Israeli news source. Never mind. 
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/15/2007 2:30:44 PM
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The committee, which does not accept Israel’s annexation of East Jerusalem, says Israel is using its rights as an occupying power under international law “in order to further its own interests or those of its own population to the detriment of the population of the occupied territory.” The International Red Cross has absolutely no political agenda either...
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/15/2007 3:18:56 PM
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The committee, which does not accept Israel’s annexation of East Jerusalem, says Israel is using its rights as an occupying power under international law “in order to further its own interests or those of its own population to the detriment of the population of the occupied territory.” The International Red Cross has absolutely no political agenda either...
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What agenda does the International Red Cross have?
It doesn't really matter--as long as the agenda is "against" Israel then it is obviously wrong.
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/15/2007 3:20:56 PM
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What agenda does the International Red Cross have? Well, let's see from the article Rich linked to and quoted... quote:
The committee, which does not accept Israel’s annexation of East Jerusalem What does their stand on this issue have to do with the mission of the Red Cross as an aid organization? Are they to give aid to those in the world who need it, or are they to set policy on what the world does? In stating "acceptance" or not of any government's actions, they are exposing a political agenda.
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/15/2007 5:00:44 PM
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Well, it seems that even the U.S. does not recognize Israel's annexation: West snubs Israel's new Jerusalem
WHAT'S the capital of Israel? This highly charged question yesterday overshadowed celebrations marking the 40th anniversary of what Israel views as the "unification" of the eternal city, Jerusalem.
Even Israel's closest ally, the United States, refrained from attending the ceremony at the Knesset launching this week's festivities yesterday, and only 20 out of 100 ambassadors accepted an invitation, with the UK and other European Union states all staying away.
What's the political agenda there? Aren't they our BFF (that's best friends forever, for you non-textual lingo types,  )?
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/16/2007 8:29:51 AM
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That's all and well for you to bring up political stands by governments, but you side-stepped the Red Cross question.
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RE: Israel in the News - 5/16/2007 8:50:35 AM
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It has a lot to do with the Red Cross. They are a humanitarian aid organization. There are Arabs in East Jerusalem who are not Israeli citizens, but have found themselves separated from friends, family, and jobs by a wall. The annexation of East Jerusalem has created a humanitarian crisis for the Arab community in East Jerusalem. The Arabs rightly refused Israeli citizenship on the grounds that the annexation was illegal, which the entire international community recognizes as illegal.
We need somebody like Reagan who can stand up and say "Mr. Olmert, tear down that wall".
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