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Cephyr13 -> RE: is suicide forgiven? (4/30/2008 3:22:16 PM)
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I'm going to attempt to show how sins affect the physical body through the example of people who have Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD/DID). And I'm not blaming the multiple for their condition. Abuse causes the condition, not the multiple.
I help people with Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD/DID) heal and integrate so that they can become a monomind again by getting all of their alter personalities (alters) combined back into one single mind. MPD comes from abuse at a very young age, usually before 4 yrs old, and this causes the mind to flee the abuse by splitting apart into two pieces, and one piece flees into the spiritual realm where the spirit is, but the other part of the mind (the new personality) stays out in the body and takes the abuse. 1 Thess 5:23 says that we're spirit, soul and body. The soul is the mind, will and emotions. The soul/mind splits in these people and goes to where their spiritual body is instead of their physical body. There must always be a part of the mind in the physical body at all times to keep involuntary functions like breathy and heartbeat going, and that's why the split occurs the way it does, keeping a part of the mind in the body. This new personality has no memories prior to the abuse, because they're "new." They only have memories about the times they are out in the body.
When they're "inside" in the spiritual world, they do not necessarily sense time passing (because there is no time in eternity, the spiritual world). The only time that time passes for them is when they're interacting with our physical world where time exists. What I've just stated can be proven 100%. I have thousands of hours of chat logs with multiples that can easily prove they're in the spiritual world, because regardless of whether they've ever heard of Jesus, angels or demons before, they ALL see them inside this spiritual world they live in when they're not inside the body. They walk around like normal people in that world, and that world always has the same things in it: mountains, valleys, streams, just like this world, but without the industrialization. The angels always look the same, having 2, 4 and 6 wings. The demons are always similar as well. False Jesuses are in that world to deceive. It's amazing what tell see in that world regardless of if they've ever heard of an angel or Christ before.
I say all of that in order to explain this next part. Multiples have TONS of physical problems. Nearly 100% of them have bad eyesight, and they all have tons of diseases like diabetes and MS and all kinds of stuff. The amount of diseases all depends on how many times they were abused and how badly or different each abuse was. Now, when one alter personality (alter) is about in the body, their eyes will be one color, and they may need glasses to see, and they will have low bloodsugar and things like that. But another alter will come out and suddenly, the bloodsugar is normal, the eyesight is normal and glasses are not needed, the eye color changes, and even the bloodtype changes instantly! All due to a different alter personality coming out. Why? Because that alter personality has different sins than the other alter personality, and so they have different illnesses.
Here's how I help multiples. I talk to each alter personality and I tell them about Jesus. I get them to where they want to accept Jesus, and they are born again. Only certain alters can merge or integrate together with one another in a certain order. So, one girl alter may need to merge/integrate with another girl alter. If that is the case, they can do so after they are both saved, and it happens very quickly, and they both become one single person. You keep doing this until all alters are saved, and all alters have integrated into each other. They all exists together at that point and are of one single mind. It's like putting a puzzle together with a lot of different pieces. You can't see the full picture till you've got them all in place. They can't see what it's like to be of one single mind till all their minds are put together. So, they'll repent of their sins and accept Jesus, one by one, and then they'll start integrating together. Once they do, and they become one single mind again, virtually ALL of their sicknesses and diseases go away. Why? Because now, they've gotten rid of their sins and accepted Jesus and they're clean and healed from their past abuses.
The abuse doesn't haunt them anymore. It doesn't scare them. They are completely healed from it and free of it. Their sins are covered by Jesus, and they go on to lead good lives in very good health. It's funny how the medical community doesn't understand this, and they also say they basically can't help multiples. They say it's the least understood mental illness, and they give multiples a 5 - 15 year lifespan once they're diagnosed as multiple, because the trend is that eventually, an alter will come out and commit suicide, because they will have been in therapy for 5 or 10 years and see that they're making no progress and they'll lose hope and end their lives. Of, if psychology would start looking into the spiritual side of things more readily, they could figure out multiplicity and help these people. But psychologists, at large, will never accept that and will not help people heal via Jesus, and so psychologists will never be able to help multiples fully heal and fully integrate.
My point is that once they get all of their sins repented of and accept Jesus and then integrate into a single mind again, the way they were created before they were abused, suddenly, all of their sicknesses go away. Funny how that stuff works... The book I learned from was written by a guy that helped over 100 multiples heal in 4 years working with them through chat. You can find this book to read online for free:
The Shining Man with Hurt Hands by Ellis H. Skolfield
www.fishhouseministries.com/pdf/ShiningMan.pdf
I highly encourage reading the book. You'll learn things about the spiritual realm you never knew and it'll change your perspective on spiritual warfare and how sin and demons can work. The book is mostly chat logs, so it's a quick read. The author explains how MPD/DID works in the first half of the book. And in the second half, he goes through a woman's healing from beginning to end, showing most of the chat logs and just commenting on what's going on from time to time. This lady has 8 alter personalities, and heals and integrates in a matter of 3 months. That's unheard of in psychology. There's one other book I know of about a multiple that healed, and I don't recall the name, but it took the psychologist 20 years to get this multiple healed, because she wasn't doing it the right way and didn't understand what she was doing fully. She only understood that she had to get all of the alters to agree fully and trust each other fully in order to get them to integrate one by one. And for her, because each alter was not saved, it took weeks or sometimes months for two alters to integrate fully, and many integrations would break apart. If the alters are saved/born again, an integration takes only a few minutes and never falls apart. The lady could've been healed in less than a year had the psychologist known what she was doing.
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