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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 2/20/2008 6:17:08 PM
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That movie about the "idiot" being invited to dinner is one of my favorites. I only the French title "Le Diner de Cons" (as I listed above).
Life Is Beautiful (La Vita E Bella) is my favorite movie of all time.
"Le Diner de Cons" or the Dinner Game (it's English title) was so hilarious I couldn't stop laughing.
I can't watch "Life is Beautiful" because it makes me sad but it is a tremendously great movie.
The Japanese version (the original) of "Shall We Dance" is also a very good movie. I can't even watch the Richard Gere version. 
I loved "The Passion of Christ" and "Apocalypto" but even though they were thoroughly sub-titled, I still can't wrap my brain around the term "Foreign" for those films. I guess it's the Mel Gibson factor.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 2/21/2008 8:04:22 AM
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I just saw "The Cave of the Yellow Dog" which was great. Made by the same people (I think) as the Weeping Camel one, which was also good.
Any foreign film with a cute kid actor is good for me. There are a couple of Iranian made films that I enjoyed but I can't remember their names.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 2/25/2008 11:05:21 PM
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Yes! It seems the pace and story content are refreshingly different from the majority of what Hollywood manages to dole out. Thoughtful, sometimes laughable, sometimes "where's the box of tissues?" but a great way to appreciate other cultures and do a little "armchair traveling".
Some favs are: Il Postino (Italian), Children of Heaven (Iranian), Kitchen Stories (Norwegian), Bride and Prejudice (Indian),
Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears (Russian), Turtles Can Fly (Afghan), Nobody Knows (Japanese), Look At Me (French)
When I watch a film from a certain country I like to pray especially for that country's people. It's a neat way to go global for Jesus.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 2/25/2008 11:23:12 PM
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I'm basically in love with Ingmar Bergman films.
edited for spelling.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 2/25/2008 11:27:15 PM
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Ok I'm ignorant but would love to know who is that and what might be your fav?
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 2/25/2008 11:34:28 PM
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Ok I'm ignorant but would love to know who is that and what might be your fav?
Ingmar Bergman is an old Swedish film director/producer/writer. He was extremely cutting edge in technique. He has beautiful camera work and composition. His films are very deep, sometimes hard to understand.
He is also quite, well, liberal. Even for Europe at the time, he probably stepped on a lot of toes for the content that he used. Some of it seems even vulgar for today.
But, all in all, he was a genius.
He has a lot of movies that he has made, and I have not seen a huge amount of them, but up to this point I would say that Persona is my favorite.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 2/25/2008 11:42:51 PM
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Thanks for the tip. I'll have to check it out. Happy viewing and thanks for my first ever forum reply. I feel weirdly modern now.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 2/26/2008 12:02:22 AM
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Thanks for the tip. I'll have to check it out. Happy viewing and thanks for my first ever forum reply. I feel weirdly modern now.
Glad I could help move you into the 21st century :)
Enjoy your stay at the forums.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/3/2008 7:41:53 AM
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World cinema is the best!
La Vie ta bella is one of my favourite films of all time.
Recently rented "A tale of two sisters" (South Korean, can't really fit it into a genre: psycho-drama, horror). Really wel done.
Basically anything with Vince Cassel; awesome actor. "Crimson rivers", recommended
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/3/2008 8:01:17 AM
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Oh yes, and "The Kingdom" by Lars von Trier (hammer horror meets ER)
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/3/2008 9:43:04 AM
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Persona's my favourite, too - wrote a paper on it in college.
Didn't like The Kingdom. Prefer Garth Marenghi's Dark Place.
Favourites (not including English-speakers), hm...
Alejandro Jodorowsky
Jan Svankmajer
Lars von Trier
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/11/2008 4:48:33 PM
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I watch foreign films all the time. I prefer them to the American films. My mother country (Romania) is gaining buzz for their recent offering of foreign films(I'll list English names)--The Death of Mr. Lazarescu, 12:08 East of Bucharest, 4 Months, 3 weeks, and 2 days. Other ones I've liked--Tsotsi, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, Pan's Labarynth, Beautiful Wings, Nobody Knows, The Lives of Others, etc etc etc. I would have loved to have had Romanian subtitled films back when I was learning English, because I would bet foreign films could be a good tool.
As for The Passion of the Christ--it was overrated. I watched it with the church. I am a Christian, but I do not need to watch a guy playing Jesus being beaten and tortured to appreciate what Jesus did for me. It was rather sadistic to have a whole movie of someone being beaten in great detail. What really got me is that some brought CHILDREN to see it. Okay, my piece is over.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/13/2008 8:13:07 AM
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We just rented a Korean film called "Old Boy". It was quite fascinating , and extremely well done, but I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. Its really quite disturbing, I had my eyes closed for the last ten minutes of the film and husband just described the action on the screen. In the west we like our happy endings, we like our tragedies to be tragic but with a redeeming quality at the end. From what I've seen, oriental audiences like their tragedies to be proper, completly and utterly debasing the characters, until the individual is as low as a human being can get; much like greek tragedy. I suppose the way to describe this film and its plot: its like a modern Korean version of Oedipus: Oedipus' sin was his hubris, which led to his downfall, in the modern film pride was the least of the character's sin (because he'd done a lot worse), but it was what ended up condemning him to his fate. There was a very interesting line in it that really spoke to me as a Christian: "whether its a stone or a grain of sand, both end up sinking the same".
Infact, thinking about it, the movie was almost exacly like Oedipus-incest, self mutilation and all! I don't think Disney will be making their own version any time soon.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/16/2008 10:11:20 PM
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Whenever I can. The most memorable that come to mind are:
- The Color of Paradise -- a Farsi (Iranian) movie on what the generations owe to each other. Note particularly which characters get to "see the face of God."
- Grave of the Fireflies -- landmark of the anime genre. WWII as seen from the ground. Semi-autobiographical, and unforgettable.
- Repentance -- Russian-language Georgian film about what the generations owe each other. Trying to cover up the realities of the past generation destroys the future generation. "What's the point of a road that doesn't lead to a church?"
- Eight Women -- if you ever get the chance to avoid this movie, you can save a few hours. The message: "Aren't we French so precious, so wonderfully sophisticated? And isn't father/daughter incest hilarious? Ha, ha, ha!"
- The Seven Samurai -- in the end, the farmers are the only winners. Obviously a post-WWII film.
- The Seventh Seal -- too much talent hitched to too tiny a purpose.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/17/2008 9:48:35 AM
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Pan's Labyrinth-One of the best films I've ever seen
La Vie en Rose
4 Weeks, 3 Months, and 2 Days
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/18/2008 12:02:25 AM
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We just rented a Korean film called "Old Boy". It was quite fascinating , and extremely well done, but I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. Its really quite disturbing, I had my eyes closed for the last ten minutes of the film and husband just described the action on the screen. In the west we like our happy endings, we like our tragedies to be tragic but with a redeeming quality at the end. From what I've seen, oriental audiences like their tragedies to be proper, completly and utterly debasing the characters, until the individual is as low as a human being can get; much like greek tragedy. I suppose the way to describe this film and its plot: its like a modern Korean version of Oedipus: Oedipus' sin was his hubris, which led to his downfall, in the modern film pride was the least of the character's sin (because he'd done a lot worse), but it was what ended up condemning him to his fate. There was a very interesting line in it that really spoke to me as a Christian: "whether its a stone or a grain of sand, both end up sinking the same".
Infact, thinking about it, the movie was almost exacly like Oedipus-incest, self mutilation and all! I don't think Disney will be making their own version any time soon.
I guess regarding the Western/American audience psychology vs. the Asian audience psychology have me offering a litany of sociological theories, stances on how us Asians approach film violence, or for that matter film endings.
With violence, I don't know if it's something akin to the passive-aggressive consequences of Eastern/Zen culture, kind of like resigning to one's dismal fate, no matter how grisly and depressing things can be (being Chinese taught me a lot about what it meant to face the Hegelian farce that is sometimes, Asian life).
At the same time, I can't help but speculate the reason why Asian extreme films are notoriously ultra-violent and depraved: given how much emphasis is vested in harmony and balance, one had to wonder if holding a karmic balance means to keep both evil and good balancing itself like some kind of cosmic scale, sort of like the morality/theology in the Star Wars movies: good needs evil, or something like it, to sort of skewed the biblical concept of free will.
So in the case Oldboy, etc... I'm opining that perhaps Asian audiences were programmed/indoctrinated since day one, to sort of allow film obscenities to run rampant, to complement perhaps our emphasis for pacifism (i.e. don't upset the status quo, be conformist, and just for the sake of going anti-war, etc...). I had a similar thread from a year or two ago, questioning if Asian misogyny in films are symptomatic of that socio-religious paradigm. I'll take this one great leap forward and include movie violence into this concoction.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/18/2008 12:13:19 AM
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Whenever I can. The most memorable that come to mind are:
- The Color of Paradise -- a Farsi (Iranian) movie on what the generations owe to each other. Note particularly which characters get to "see the face of God."
- Grave of the Fireflies -- landmark of the anime genre. WWII as seen from the ground. Semi-autobiographical, and unforgettable.
- Repentance -- Russian-language Georgian film about what the generations owe each other. Trying to cover up the realities of the past generation destroys the future generation. "What's the point of a road that doesn't lead to a church?"
- Eight Women -- if you ever get the chance to avoid this movie, you can save a few hours. The message: "Aren't we French so precious, so wonderfully sophisticated? And isn't father/daughter incest hilarious? Ha, ha, ha!"
- The Seven Samurai -- in the end, the farmers are the only winners. Obviously a post-WWII film.
- The Seventh Seal -- too much talent hitched to too tiny a purpose.
I think I hear ya with 8 Women. Something about Francois Ozon's take on the 50's Douglas Sirk melodramas and musicals had me thinking... OK... yeah, I think the all-female ensemble cast is sexy, blah, blah, blah (no disrespect to Emmanuelle Beart, Virginie Ledoyen, or even Ludivine Sangier), I can see how ridiculously pompous this sort of sexual snobbery can be, which raises the question if film eroticism=sophistication/classiness, then I'll be proud to be a Christian "prudish" version of the proletariat, peasant class!   *
*just don't let Bertolucci know that I said that 
But yeah, I have to watch Repentance sometime soon: sounds like a probable movie to be shown on a Sunday School class, if not in Sunday Service. 
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/18/2008 8:28:33 AM
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Grave of the Fireflies -- landmark of the anime genre. WWII as seen from the ground. Semi-autobiographical, and unforgettable.
As much praise as I've heard for this film, I haven't really had a great desire to see it. I think it's that I like animated films to show me a story/world can't be filmed in live action (and only now can be done with a combination of live action and CGI animation).
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/18/2008 8:50:56 AM
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The Orphanage was the last foreign movie I saw.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/21/2008 12:01:11 PM
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aslouie, that was an interesting insight with regard to the extreme (namely violence) in oriental films.
what i would like to see is an oriental film with a Christian element to it, whilst still retaining cultural relevence (too often, I find, "Christian" is inextricably tied up with "Christian culture").
If anyone wants to measure how bizaare their sense of humour is, watch "Happiness of the Katakuro's": a comedy that jumps from cheesey musical to horror, to musical horror, to clay model animation. Very strange, very funny.
One of the best action films I've ever seen is a Japanese film called "Versus". The action is fantastic, the story is so creative. None of these things are marred by the shoestring budget that the film was evidently made on.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/22/2008 11:52:40 PM
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aslouie, that was an interesting insight with regard to the extreme (namely violence) in oriental films.
what i would like to see is an oriental film with a Christian element to it, whilst still retaining cultural relevence (too often, I find, "Christian" is inextricably tied up with "Christian culture").
If anyone wants to measure how bizaare their sense of humour is, watch "Happiness of the Katakuro's": a comedy that jumps from cheesey musical to horror, to musical horror, to clay model animation. Very strange, very funny.
One of the best action films I've ever seen is a Japanese film called "Versus". The action is fantastic, the story is so creative. None of these things are marred by the shoestring budget that the film was evidently made on.
I've seen Happiness of The Katakuris... it was HILARIOUS! (in a bizarre sense) I'm something of a big Takashi Miike fan (the guy who directed Katakuris), given his unorthodox style of filmmaking and storytelling... maybe more so as of late, now it appears that the bad boy of Japanese shock cinema is steering further and further away from his gross-out, politically incorrect content (see The Great Yokai Wars, or even his return to the Yakuza genre, based on a video game: Ryuga Gotoku, a.k.a. Yakuza).
As for Versus, I have the current, limited edition DVD, and I think director Ryuhei Kitamura is more than just a rising star in Japan's entertainment film industry!*
*Kitamura's take on reviving the whole Godzilla franchise.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/23/2008 12:43:13 AM
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Recently watched Nosferatu and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, which were both really cool. I'm planning on seeing Werner Herzog's take on Nosferatu soon.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 3/23/2008 12:49:02 AM
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Life is Beautiful (that was subtitled wasn't it?)
Yes, and one of my favorites.
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RE: Have you watched any foreign language movies? - 4/17/2008 5:30:26 PM
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Currently with my down time with my work situation, I might consider watching that French drama, Time Out. 
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