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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 1/16/2008 6:20:39 PM
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becomingwhole
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I just had to post on this topic... I have always hoped I would get to be with my dh in heaven, and have a dear pastor friend that loves to discuss things with me (tounge n cheek argue but frinedly).
He expressed that it states until death do we part...
My question to him that he has yet been able to answer, and now I put to you ....
When we recieved Christ as our Lord, the bible stated that was all the death we would have...
I asked him if to be absent of the body is to be in the presents of Christ, and the old man died when I was saved, then are we still not one ???
A little left field but that is me...
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 1/20/2008 4:01:51 AM
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amyk
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But if you are still one with your spouse after your spouse dies, then anyone who remarries following the death of their spouse is a bigamist?
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 1/20/2008 9:43:32 AM
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I personally do not beleive in remarriage... That is just me though.
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 1/20/2008 12:29:22 PM
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amyk
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But Paul said a widow was free to remarry, as long as she married someone in the Lord. If she was still one with her husband who died, then Paul would have been allowing for a wife to be married to two husbands at the same time, right?
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 1/20/2008 2:47:51 PM
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When we recieved Christ as our Lord, the bible stated that was all the death we would have...
I asked him if to be absent of the body is to be in the presents of Christ, and the old man died when I was saved, then are we still not one ???
becomingwhole, where does it say that death would be all we have? and who is the old man? I'm confused about your question.
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 1/20/2008 3:18:19 PM
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Amyk,
I thought that Jesus answered well in Luke 20:27-40. It doesn't matter after our spose dies. We go on living in this world as best we can. Marriage as we know it here is inconsequential after we die. I believe marriage here is for strength, joy, sharing, companionship, another way to share the blessings of our Lord. We commit to another person in a convenant not a contract just as God did with Abraham. We live the love that God gives to us with another. It is just so special. To have it again after a beloved spouse dies is a miracle to me.
I believe my late husband played a part in sending this new man to me so I could continue to share God's love as I was used to doing. The things I have learned about marriage and the closer to God I am as a result of his death and this union is a blessing I will always thank God for.
Bigotry is a sin of this earth. I do not believe it can happen if life goes on and love continues.
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 1/21/2008 7:47:36 AM
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amyk
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Bigotry is a sin of this earth.
I think you meant "bigamy" and that this was a typo. However, I agree that the Bible makes it clear we are allowed to marry another person following the death of our spouse, and it is quite clear this means physical death. Otherwise Paul would not have given the instructions he gave in 1 Corinthians 7.
In addition to the whole question about what relationships with spouses will be like in heaven, what about relationships with everyone? I mean, if you are going to heaven expecting things between you and your Grandpa to be the same as on earth, I'm not sure that the relationship will be the same. Or between you and anyone. I think it is probably something we can speculate about but will not really know until we are in eternity. And if you had two really wonderful husbands (having married the second one following the death of the first one), then I think it maybe would be strange if you were in heaven with both of them and thinking you would just continue on the same relationship you had with each of them. I guess we will just have to wait and see how all this relationship stuff works out once we move on!
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 1/21/2008 9:04:01 AM
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Oopps, I did mean bigamy, sorry, caught up in the moment and I can't spell for the life of me. I agree with you. We just won't know til we get there. I do think all the relationships will be even better than they are here tho, with grandpa or anyone as we won't have earthly things to worry us. I'm not at all concerned about having two best friends there either!!
After reading the scripture you stated, I thought it interesting that Paul just has no taste for marriage. Makes you wonder what went on in his life before he came to the Lord.  Anyway, back to life here.
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 1/21/2008 10:00:13 AM
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Angels do not marry and when we get to heaven we will be in the presence of the Most High God like the angels are now so I don't think wanting a spouse or wanting anything will be something we experience. Being in the presence of God is more than enough.
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 1/21/2008 5:37:13 PM
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I believe one reason God has put Marriage here on earth is to demonstate to the world how Christ loves his bride the church. In heaven there will be no need for marriage. Its is interesting that as they study how our brains are shaped and our emotions produced it is largely through connection to other people. The marriage relationship is the closest and most character shaping of all the relationships for adults but in heaven we will have Christ himself!!
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 4/4/2008 11:17:55 AM
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ldsrhb;
I'm just curious-does the lds in your name stand for Latter Day Saint (and this is a serious question)? If so, are you attempting to have a discussion about the LDS doctrine of marriage "sealing" (but with a different approach as you know this audience would reject the doctrine out of hand if presented in it's true form)?
Just curious, thanks!
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 4/4/2008 12:02:02 PM
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We do not have enough information to really say anything other than guesswork and conjecture.
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 4/4/2008 3:57:06 PM
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I like to think that my Jesus wouldn't take make me spend eternity not knowing and spending time with my husband. I would think that if he makes someone for us, why would he then, in paradice take that person away or just be like, psych.. he wasn't really meant for you? I think my Dusty will be right by my side praising our Jesus!
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 4/10/2008 4:21:04 PM
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the bible says what you have bound on earth will be bound in heaven. If the two of you are really one as Christ is with his church,, you don't need a legal document,,, you have a spiritual bond.
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 4/11/2008 10:54:28 AM
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 4/17/2008 3:42:05 PM
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Personally I'd like to think that my Beloved and I will enjoy this union throughout Eternity, but in Matthew 22:23-30, Jesus addressed this issue directly:
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The same day Sadducees came to him, who say that there is no resurrection, and they asked him a question,
saying, "Teacher, Moses said, 'If a man dies having no children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up children for his brother.'
Now there were seven brothers among us. The first married and died, and having no children left his wife to his brother.
So too the second and third, down to the seventh.
After them all, the woman died.
In the resurrection, therefore, of the seven, whose wife will she be? For they all had her."
But Jesus answered them, "You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.
For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
I can't conceive of NOT being with this woman in any other capacity than as husband and wife in time OR in eternity, but I know with God ALL things are possible!
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 4/18/2008 9:39:24 AM
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If the bond of marriage is eternal then there will be saints in heaven bound to souls in hell. I don't think that would be very heavenly.
All of our relationships in heaven will be way beyond anything we've ever experienced on earth, including the very best of marriages. Our "oneness" with and in Christ will be fully realized.
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 6/17/2008 5:14:19 PM
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Butterflytearz
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although there will not be marriages in heaven,, I do believe that love never dies,, it remains here and in heaven
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 6/18/2008 9:57:48 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Butterflytearz
although there will not be marriages in heaven,, I do believe that love never dies,, it remains here and in heaven
The love we will experience and have for everyone in heaven will be far beyond any love we ever had for a spouse.
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 6/18/2008 10:10:09 AM
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The love we will experience and have for everyone in heaven will be far beyond any love we ever had for a spouse. And aren't the marriages we have here and now because of the love (albeit limited) we have for another? I can't wait!
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RE: relationship w/ spouse in Heaven? - 6/18/2008 12:48:34 PM
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What a great subject! I must admit that I never have really thought about this issue much
and actually made me sit and really think about this issue, which of course led to God’s holy word. I won’t repeat the verses, other posters have already done this, but sufficient to say God word on this is clear: there will be no marriage in heaven
At first this made me very sad, as I love my wife very much and the thought of not being with her is very sad. But then it occurred to me that as we are both Christians we will both be there, and we will know each other. Just because there is no marriage, doesn’t mean that the love we share will go away! In fact how much greater will my love be for her once it is free from jealously, pettiness, and selfishness, to be able to truly love her like Christ loves us. I think the problem is that we think so highly of marriage( and rightly so) that we think there is nothing else higher or better between a man and a women, so our natural instinct is to be sad when we think that there is no marriage in heaven. But perhaps there is something higher- even Paul did not say (paraphrase) no eyes have seen, nor ears have heard the wonders that await us?
If the definition of marriage is a covenant that is made as a legal and binding partnership between a man and women , then why can’t that same partnership, or the love that is expressed through it exist without a covenant? Why would I not be able to love and be loved by my spouse in the resurrection world? Sure I can’t be “married”, but in that perfect world, there will be no need for covenants and bindings.
In short, Yes there is no marriage in heaven, but I think that the love we have for our spouses doesn’t end with death and the resurrection.
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