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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/20/2008 11:26:45 AM
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JimboFletch
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Again, it’s all about Christ’s work on the cross.
An astute observation. On the cross Jesus offered Himself for whom, people OR a thing, a literal city of stone?
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But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
-Romans 5:8
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Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
-1 John 4:10
Study why and for whom Jesus went to the cross and you will discover His Bride, the Church.
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RE: Church as the so-called bride of Christ? - 6/20/2008 11:38:48 AM
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Non-issue.
I fail to see how you can say this, especially in light of the Scriptures you yourself quote!
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Please note what Christ said:
John 17:1-5
1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Christ and the Father were glorified through Christ’s and His work on the cross.
Christ's #1 focus at the most difficult time of His earthly ministry was in one place - the glory of God. If God is concerned, primarily, with His glory here, why would He be less concerned during the end-times events?
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Heb 12:1-2
1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Again, it’s all about Christ’s work on the cross.
...Actually, I'm not sure how that applies to this discussion at all. Sorry, perhaps you could clarify more?
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Revelation 21 says what it says. We glorify God when we believe His Word.
But we don't glorify God when we don't properly exegete, understand and apply His word. He does not call us to blind, surface readings. And Scripture must be read in the context of Scripture. Given the immense, undeniable (in my opinion) theme of God's glory being paramount, I contend that you must show a way that God is glorified through Jesus marrying a literal city.
Please show one time where Christ ever spoke of the church as His bride. No one has yet been able to do this. Can you please?
Thank you.
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"For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come." Heb 13:14 = "notmycity"
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/20/2008 11:42:52 AM
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Again, it’s all about Christ’s work on the cross.
An astute observation. On the cross Jesus offered Himself for whom, people OR a thing, a literal city of stone?
For people of course, Jimbo. The very same people (children of the bride chamber) who will be “called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb” (Rev 19:9).
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"I am a companion of all them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts." Psalm 119:63
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"For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come." Heb 13:14 = "notmycity"
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/20/2008 11:52:57 AM
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The very same people (children of the bride chamber) who will be “called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb” (Rev 19:9).
Where do you get children of the bride chamber from "Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb"? Those could very well be angels.
And why ignore verse 8?: "And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints." A city is not "saints".
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/20/2008 12:45:25 PM
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Where do you get children of the bride chamber from "Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb"? Those could very well be angels.
Only if angels were ever called “blessed”, which I do not believe is anywhere in Scripture.
If I am wrong, can you please show where angels are blessed in Scripture?
If not, clearly the blessing is for people who are saved.
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Church as the so-called "bride" of Christ? - 6/20/2008 1:24:05 PM
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I noticed someone highjacked my OP thread name, so I put it back to its original.
Thank you.
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"For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come." Heb 13:14 = "notmycity"
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/20/2008 2:00:57 PM
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Where do you get children of the bride chamber from "Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb"? Those could very well be angels.
Only if angels were ever called “blessed”, which I do not believe is anywhere in Scripture.
If I am wrong, can you please show where angels are blessed in Scripture?
If not, clearly the blessing is for people who are saved.
Do you know what "blessed" means - and why is it hard to believe that any created being of God is beyond being blessed by Him?
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/20/2008 3:12:06 PM
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Do you know what "blessed" means - and why is it hard to believe that any created being of God is beyond being blessed by Him?
For the purpose of this discussion, and any other discussion pertaining to Christian doctrine, let’s stick with WHAT IS WRITTEN in Scripture please.
Christ regularly referred to Scripture, as did His disciples/apostles.
The saved/redeemed are the ones being called to the marriage supper, and the holy city is “the bride, the Lamb’s wife”, IF one believes Revelation 21.
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"I am a companion of all them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts." Psalm 119:63
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"For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come." Heb 13:14 = "notmycity"
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/20/2008 3:48:40 PM
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For the purpose of this discussion, and any other discussion pertaining to Christian doctrine, let’s stick with WHAT IS WRITTEN in Scripture please.
Nope, ain't gonna do it. The Apostle John wouldn't agree with such a ground rule and neither will I.
You may think that God is so small that He can only do what is recorded within the 66 books of the Bible, but it just isn't so. He will not do something that contradicts His character or holiness found in the written word, but He isn't limited to it like you seem to be.
If you want a scripture reference for THAT, I'll give you one:
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
-John 21:25
That was written about Jesus Christ just during His incarnation of about 33 years. You canot make me believe that He has been on vacation since - or before - then.
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/20/2008 6:52:26 PM
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Please show one time where Christ ever spoke of the church as His bride. No one has yet been able to do this. Can you please?
Will the Apostle Paul do? Ephesians 5:22-33, especially verse 32.
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RE: Church as the so-called bride of Christ? - 6/21/2008 8:11:50 PM
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Let's face it, a city takes on the character of those that inhabit that city. New Jerusalem would not be much if it was inhabited by the King and the righteous saints. There are references in the OT which depicts Israel as a bride.
Isa. 61:10
I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.
Jer. 3:14
Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:
This links up perfectly with the New Covenant which when you read Jer. 31:31-34 & Heb. 8:8,9,10 etal tells you that the receipients of this covenant is the "House of Israel and the "House of Judah."
All others nations are grafted into the vine...Israel just like in the OT...see Ruth, Rahab and the "mixed multitude" who came out of Egypt.
Regarding the "Bride is only the city of the New Jerusalem and not the Church" teaching this was widely taught by Finis Dake and is unfortunately not sound teaching. Our relationship with Christ is as intimate as marriage between a man and woman. In fact Hosea illustrates this so beautifully when YHWH told him to marry a harlot symbolizing Israel "a whoring after other gods."
Every time Israel backslid she played the part of an unfaithful spouse.
In Ezekiel 16:6-14
6 And when I passed by thee, and saw thee polluted F54 in thine own blood, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live; yea, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live. 7 I have caused F55 thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare. 8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine. 9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood F56 from thee, and I anointed thee with oil. 10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk. 11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck. 12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, F57 and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head. 13 Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom. 14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GODn Ezek. 16:6, Israel is depicted as a bride.
This is a beautiful depiction of a Jewish Groom and Bride scene.
Jesus said, I go to prepare a place for you in the gospel of John, which is what a husband in Jewish custom would do in order prepare for his bride. The above scripture in Ezekiel seems to be where Paul referenced
Ephesians 5, involving Christ and the Church.
I can truly say that He love me even though is not much to love! Every time we read the Word of God, we are reading one big love letter! Lbolt
this is a repost and bears repeating. Israel and the church are one. Not two separate and distinct entity...one! Peter calls us "a holy nation." Replacement theology makes you see a difference between Israel and the church but the Bible tells otherwise. The are many prophesies of the seed of Avraham being as the sand of the sea...an innumerable number.
You premise, NMC, is false and poster after poster has provide you alot of scripture showing you that we are the bride of Christ. The problem is you are bent on your point of view no matter what we show you.
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/22/2008 3:50:38 PM
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Please show one time where Christ ever spoke of the church as His bride. No one has yet been able to do this. Can you please?
Will the Apostle Paul do? Ephesians 5:22-33, especially verse 32.
The church is called the body in Ephesians (nine times), including twice in chapter 5.
As has been said earlier, chapters 5-6 teach regarding husbands and wives, children and parents, servants and masters. Context please.
Thank you.
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"I am a companion of all them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts." Psalm 119:63
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"For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come." Heb 13:14 = "notmycity"
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RE: Church as the so-called bride of Christ? - 6/22/2008 3:57:54 PM
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this is a repost and bears repeating. Israel and the church are one. Not two separate and distinct entity...one! Peter calls us "a holy nation." Replacement theology makes you see a difference between Israel and the church but the Bible tells otherwise. The are many prophesies of the seed of Avraham being as the sand of the sea...an innumerable number.
You premise, NMC, is false and poster after poster has provide you alot of scripture showing you that we are the bride of Christ. The problem is you are bent on your point of view no matter what we show you.
Sounds like another thread. To answer your post, please see:
Gal 4:21-26
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Do you see that there are TWO cities of Jerusalem?
Also, I never believed in “Replacement Theology”.
Thank you.
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"I am a companion of all them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts." Psalm 119:63
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"For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come." Heb 13:14 = "notmycity"
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RE: Church as the so-called bride of Christ? - 6/22/2008 5:45:57 PM
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The church is called the body in Ephesians (nine times), including twice in chapter 5.
I'm a bit lost as to what this adds to the discussion. Perhaps you could elaborate?
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As has been said earlier, chapters 5-6 teach regarding husbands and wives, children and parents, servants and masters. Context please.
I see, you can just quote Scripture and demand we accept your interpretation at face value, but if anyone posts a verse that doesn't go along with your view, then it needs "context." All right.
Yes, the instructions in Ephesians 5:22-33 are appliacable for husbands and wives. But verse 32 makes it clear that not only does it describe the earthly marriage realtionship, but also shows the truth that we are the bride of Christ, and He is our husband. That's the primary purpose of human marriage - to illustrate the amazing relationship God has made available to us.
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RE: Church as the so-called bride of Christ? - 6/23/2008 10:31:52 AM
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Yes, the instructions in Ephesians 5:22-33 are appliacable for husbands and wives. But verse 32 makes it clear that not only does it describe the earthly marriage realtionship, but also shows the truth that we are the bride of Christ, and He is our husband. That's the primary purpose of human marriage - to illustrate the amazing relationship God has made available to us.
Please read it again and you will see the passage is teaching headship.
Eph 4:15-16
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
Also, can you show where Christ ever called the church a bride?
Thank you.
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"I am a companion of all them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts." Psalm 119:63
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RE: Church as the so-called bride of Christ? - 6/24/2008 1:47:47 AM
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Please read it again and you will see the passage is teaching headship.
You're ignoring the plain meaning of the passage I brought up. Paul makes it clear that, while his instructions are for wives and husbands here on earth, he is specifically talking about Christ and the Church. Yes, Christ is the head of the Church, obviously. The husband is the head of the wife. In the same way, Christ is the head of His wife - the Church!
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Also, can you show where Christ ever called the church a bride?
Can you show me where He called a literal stone city his bride?
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RE: Church as the so-called bride of Christ? - 6/24/2008 12:22:15 PM
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Please read it again and you will see the passage is teaching headship.
You're ignoring the plain meaning of the passage I brought up. Paul makes it clear that, while his instructions are for wives and husbands here on earth, he is specifically talking about Christ and the Church. Yes, Christ is the head of the Church, obviously. The husband is the head of the wife. In the same way, Christ is the head of His wife - the Church!
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Also, can you show where Christ ever called the church a bride?
Can you show me where He called a literal stone city his bride?
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Eph 5:32
32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
That’s exactly what it is - “a great mystery”, and one that many claim to have “solved”.
There is only one passage in all of Scripture that speaks of “ the bride, the Lamb's wife.”
Rev 21:9-10
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God...
This too is a great mystery. I don’t pretend to understand it. I only know that it is written, which makes it true
Rev 22:6
6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
I never mentioned “a literal stone city” as His bride, and neither does Scripture.
Thank you.
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"I am a companion of all them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts." Psalm 119:63
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"For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come." Heb 13:14 = "notmycity"
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/24/2008 12:31:54 PM
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Please read it again and you will see the passage is teaching headship.
You're ignoring the plain meaning of the passage I brought up. Paul makes it clear that, while his instructions are for wives and husbands here on earth, he is specifically talking about Christ and the Church. Yes, Christ is the head of the Church, obviously. The husband is the head of the wife. In the same way, Christ is the head of His wife - the Church!
You are correctly interpreting the passage and the consistent message throughout scripture, the Church IS the bride of Christ.
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Also, can you show where Christ ever called the church a bride?
Can you show me where He called a literal stone city his bride?
No, he can only incorrectly connect verses 9 and 10 in Revelation 21.
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/24/2008 12:58:58 PM
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Can you show me where He called a literal stone city his bride?
No, he can only incorrectly connect verses 9 and 10 in Revelation 21.
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Have you not read that we not to bare false witness? I believe that it was John through the Spirit almost two thousand years ago who penned the prophecy. I just read it and BELIEVE it.
Also Jimbo, I named this OP “Church as the so-called bride of Christ?”, so please leave the title as is if you would.
Thank you.
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/24/2008 2:06:48 PM
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Have you not read that we not to bare false witness?
Yes and I do not do so. Is that a confession that you do?
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I never mentioned “a literal stone city” as His bride, and neither does Scripture.
So what are you saying, that the city you allege is His bride is made of marshmallows?
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/24/2008 2:21:21 PM
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Have you not read that we not to bare false witness?
Yes and I do not do so. Is that a confession that you do?
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I never mentioned “a literal stone city” as His bride, and neither does Scripture.
So what are you saying, that the city you allege is His bride is made of marshmallows?
Hmmmm.....
Your posts are starting to resemble trolling, but I will answer. I allege nothing.
It is written:
Rev 21:9-27
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Please notice that I again quoted SCRIPTURE. It is not my words that you have a problem with.
Even the Scripture says “her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal”, not what others have misquoted me as saying.
Thank you.
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"I am a companion of all them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts." Psalm 119:63
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"For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come." Heb 13:14 = "notmycity"
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - 6/24/2008 3:28:16 PM
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JimboFletch
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ORIGINAL: notmycity
Please notice that I again quoted SCRIPTURE. It is not my words that you have a problem with.
You quoted scripture and entirely avoided the question.
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Even the Scripture says “her light was like unto...
In English, to say a woman's eyes are like unto limpid pools does not mean she has clear water in the place of eyes. You quoted a metaphor, not a literal description.
I don't think you have an idea what the bride of Christ is or else I do not think you know how to interpret scripture because you say what the Bride isn't but cannot say in your own words what the bride is. If you cannot articulate the meaning of a passage, then you don't understand it.
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RE: The Church as the so-called "bride" of Ch... - 6/24/2008 3:29:23 PM
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MrFribbles
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I never mentioned “a literal stone city” as His bride, and neither does Scripture.
Then what are you suggesting His bride is, if not a literal stone city?
Also, how would you respond to the fact that idolatry in God's people is often equated with adultery, implying a marriage relationship between them?
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You're a door without a key,
A field without a fence.
You've made a holy fool of me,
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RE: The Church IS the bride of Christ! - - 6/24/2008 3:35:10 PM
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JimboFletch
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I never mentioned “a literal stone city” as His bride, and neither does Scripture.
Then what are you suggesting His bride is, if not a literal stone city?
Also, how would you respond to the fact that idolatry in God's people is often equated with adultery, implying a marriage relationship between them?
I hope you get a clearer answer than I got...
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