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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/11/2008 2:45:14 PM
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solo_soprano22
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I wonder if any women here have had births with a shoulder dystocia that they couldn't get to resolve. I saw a woman die from that once (they pushed the baby back in then did a C-section), but I'm sure something else happened in conjunction. I know sometimes they do all kinds of things to try to remedy that..episiotomies, breaking the bones...sometimes tearing the brachial plexus in the process. I'm thinking that's one situation where I'd hate to be in.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/11/2008 3:52:37 PM
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I took every drug they offered with Grace and the only one that helped was the epidural. But that was my first labour and I was uneducated about what I should be doing and just did whatever the midwife told me to.
With Nathaniel I did it all natural until the last hour when they gave me the epidural which they probably shouldn't have as it made the last bit go longer and stopped me from pushing, they hadn't checked how dilated i was but an hour before that I was probably about 8 or 9 cms!!
I think if you need drugs take em, if you don't that's cool too!
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/11/2008 4:51:14 PM
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I know that when I went past my due date with Jael...something that I really actually wanted to do...well not so much go past my date but more like go into labor on my own...that at first I felt it was a gracious gift...but as the days dragged on (all 4 of them! lol) an induction began to sound more and more appealing...especially since I'd already had one, though it was not a good experience, I knew what to expect and how it would likely go.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/11/2008 5:40:52 PM
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Amber, did they remove the fibroid when they did your c?
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/11/2008 8:35:50 PM
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Nope....too risky. I can't remember what it's called, but it was the type that grows in the muscle/wall of the uterus, and from my understanding can't be removed without significant risk.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/12/2008 2:40:17 PM
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clag4Christ,
Did I read somewhere that you had a problem with a vacuum extraction delivery? If so, I'd be interested to hear about it (I didn't have any problem with mine - and it probably saved me from having a section).
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/12/2008 5:26:55 PM
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When I finally got to go and see her I remember looking around to all the babies wondering which one was mine. That made me feel like a truly horrible mom because I didn't know what my own baby looked like.  
When I came round from the general anaesthetic, it was about 6pm. Last time I'd been aware of the hour it had been around 2pm. The room was darkened, I was alone - no little cot with my baby in. I found myself wondering if I had had the baby yet and why I was here. I looked down at my stomach and it looked quite big still, but maybe not so. Then I realised I felt like I'd been run over by a bus, and guessed that I'd probably had the Caesarean. But I didn't know what had happened to my baby.
After what seemed like an age (though it was probably only 2-3 minutes) a midwife came in to check on me, saw that I was awake and went out to get my dh. He came back in wheeling the little cot saying "someone would like to see you". Unfortunately, following close behind were my parents (who my dh had specifically asked, on my behalf, not to come and visit till the next day), with my mother saying loudly "we saw him first!" All before I had had a chance to hold him. 
Thankfully, my parents only stayed a few minutes.
That just left me, my dh and this baby who looked nothing like either of us and who I felt no connection to. He was not just blue-eyed, but light blue-eyed, and was mostly bald with a very little light blond hair. I was about to ask my dh if they were sure he was ours, when he told me that he'd observed the birth from the operating theatre doorway, so he saw him come out.
I felt even more detached from the whole experience. It seemed like everyone else knew more about it all than me.
My Caesarean was necessary, and I don't regret it. I do however think that the nursing staff could have prepared me better, and handled the whole thing better, just by making allowances for how I might feel. And of course my parents could have handled it better, but that's another story altogether.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/12/2008 5:35:59 PM
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That just left me, my dh and this baby who looked nothing like either of us and who I felt no connection to. He was not just blue-eyed, but light blue-eyed, and was mostly bald with a very little light blond hair. I was about to ask my dh if they were sure he was ours, when he told me that he'd observed the birth from the operating theatre doorway, so he saw him come out.
Yes...I had a hard time bonding with Hannah too...she looked nothing like me and for some reason I thought she should since she's a girl.
I remember being glad that Joel had seen her (his first words upon seeing her were, "She's SOOOO BEAUTIFUL!) because I knew that he was sure that she was ours.
I wish your nurses had prepared you better too, Manda. I'm sorry your first birth, though you don't regret your c-section, that it was so hard emotionally after the fact.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/12/2008 9:07:17 PM
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I also had a "which one is my baby?" horrible experience with my first. He wasn't breathing at birth, was gray, and his lung collapsed when they worked on him, so he got sent to another hospital with a NICU. This was at the same time as I was hemmoraging and being rushed to the OR to remove the placenta. I saw him through a fog of anesthesia for 20 seconds before the ambulance took him. Two days later, I went to the hospital he was, and bawled my eyes out because in this whole room of babies, I had no idea which one was mine.
While I was still in the first hospital, my MIL had the nerve to call me and tell me that she had seen and held my baby. Even my own parents had refused to hold him until I got to.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/12/2008 9:32:10 PM
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I regret the way my first birth experience went, but it all turned out OK. I just didn't have a great doctor. It took me a while to get past the whole experience.
I really wanted a VBAC the second time around, but it's nearly impossible to find a doctor (at least in this part of the country) who is allowed to perform them (they are prohibited by their malpractice insurances).
So I went ahead and went C the second time around and it was a great experience. I was prepared (first one was emergency) and my current OB/GYN is awesome. I recovered very quickly.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/12/2008 9:36:16 PM
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So I went ahead and went C the second time around and it was a great experience. I was prepared (first one was emergency) and my current OB/GYN is awesome. I recovered very quickly.
It is very different to have an elective Caesarean. I think it's partly because you know what to expect, but also because your body isn't in labour and stressed, and you're more relaxed about it. You're also able to make preparations and plans because you know when it is going to happen.
I think there is more of a feeling of control when you've decided and planned it - there is none of the fear of the unknown/unexpected that you have with an emergency one.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/12/2008 9:43:14 PM
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how many births have you had?
Two. One in 1989 (ds) and one in 1993 (dd).
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how many would you categorize as "hard" whether emotionally or physically because of medical reasons?
Both. Both labours were slow and irregular (over 3 days); I dilated very slowly both times. First time I had an emergency Caesarean, second time I had a ventouse extraction.
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do you plan on/did you decide to stop having babies because of a traumatic experience with a birth?
My first delivery left me depressed and withdrawn. I was also distressed because I had always wanted to have more than one child but was terrified to even contemplate becoming pregnant again. The thought gave me the shakes and shivers, and I'd go into shock and cry. I had post-natal depression and it started to lift when my ds was about 6 months old, and was just about gone by the time he was 9 months old. However my dh and I did not have full intercourse again for two years because I was so scared of getting pregnant again.
I prayed about it all, and by the time my ds was nearly 3, I was brave enough to start trying for a baby again. We had our dd when our ds was 4.
My thyroid started to fail after our 2nd child, so that was an added reason for stopping after 2.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/12/2008 9:44:59 PM
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how many births have you had? 2
how many would you categorize as "hard" whether emotionally or physically because of medical reasons? Just the first one. I had preeclampsia and PUPPPS and had to go on bedrest at 36 weeks. I was induced because of my dangerous BP and PUPPPS at 38 weeks. The labor wasn't painful or unbearable, but my doc was progressive and, well, "detached" I guess is the best way to describe. I wish I would've done things differently. Even though I was induced, I wish I would've labored walking around instead of laying in bed (I didn't know) and I would've waited to get my epidural (I got it at 3cm at doc's suggestion, and then I stalled).
do you plan on/did you decide to stop having babies because of a traumatic experience with a birth? no
for those with medical issues, how many babies do you (at this time) think you would be up for having before you decided to stop (because of medical reasons....let's not get into the whole "children are a blessing" thing...we all know they are...I am just asking about medical issues, not your moral beliefs. I'll most likely go all c-sections, even though I'd like to go natural, there is unfortunately so much red tape with the insurance companies. But that doesn't have any effect on the # of children we will have (we don't know what that number is yet)
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It is very different to have an elective Caesarean. I think it's partly because you know what to expect, but also because your body isn't in labour and stressed, and you're more relaxed about it. You're also able to make preparations and plans because you know when it is going to happen.
I think there is more of a feeling of control when you've decided and planned it - there is none of the fear of the unknown/unexpected that you have with an emergency one.
Yes, definitely!
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/13/2008 9:21:28 AM
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how many births have you had?
Three...2000, 2005, 2007
how many would you categorize as "hard" whether emotionally or physically because of medical reasons?
Just the first. Contractions and bedrest from 4 months on. I was our sole income at that time, and my marriage was a huge mess. No one could ever figure out WHY I was having contractions, until delivery when a rare placenta disorder was discovered. Baby had a chest deformity and was not breathing after a horrendous labor, was sent to a bigger hospital an hour away with a NICU. I went to emergency surgery to remove the placenta.
do you plan on/did you decide to stop having babies because of a traumatic experience with a birth?
I was terrified to be pregnant again for a while, but also knew I wanted at least one more. The chances of having the placenta issue again were very high, but (PRAISE GOD!) the other two deliveries I had the biggest, healthiest placentas the nurses had seen. They went on and on about how great they looked. Since we did know the problem from the first time, the doctor knew what to look for (no membrane separation between the placenta and uterus). Also of women who die from placenta accreta/increta/percreta, usually the ones who die are those who didn't know they had it until delivery. It really was a miracle I survived that first delivery in such a tiny, country hospital. They had to call in the entire surgical team at 2 am.
Anyway, I did a lot of research, until I was comfortable with the risk. And then God let it take a good long time to conceive again, so I think He wanted to make sure we were GOOD and ready. 
for those with medical issues, how many babies do you (at this time) think you would be up for having before you decided to stop (because of medical reasons....
We think this one (#5, counting my stepson) might be our last. If this is the case, I will have a hysterectomy after the baby is a few months old. This decision is already approved of by my doctor, because of recurrent aggressive endometriosis and increasing pelvic and hip pain due to a separated pelvis, which also occurred during that first delivery.
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RE: Do we need an UNNatural childbirth support and disc... - 1/13/2008 10:05:11 AM
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It will not affect it. I asked the doctor already, and did some research on my own, which confirmed what I had been told.
From THIS site:
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It's possible to breastfeed after a hysterectomy. You don't need a uterus or ovaries in order to be able to nurse your baby. Breastfeeding is regulated by hormones secreted by the hypothalmus and the pituitary glands. Your milk production is not affected by removing your ovaries and/or the uterus.
Estrogens may decrease the quantity and quality of breast milk; therefore, if you will be treating your menopausal symptoms with HRT, you may want to ask your doctor if you can do this while nursing or if you should wait until you wean your baby before starting HRT.
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I would send Micah out to check on her because I would think I heard her crying and she would be peacefully asleep. She's like me, she adored being under those bili-lights...I love the tanning bed 
