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Visions from God, the devil or me? - 2/12/2008 11:42:58 AM
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sindy002
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If I've posted this in the wrong area, let me know. About 16 years ago, a young minister and his wife began to visit our church. One night, during testimony service, I overheard the lady testify about how she met her husband. He was interested in her, but she wasn't sure if he was who God wanted her to have or not. She prayed and asked God about it and he showed her the minister she's married too now. They got married and had 3 children. As far as I know, they're still married today. O.K. now here's my situation. After I heard her say that, I decided to pray and ask God to let me meet my husband. Well, some time passed and no husband was to be found. So, I decided to ask God to let me see my husband. Well, my exact words were, "Lord if you're not ready for me to be married yet, will you let me see how he looks"? At the end of that week, I saw a vision of a guy at church, sitting at the offering table with his hand under his cheek, reading a bible. I've never seen the man before in my life. But, I still remember how he looks as if I saw him yesterday. He was a light brown complexion, had a big round face, small facial features, and wore some cute blue glasses. For years I believed that he was my husband. But, one day I told a missionary at my church about the vision. She told me that I needed to focus on God and that he would send me who I needed. To me, she was saying the vision wasn't from God. Well, after that, I started to doubt that God had showed me the vision too. So, I asked him again. After that, I saw four different men. And, all of them looked different. What happened?? I love God with everything in me. And, I know a man could never do for me what God has done. God speaks to me in dreams and shows me some things before they happen. (I'm not a psychic. I'm against that.) But, this thing has me confused. Tell me what happened please. I don't want to be a false prophetess.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 2/13/2008 12:12:19 PM
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sindy002
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Wow, I guess that one has everybody stumped. Well, pray with me that God will reveal His truth to me. Thanks in advance.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 2/13/2008 1:25:43 PM
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I'm not stumped. First, it's inappropiate to ask God for favours (such as "showing" you what your future husband - if there will be one at all - looks like).* Second, I don't find you a "false prophetess," just a wishful thinker/daydreamer. *Well, of course you can ask, supplication is, after all, a just part of prayer; it's the expectation of God doing what we ask Him to where the fault lies.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 2/13/2008 1:27:29 PM
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I don't know what to say. All i know is that God does answer prayers and I know that sometimes He won't give you what you what, He will give you what He knows you need. Before I married my husband I had a lot of problems with him simply because he was a womanizer. But I loved him very much. One day I was at my wits end and I send him a packing, I was missing him so much that I prayed and I ask God that if this man was for me please send him back but to change his ways,and if he wasn't to please help me get him out of my life, well he came back in my life and this time he was born-again and now he is a Minister and we are still going strong 36years going strong and I thank my God everyday. God will answer your prayer if He han't already. Just remember He will give you want He know you need not what you want.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 2/13/2008 1:36:57 PM
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sindy002
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Thanks for your replys. I only want to make sure I end up with the guy God chose for me. No harm intended.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 2/14/2008 5:38:14 AM
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I once prayed that, and got a very vague picture. It might be God and it may not be. I'd just not focus on it, like most prophecies or words, and see if it comes true. I don't see any harm in asking. Sometimes God shows us things and sometimes the devil jumps in too - through an open door. That's why we need to test everything. (And sometimes that can only happen through time.)
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 2/26/2008 11:04:00 AM
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Sindy, I know how hard it is to wait patiently for that special person to come into your life. Just know that you are not alone or the first person to feel...lonely perhaps? I hope you are able to be at peace with being single. Don't worry about tomorrow. It will take care of itself. Until then, take care of yourself and offer yourself up for service to His will. j
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 3/4/2008 8:45:01 AM
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ORIGINAL: sindy002 After that, I saw four different men.. The Marx Brothers? Seriously though, why do you pester God asking him to show you your beloved, that's the sort of thing daffy women do who consult fortune-tellers and horoscopes..:)
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 3/4/2008 8:58:38 AM
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Has anyone simply considered dreams are nothing more than that... dreams? Or a spicy dinner had before going to bed? Just trying to add some balance..
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 3/4/2008 2:12:17 PM
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There's nothing wrong with asking---in fact, it's good to ask for counsel. Was it from God? Fix your eyes on Jesus. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Delight yourself in Him and He will give you the desires of your heart. Then you will know. Bless ya!
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 3/4/2008 9:22:16 PM
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ORIGINAL: sindy002 If I've posted this in the wrong area, let me know. About 16 years ago, a young minister and his wife began to visit our church. One night, during testimony service, I overheard the lady testify about how she met her husband. He was interested in her, but she wasn't sure if he was who God wanted her to have or not. She prayed and asked God about it and he showed her the minister she's married too now. They got married and had 3 children. As far as I know, they're still married today. O.K. now here's my situation. After I heard her say that, I decided to pray and ask God to let me meet my husband. Well, some time passed and no husband was to be found. So, I decided to ask God to let me see my husband. Well, my exact words were, "Lord if you're not ready for me to be married yet, will you let me see how he looks"? At the end of that week, I saw a vision of a guy at church, sitting at the offering table with his hand under his cheek, reading a bible. I've never seen the man before in my life. But, I still remember how he looks as if I saw him yesterday. He was a light brown complexion, had a big round face, small facial features, and wore some cute blue glasses. For years I believed that he was my husband. But, one day I told a missionary at my church about the vision. She told me that I needed to focus on God and that he would send me who I needed. To me, she was saying the vision wasn't from God. Well, after that, I started to doubt that God had showed me the vision too. So, I asked him again. After that, I saw four different men. And, all of them looked different. What happened?? I love God with everything in me. And, I know a man could never do for me what God has done. God speaks to me in dreams and shows me some things before they happen. (I'm not a psychic. I'm against that.) But, this thing has me confused. Tell me what happened please. I don't want to be a false prophetess. I think that what bothers me most about your post is that you assume that somewhere there is one guy that God has picked out for you in a special way. As far as I know, there is absolutely nothing in the Scriptures that makes that claim. In fact, Paul is very practical in talking about marriage. He simply says that if a couple wants to marry then they should. It is only AFTER we marry that we have found THE right one. The Bible IS clear that once we chose to marry a person, THAT person IS the RIGHT one. When the charismatic movement was young it was very common for people to want to see visions, dream dreams and have a 'word of knowledge'. This is not to say that any or all of these things are not real. But, in the vast majority of cases they clearly were self induced. As one sage of the time observed, "Be careful when you want to hear a voice speaking to you. You WILL get your wish; but, it probably won't be Jesus doing the talking." I would urge you to relax and just be a fun person to be around. My older daughter married later and I'm sure she wondered if she would ever find someone to with which she could share her life. It was worth the wait, because her husband is a wonderful man.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 3/4/2008 9:28:58 PM
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Wonderful post, TMeeks.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 3/4/2008 11:54:10 PM
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ORIGINAL: earthless Wonderful post, TMeeks. Thanks!
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 3/5/2008 7:55:57 AM
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After that, I saw four different men. And, all of them looked different. There are several different reasons for "seeing a vision". 1. It is a real vision from God. The Bible records several instances of these visions and they are mostly for a purpose and the person who has the vision may not completely understand the whole vision but they seem to know it is from God. Since the Bible is now complete, I think that this possibility may not be very likely until the time when the Lord begins to restore the nation of Israel. 2. Blood toxicity. There are chemicals that can be introduced into the blood system either through illness (like a tumor) or through toxins (like drugs or poisons) that create powerful visual effects. 3. Imaginations. When a person turns out the light at night to go to sleep, they can sometimes still "see" the image of their room when their eyes are closed. This image can sometimes be manipulated to add or delete items as well as change the dimensional relations. What this illustrates is the power of our minds to create a mental "stage". This may also be part of a mechanism that is employed in dreaming. 4. Demonic presentation. Many occult practices encourage people to make use of their imagination to visualize characters or images to facilitate demonic contact and influence. While reasons 1,2, and 4 would be infrequent, reason three could be very common. We use our imagination almost every day. When we hypothesize, consider possibilities, or even think about redecorating, we engage our minds to consider what does not yet exist. In situations of strong desire it would be very easy for us to project an image into a prayer and think that we were receiving an image from God. One thing we should consider are our motives. A person who wants to know who they will marry may upon occasion go to a fortune teller to get a reading. A Christian would want to be careful not to go to the Lord with the same desire or in the same way.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 3/6/2008 12:03:16 AM
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sometimes, It may be up to us to find the person we need to marry...and sometimes God will lead you to them by means of certain events...at times i think that God may have led me to meet my internet bf, but I really don't know, hehe! only God knows. ..I have never had any visions of what or who my future husband will be, and I really don't desire to know just yet, coz I'm still dating my bf on the internet, maybe in the future when we go seperate ways, I'll want to find a husband, but I won't try too hard, coz God will lead me in the right direction if I have a good relationship with Him.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 6/4/2008 10:16:38 AM
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I closed the topic, or so I thought. However, I missed your posts. I will say this with the utmost respect. Just because you do not believe that God shows us visions and dreams, doesn't mean you're right. He's not offended because I asked him to let me see my husband. It doesn't hurt him, and it doesn't make him vulnerable. You just feel that way. In the future, if you're ever in disagreement with something I post or you don't like it, please do not comment. That keeps us from feeling or saying things that are ungodly. You shouldn't feel obligated to respond. I'm only asking these questions to people who know the word of God and who will give me good, sound, advice. My posts aren't meant to doctrinate anyone. I'm only writing of the things that I know.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 6/4/2008 10:31:57 AM
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Hello sindy002 I think you should have heeded the advice of your friend. Don't worry about who your husband is going to be or what he looks like. Grow closer to the Lord and he will send you one. I have seen some exceptions to this but by and large our loving God wants us to go through life with a companion of love. He also wants to design that relationship and make it work once it starts. Have you not been affected by a "true love" complex? It's a dream world that many tend to get caught up in. Love stories are good but only if authored by God.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 6/4/2008 10:52:34 AM
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I hear you and I understand what you're saying. True love is the love of Christ. He told us to love one another as he has loved us. That's the kind of love I'm looking for in a husband. I can't have a man that will love me as long as I'm beautiful, or as long as I'm able to have sex, or all that stuff. His love has to be unconditional. If I gain weight will he still love me the same? If I got cancer and lost my hair would he still love me? There is a man like that out there who will love me that way. God knows my heart in this matter. I didn't mean any harm when I asked him to let me see my husband. This has confirmed one thing to me for sure. And that is there's no better friend than Jesus. I came to you all because you said you're my christian brothers and sisters in Christ. But, now I understand why the bible instructed us to cast all our cares on him. He cares for us at all times. And, he understands why we do the silly things we do. Sometimes, we just don't understand each other. We pre-judge each other before we know the whole matter, we degrade each other, and some of us have the nerve to think we're the only righteous person in the world. God doesn't behave that way. He always has his arms open, wanting us to come to him so he can bear our burdens. He doesn't beat us down everytime we do or say the wrong thing. But, he tells us that if we come to him with our problems and/or struggles he'll help us. You all, I'm saved. (Just in case you didn't know). And, I know, that I know, that I know, there's not a friend in the world like the lowly Jesus. Thanks for your help.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 6/4/2008 11:26:26 AM
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Sindy002, It's OK (IMHO), to ask God to show you your future husband. But you really have to realize that God answers our prayers in only one of three ways: yes, no, or later. He also has His agenda and His timetable. Just beware of trusting in "dreams" - Satan can also influence dreams. Just know that God will work for your good if you truly love Him, trust Him, AND allow Him to do so in His own time. My prayers go out to you. -Dave
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 8/12/2008 5:22:41 PM
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 8/12/2008 6:12:43 PM
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ORIGINAL: sindy002 If I've posted this in the wrong area, let me know. About 16 years ago, a young minister and his wife began to visit our church. One night, during testimony service, I overheard the lady testify about how she met her husband. He was interested in her, but she wasn't sure if he was who God wanted her to have or not. She prayed and asked God about it and he showed her the minister she's married too now. They got married and had 3 children. As far as I know, they're still married today. O.K. now here's my situation. After I heard her say that, I decided to pray and ask God to let me meet my husband. Well, some time passed and no husband was to be found. So, I decided to ask God to let me see my husband. Well, my exact words were, "Lord if you're not ready for me to be married yet, will you let me see how he looks"? At the end of that week, I saw a vision of a guy at church, sitting at the offering table with his hand under his cheek, reading a bible. I've never seen the man before in my life. But, I still remember how he looks as if I saw him yesterday. He was a light brown complexion, had a big round face, small facial features, and wore some cute blue glasses. For years I believed that he was my husband. But, one day I told a missionary at my church about the vision. She told me that I needed to focus on God and that he would send me who I needed. To me, she was saying the vision wasn't from God. Well, after that, I started to doubt that God had showed me the vision too. So, I asked him again. After that, I saw four different men. And, all of them looked different. What happened?? I love God with everything in me. And, I know a man could never do for me what God has done. God speaks to me in dreams and shows me some things before they happen. (I'm not a psychic. I'm against that.) But, this thing has me confused. Tell me what happened please. I don't want to be a false prophetess. Sindy~ Do not lose sight of that first vision that God gave you. I believe maybe when you allowed another to interfere with God's work that is why He gave you another vision. You were taking a "mans" opinion over His. In other words you doubted what He showed you. I say this because I was very hurt and broken from a previous marriage, it was totally devistating. I prayed for God to give me a man, looks were not important, but he be a believer, love me for who I was, etc.... That was over 10 y/o. I found this man and get this, he lived only 1 block from me. And the things I said in prayer, this man said to me in person, so I knew without a shadow of a doubt this was the man. BTW: We got married last friday CRH
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 8/12/2008 7:31:04 PM
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Stop worrying about dreams, or visions, or intuition, or messages from God, and go to the one place that is completely trustworthy. God's Word. People are always talking about a word of knowledge, or needing a message from God, or finding God's will, but God has already given us all the knowledge and messages we need. His word is infallable, your visions arent. This may not apply here, but a good rule is, any feelings, emotions, visions, voices, or experiences you have that don't concur with scripture is a lie and not of God.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 8/12/2008 8:44:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: BillBaileyBFAFan His word is infallable, your visions arent. You know what, most of you folks agree with this posters thoughts and it is untrue! I will *never* I mean *never* and yes I am getting personal what God had given me in a vision. I worked 2 jobs, not to mention my wifely and home duties to the loser I was married to. One night I could barely speak and the most that escaped from my lips was Lord is it always going to be like this? He gave me a vision. It started with a bright light and I could see a shadow coming closer. I had no Idea what t was but it was coming closer and I was not afraid. Then I could physically feel my body being lifted and then laid again on my bed. Once I received the *HUG* I looked as stairs appeared and there He was, Jesus walking back up into the light and I said, "Jesus!" He turned and put his fingers to his lips as to say Shhhh! and disappeared into that light! You are trying to tell me that was not from God? He doesn't give visions? Oh ye of little faith! God who will lock up the 99 to find the one lost will go to extremes for the one. I am so tired that if it didn't happen to you it aint real! Sometimes it makes me feel sad that you have God locked up in only 66 books and can't see outside of it! No wonder people who come here are sad and feel hopeless. I seldom see folks rejoicing for others or happy for their blessings. Why can't anyone be happy for Sindy and say, Hey that's great, hope you find him or he comes to you soon. No instead you instead try to crush her vision and spirit! In which for a fact don't know if it came from God or not. Come on folks you are letting rules blind you God is Bigger than the pharasitical rules You go girl CRH
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 8/12/2008 9:02:53 PM
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My guess would be that since you've had multiple visions, then you're going to have to trust that God doesn't want you placing your focus on any particular physcial attributes a man might have. Just wait on God to show you your beloved. He will. And you'll know when He does.
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RE: Visions from God, the devil or me? - 8/13/2008 12:15:21 AM
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Reading this post reminded me of what I was reading yesterday in my bible. Let me quote it. quote:
Numbers 12:4-9 At once the Lord said to Moses, Aaron and Miriam, "Come out to the Tent of the Meeting, all three of you." So the three of them came out. Then the Lord came down in a pillar of cloud; he stood at the entrance to the Tent and summoned Aaron and Miriam. When both of them stepped forward, he said, "Listen to my words: When a prophet of the Lord is among you, I reveal myself to him in visions, I speak to him in dreams. But this is not true of my servant Moses; he is faithful in all my house. With him I speak face to face, clearly and not in riddles; he sees the form of the Lord. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?" Then anger of the Lordburned against them, and he left them. Now, if your spiritual gift is prophecy perhaps the Lord has answered you, he's just done it in a riddle. Sometimes he will lock things away in a riddle to later be interpreted when is meant to be. Josephs dream of the twelve stars and shekels come to mind of a dreams later realized. Perhaps you should ask the Lord to clarify himself to you and he will start to give you the key pieces of interpretation in order to unravel it. If it was nothing then nothing will come to you and you should put it away. If he begins to give you pieces they will stand out to you, you will feel the spirit highlighting these things within you. I've been reading these forums since May of this year. I've read so many threads, so many posts where people DOUBT anything unless it comes from the one form they only choose to follow, The Bible. It's like everyone has tuned their God Radio to one channel and refuse to listen to anything else that might be from the Lord. Yes, do test all things but don't disband anything that you don't understand as 'Not from Him'.
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