|
Users viewing this topic:
none
|
|
Login  | |
|
RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 1/18/2008 2:44:14 PM
|
|
|
Jenny-Fair
Posts: 5801
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: WA
Status: offline
|
quote:
You know, I actually get some kind of strange amusement when I am told to push and I refuse to push on demand. Doctors and nurses don't like not being in control, but they can't force you to push either!
Better Birthing Through Perverse Control Issues...Ok, I can get behind that.
_____________________________
Tony: Ziva, did you kill Houdini?
Ziva: It is possible. I do not remember all their names.
My Blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 1/18/2008 3:31:43 PM
|
|
|
clag4christ
Posts: 2631
Joined: 4/12/2005
From: We just moved to the big state of Texas!
Status: offline
|
quote:
Last time I was told by a nurse that I couldn't push cause the dr wasn't on the floor yet, to which I screamed back..."My husband can catch...he knows how...now SOMEONE get down there!!!!"...the dr walked in the door right then....more like sauntered in the door....uuuggghh... You would THINK that by baby #4 I would KNOW my own body!!!!
That happened to a degree with me when I was in labor with Jael. I was feeling the very strong urge to push and the doctor on call was next door delivering a VBAC who'd been pushing for like an hour and a half. The nurses kept coming in and telling me that I had to wait. I kept telling them that I could not do that and I didn't care who delivered my Jael but that someone needed to get there quick becuase I know how to push! I did end up having to wait about 20 min. for a new doctor to come in and she got to see my first push (Jael started crowning)...then the on call doc came in and got her scrubs on in time to see my last two pushes. Jael was out in 15 min.
_____________________________
<-----Jael as Tinkerbell - Halloween 2008
If you don't want people to insult your intelligence; don't make it so obvious that you have none.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 1/18/2008 6:22:46 PM
|
|
|
Jenny-Fair
Posts: 5801
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: WA
Status: offline
|
You are going to work on it? So..they can hear you on the next floor? LOL I'd tell you to breathe from your diaphramg for maximum projection but I know from experience that that area is kinda busy at that time.
_____________________________
Tony: Ziva, did you kill Houdini?
Ziva: It is possible. I do not remember all their names.
My Blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 1/18/2008 8:02:17 PM
|
|
|
Jenny-Fair
Posts: 5801
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: WA
Status: offline
|
30% at least.
_____________________________
Tony: Ziva, did you kill Houdini?
Ziva: It is possible. I do not remember all their names.
My Blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 1/18/2008 9:10:36 PM
|
|
|
HomeSpunLady
Posts: 1204
Joined: 4/12/2005
From: Lovely Pennsylvania!
Status: offline
|
I had my best friend at Nadia's birth and she said it was the best birth control she'd ever have!
_____________________________
Kathryn
Just Me
Our little bun is here!
Rhys Athanasius
Sept 27
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 1/18/2008 9:15:57 PM
|
|
|
HomeSpunLady
Posts: 1204
Joined: 4/12/2005
From: Lovely Pennsylvania!
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: PrincessDonna
You holding your breath and pushing unnaturally (to the 10 count) can actually deprive the baby of oxygen. My last two, I have not let them check me until my body was already pushing the baby down on its own, and I refuse to push until I hear '10'. Both had pushing phases of less than 20 minutes, with me only pushing when I felt like I needed to. No one else is in your body at that moment, so how can they possibly know when you should be pushing??
Not to mention it makes you want to pass out! I hated it. When I could finally breathe my head was swimming. I only had to push three times, which was a God-send, since I had already been in labor for 20 hours.
Last time I had a dr. This time I found a practice that has CNM, what is the likelihood that I will have a more natural birth? Overall, are midwives more natural than drs? Even CNM's?
Do I need to find a doula?
_____________________________
Kathryn
Just Me
Our little bun is here!
Rhys Athanasius
Sept 27
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 1/19/2008 12:40:42 AM
|
|
|
cynthia
Posts: 8069
Joined: 3/31/2005
From: Beautiful Puget Sound Region
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Eliana
Thanks for starting this thread! The other one, while it has some good info, was so dormant that I worried that anything I posted there would never be responded to.
I've got a question: as I posted in the pregnancy thread, there don't seem to be any birthing classes available where I live.  I've asked my midwife and doctor and hunted online and there isn't anything.
How can my husband and I best prepare ourselves for birthing in the absence of any kind of class? We've ordered two books from Amazon: Husband Coached Childbirth by Bradley and The Thinking Woman's Guide to a Better Birth. Is there anything else we can do to prepare ourselves (apart from tons of prayer!)
I learned way more from books and other people than from the class we took.
With my last baby, having a home birth was important to me because I didn't think I'd make it to the hospital with the next one. I had to be taken by ambulance to the hospital with #2. When I got to the birthing room, the doctor smiled and told me to start pushing.
When we found out I was pregnant with our last baby, I told my husband that the baby would be born at home. I was not going through the hospital experience again. He thought that was a crazy idea and was amazed that it was even possible.
quote:
ORIGINAL: Jenny-Fair
quote:
it's good to know that a long labour can still be managed at home and have a good outcome.
I was in labor from Wednesday mid-day until Saturday at 4:20 a.m. when Nate was born. I WOULD have had another c-section if I had been laboring in the hospital, but in reality nothing was wrong...just a 10 pound baby sunny-side-up who took his time. I am so very glad I was at home. (the homebirth decision was made, at least at first, primarily because they wanted to force a second c-section on me due to having already had one-which was their fault to begin with!)
The home birth climate has changed radically for the worst in the state of Washington. I had a friend who wanted a VBAC, she could not have a home birth. It was either law or insurance, but it simply was not allowed. It was very difficult for her to even find a doctor that would consider allowing her to have a VBAC in the hospital, let alone a home birth. The good news is that she went into labor that went so fast by the time she got to the hospital the baby was crowning. The nurse told her to push and out came the baby.
quote:
ORIGINAL: TammyIsBlessed
I know, but so far I haven't had a choice about being induced. So, if I HAVE to, what's better - pitocin or water breaking?
If you stay home, what are they going to do, come and get you or do you feel it is the right decision? I don't know what your situation is.
quote:
ORIGINAL: Jenny-Fair
I think you should deliver at the local middle school. Make the kids think twice 
Just about spit my brandy on the computer screen. That was funny.
I was helping my friend with her home birth and I called my mother to give her an up-date. My friend was moaning very low. My mother asked, "Did the V's get a cow? I can hear it in the background." "Uh, no, Mom, that's Jen." Mom sounded worried, "Is she okay?"
_____________________________
My husband and I have a motto:
We are the leader. We are one.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 1/19/2008 1:40:14 AM
|
|
|
Jenny-Fair
Posts: 5801
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: WA
Status: offline
|
quote:
The home birth climate has changed radically for the worst in the state of Washington. I had a friend who wanted a VBAC, she could not have a home birth. It was either law or insurance, but it simply was not allowed. It was very difficult for her to even find a doctor that would consider allowing her to have a VBAC in the hospital, let alone a home birth. The good news is that she went into labor that went so fast by the time she got to the hospital the baby was crowning. The nurse told her to push and out came the baby.
I had a lay midwife, so she wasn't bound by any of those policies. We were very blessed to have her.
_____________________________
Tony: Ziva, did you kill Houdini?
Ziva: It is possible. I do not remember all their names.
My Blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 1/19/2008 1:29:26 PM
|
|
|
TammyIsBlessed
Posts: 1478
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Cynthia
[quote:]
ORIGINAL: TammyIsBlessed
I know, but so far I haven't had a choice about being induced. So, if I HAVE to, what's better - pitocin or water breaking?
If you stay home, what are they going to do, come and get you or do you feel it is the right decision? I don't know what your situation is.
So far my history has been....
#1 - full water break with no contractions. Went in and they checked me. Baby's head NOT engaged so they're worried about cord prolapse. After 8 hrs of no contractions I have to be induced.
#2 - water leak, no contractions. After 8 hr of no contractions, they induce with pit. After my water fully breaks I go from 3 - 10 cm in 1 hr.
#3 - water leak, go in but they say the leak resealed, go home. 10 days overdue a fetal assessment shows low amniotic fluid, they insist on induction. Given pitocin again. After my water fully breaks I go from 3 - 10 cm in 1 hr.
So - I've always had to be induced. If my water fully breaks I do not want to risk cord prolapse, especially because in subsequent deliveries, baby's head does not usually engage until labour begins. If it leaks I would perhaps be willing to wait a bit - but I would be worried about a full break happening and cord prolapse again.
With the history of the last 2 labours (very fast after full break), I was wondering if it would be better to induce with breaking waters or with pit.
_____________________________
I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do. Helen Keller
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 1/19/2008 3:24:09 PM
|
|
|
cynthia
Posts: 8069
Joined: 3/31/2005
From: Beautiful Puget Sound Region
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: TammyIsBlessed
With the history of the last 2 labours (very fast after full break), I was wondering if it would be better to induce with breaking waters or with pit.
Okay. Thank you for explaining. I wish I could be of help, but I don't really know anything about that kind of situation.
Yes, Maggie, I had a home birth with Mr.P. I cannot believe it's been eight years now. Unfortunately we had to take him to the hospital a few hours after he was born because of complications. He was in the hospital for three days. The complications had nothing to do with the home birth. He was 9 lbs 10oz. I am 5' tall. He had shoulder dystocia. He had fluid in his lungs.
The only thing about having a home birth was that when my baby had to stay at the hospital, we were not in together, as I had not been admitted, only he was. I stayed in a tiny little room that they had for parents to sleep in when their babies were in the hospital. Since it wasn't a hospital room per se, he was sleeping in the natal unit and I had to go see him. He also was not nursing for a couple of days. They had him on IV. I told them to wake me up when he was ready to nurse. The nurse tried to talk me into sleeping, since I was so tired. She said it would be better for my health if they gave him a bottle.  I insisted they wake me, which they did. What a relief to finally nurse.
Dh put a sign on his bassinette, "ABSOLUTELY NO ARTIFICAL NIPPLES OF ANY KIND." The staff was a bit miffed with us over that, but they seemed to want to stick something in his mouth so bad that we didn't know what else to do. They wanted to take down the sign, but I wouldn't let them. I told the head nurse that anyone could come in that hadn't been on shift for days and not have any idea. I explained that we felt very strongly that he not be given anything to eat or have any kind of nipple in his mouth. She seemed okay after that, but the nursing staff was obviously offended. They were just so insistent and my husband could be there all the time. He felt he had to find a way to protect my from having to defend our decision all the time and to protect Mr.P when I was sleeping.
_____________________________
My husband and I have a motto:
We are the leader. We are one.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 1/19/2008 4:09:53 PM
|
|
|
Jenny-Fair
Posts: 5801
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: WA
Status: offline
|
I wish you had been there, too, and for more reasons than that! I hate to tell you this, though-you were 2x the age I was when I had Brandon, when you had Perry...but when I had Brandon, you had not had your 1st two birth experiences, lol, so maybe you wouldn't have been the help you would have been...ok, my head is starting to hurt 
They would only let me nurse him for 10 minutes, too, and then insisted on giving him a bottle because he was still hungry. Well, duh  Preemie baby, c-section mom..obviously ten minutes is not going to cut it!
Made me even madder when I later found out a couple of things: They had bili blankets in a drawer that they never offered, but would not allow me to hold him more than 10 minutes every 3 hours because they wanted him under the lights AND they were doing THE famous 'kangaroo care' study in that NICU when Brandon was there...but he was in the control group and so specifically they did NOT want me to do all the things that would have been good for him and that came naturally to me 
_____________________________
Tony: Ziva, did you kill Houdini?
Ziva: It is possible. I do not remember all their names.
My Blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 1/20/2008 12:18:28 AM
|
|
|
EmilyAnn
Posts: 1021
Joined: 12/18/2005
From: Thomasville, NC
Status: offline
|
My sister is 18 and is still not sure if she wants to be in the room for the birth. She is coming with us for our sonogram on Wednesday and she is excited about that. She will be at my house during the birth and I will let her decide how much of it she wants to see. I definitely want her to be one of the first few people to hold the baby.
_____________________________
Baby David is here!!
6-13-08
9 lbs. 8 oz.
20 3/4 in long
|
|
|
|
 New Messages |
 No New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
| | |
Forum Tools
Printable Version
do you think I could get paid for it?? Of course you'd get a cut, since it was your idea 
You guys crack me up!
**25****30****35****40 
