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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/10/2007 8:11:00 PM
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SonInMe1
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If your husband/wife made special plans fpor dinner, out, if you were tired would you go?
If you bought those sport team tickets and when it came time to play you had to work a long day and you are tired, would you go?
Now if you are tired before church...would you go?
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/10/2007 11:24:14 PM
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If your husband/wife made special plans fpor dinner, out, if you were tired would you go?
If you bought those sport team tickets and when it came time to play you had to work a long day and you are tired, would you go?
Anyone who says "Yes" to both of these without hesitation has never been so tired that they have had to choose between damaging their health by pushing beyond their limits, and resting and hopefully recuperating.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 12:17:09 AM
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If your husband/wife made special plans for dinner, out, if you were tired would you go?
If you bought those sport team tickets and when it came time to play you had to work a long day and you are tired, would you go?
Now if you are tired before church...would you go?
Nope- I would not go.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 4:26:20 AM
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If your husband/wife made special plans fpor dinner, out, if you were tired would you go?
If you bought those sport team tickets and when it came time to play you had to work a long day and you are tired, would you go?
Now if you are tired before church...would you go?
When I was working, I was so tired sometimes that I wasn't sure I'd make the 3 minute walk home. I actually told my boss one day that I had to go home NOW because if I carried on working (and I was a produce manager and was kneeling and getting up all the time) and had to kneel down to put some stock out, I probably wouldn't be able to get up.
So no, I wouldn't go out for a special meal and no, I wouldn't go to see a sports team and no, I wouldn't go to church or a church event knowing that the soonest I could get away would be about 5 hours before I got up the next morning.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 8:19:45 AM
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I worked in a stone quarry. When I was new, I shoveled stone. When it rained, I shoveled stone for 50 minutes out of every hour, 10 and a half hours a day. That was the easy shoveling job.
There was another where when it rained I would, at times, help the shoveler there out. We would shovel in this one spot continiously for hours and get nothing done.
When I worked on the farm, I would work for twelve hours, 10 hours milking cows, standing on rubber mat covered cement. When I was done I could hardly walk...
and I had no problem going out or doing other stuff.
Now I work nights and getting 6 hours of sleep is rare. Tired is just a way of life working this shift. Now, I did have to give up Wednesday night services because two hours of sleep, the drive home and work just did not go together very well but I did it for over a year.
I understand once in a while missing church because you are tired. I sure have missed a few. However, if we start to make excuses, they just get bigger and bigger.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 10:02:57 AM
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seems like everytime I come to this topic someone is making a excuse saying it is alright to stay home from church one God commands us in the bible to go to church two someone else pointed out on here I know my church does this ifyou need a ride they will come pick you up like it also says in the bible in the last days there will be a falling away from the faith
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 10:10:14 AM
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in the last days there will be a falling away from the faith
So not going to church is the sign of "falling away from the faith"?
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 10:49:19 AM
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as someone said one of the placesweget our strenth in the faith is being around other Christian people and hearing Gods Word and also from what I have read on here people think iot is ok to stay home from church and not go at ant time asI have said before God commands us to go and be around our Brothers and sisters in Christ
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 10:50:40 AM
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God commands us to go and be around our Brothers and sisters in Christ
Could you post scripture reference please?
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 10:59:53 AM
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as someone said one of the placesweget our strenth in the faith is being around other Christian people and hearing Gods Word and also from what I have read on here people think iot is ok to stay home from church and not go at ant time asI have said before God commands us to go and be around our Brothers and sisters in Christ
If someone is sick, they stay home from church. Are they sinning by doing so?
If someone stays home from church, say, once every 6 months, is that a sin? Or is it only a sin if they do so because they're dead tired vs. in the hospital?
I'm just trying to figure out where the line is - how often can one stay home from church (even for illness) and not be in sin.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 11:14:48 AM
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Lisa - Fairview Baptist posts like he believes that missing church at all is wrong. Sometimes a person CAN be so tired that it's practically an illness.
I'd rather not see people going to church who are ill unless they themselves decided to be there without coercion. And if they're contagious, I'd rather they stay home altogether.
Being guilted into going to church when one is physically not up to it is just as bad as not going for a selfish reason, IMHO.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 11:15:56 AM
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ta_mosquito I am talking about people that only go to church one or two times a year or do not go at all .
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 11:17:30 AM
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Okay. Thanks for clarification, Fairview. It sounds to me like the OP DOES regularly go to church.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 11:21:07 AM
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I don't think FairviewBaptist was saying that if you can't go to church for some reason you are in sin. I think he was talking about people who make excuses, because really they don't want to be there in the first place.
I think as long as you'd rather go to church, I don't think you've got anything to worry about. Your priorities are in the right place, everything else will sort itself out. Someone made plans for dinner? Well, I would say, "Church gets out at 11:30, I'll meet you then." I worked late and I'm tired? I'd sleep until the last minute and take a nap when I get home. Gas is $4 a gallon? I'd go as often as I could afford to, and cut down on other trips first. Kids sick? I'd try and talk my husband into staying home so I could go.  I love going to church! I'd do my best to overcome the obstacle, but if I had to stay home, so be it. I wouldn't feel guilty, just disappointed.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 11:22:41 AM
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I see now that he's clarified his position.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 11:49:53 AM
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I think as long as you'd rather go to church, I don't think you've got anything to worry about. Your priorities are in the right place,
The quote above, when taken out of context, has been used to excuse any number of travesties of the Christian Faith.
Phillip Yancey (author of What's So Amazing About Grace), grew up in a church where church attendance was virtually flawless, but that had ushers who were instructed to stop and exclude non-whites at the door.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 11:52:40 AM
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Church is 7 days a week!
A personal daily relationship with Jesus is the key!
I don't feel guilty missing church
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 12:58:36 PM
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I worked in a stone quarry. When I was new, I shoveled stone. When it rained, I shoveled stone for 50 minutes out of every hour, 10 and a half hours a day. That was the easy shoveling job.
There was another where when it rained I would, at times, help the shoveler there out. We would shovel in this one spot continiously for hours and get nothing done.
When I worked on the farm, I would work for twelve hours, 10 hours milking cows, standing on rubber mat covered cement. When I was done I could hardly walk...
and I had no problem going out or doing other stuff.
Now I work nights and getting 6 hours of sleep is rare. Tired is just a way of life working this shift. Now, I did have to give up Wednesday night services because two hours of sleep, the drive home and work just did not go together very well but I did it for over a year.
I understand once in a while missing church because you are tired. I sure have missed a few. However, if we start to make excuses, they just get bigger and bigger.
That's wonderful that you can do that. I admire your strength. Not everyone has that kind of strength.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 2:02:26 PM
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Its not strength. I just tend to be very stubborn... 
Hebrews 10:25..
Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another-and all the more as you see the day approaching.
I am not sure that means going to church everytime the doors are open but it does mean we should meet together often.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 4:15:21 PM
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You don't have to be in a church to worship. Also, being in church doesn't mean you are worshipping either. I think it's ok to skip church as long as your stay focused on praise, worship and growing spiritually. When my husband or daugther was sick we'd stay home and watch a sermon on tv. We've been so blessed by some of the messages and can worship at home just a easily.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 4:36:10 PM
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posting a little blind here. But to answer the OP, "No." There is nothing wrong with staying home from church if you are tired. In fact, no where in the scriptures does it talk about going to "church" on a regular basis. It was well understood in those times that the "church" was the collective body of believers. The only thing we are encouraged toward is, "do not forsake the assembling of yourself" in other words. Do not forsake fellowship. What we now call "church" is actually "fellowship." The bible tells us that worship is done in Spirit and truth, and that can be done anywhere. Also pure religion is to remain undefiled before the Father and visit the fatherless and widow. So, if you read the NT carefully, you will see there is fellowship, worship, ministering and praise. Four components that do not necessarily all take place on Sunday morning.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/11/2007 7:52:23 PM
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You don't have to be in a church to worship.
While this is true how does it fit in with...
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Hebrews 10:25..
Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another-and all the more as you see the day approaching.
There is no time frame here, like we should meet together once a week or once a month, certainly it does say two things...
we should meet together often...
and we should meet together....we should meet. This is a corporate meeting, a gathering of saints, not worshipping by ourselves.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/12/2007 7:49:30 PM
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I agree, however, if we stay out of fellowship and get complatent, well guess what? (and I don't want to harsh and all and if I am, please forgive me) you are letting the enemy devour you and let him have a field day with you.
One example was I did not want to go to church this morning--I just wanted to play hooky and let the televison ministries and/or internet ministries minister to me. Don't get me wrong, they do encourage me, but also (and I'm gonna get real) there is nothing like human contact w/o the computer being ministered to by a real-type pastor and being a part of a fellowship.
Yes, we Christians do get tired, and yes, there were times that Jesus took a rest also from serving, like many of us because we have these crazy work schedules and non-believers pick at our brains. However, we need to have the support with other christians (and this for those who are able-bodied ) and be accountable to a pastor.
I think today we have a very different definition of fellowship than the early church that Paul wrote to had. The early church seemed to define fellowship as being in relationship with other believers. Today we define it fellowship more as attending a service. So because of that, today we have many people who are "in fellowship" but actually aren't and then there are many who are not "in fellowship" who actually are. In other words, there are many Christians who attend services but have no real relationships with other Christians but they are viewed as having truly fulfilled Hebrews 10:25 because, by golly, they were at the service. On the flip side there are many who don't attend services but they have genuine Christ centered relationships with other believers so they are actually living out Hebrews 10:25 but they are viewed as not being "in fellowship." I think as long as you are keeping your eyes on Jesus you don't have to worry about the devil having a field day with you.
I agree that nothing beats human contact with other believers. But I don't find that real contact with people usually happens during a church service anymore than real contact happens with my wife while we watch a movie. (Unless we're seated in the back row...but we won't go there. LOL!) As for being ministered to by a pastor, this is going to come as a shock, but I don't see that anywhere in the NT. I see references to us ministering to each other all over the NT. And nowhere in the NT do I read anything about us being accountable to a pastor. I'm not trying to make waves, just trying to stick to the Bible. It's just not there.
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