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Should Men Have Long Hair?
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 12:11:06 PM
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armydude
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You are kidding. If you are not sure what short is, and if that is the only thing standing between you and obeying God, then err on the short side. I am not kidding. Every rule that I see handed down from the Throne that we must follow has had clear guidelines. Every one. Why would God be purposefully hard to understand if this is such an issue? My point is this. It's not the issue people make it out to be. And once you study the verses as well as why they were written, you'll see that. Go study first, and then tell me what you come up with.quote:
And if nature itself does not teach you that one or two inches, three at most is short - then guys, just go to your hairdresser and say, "I don't want it long, I want it short" and let them cut it. Everyone knows what short is unless they are being deliberately ignorant.
I could easily take offense to this, but I won't. No need. I'm not being deliberately ignorant. I'm trying to draw out a clear answer. According to what I see here, you're suggesting that I take the word of a hairdresser (nothing against hairdresser's) as God's opinion of what short hair should be.
I like Jimbo's answer. Compared to the lion's mane and the horse's, I have a few inches (well more than that for me) to spare.
Now I have to ask you if you're kidding.quote:
Perform this experiment.
Turn on the TV.
Flick from channel to channel and look at men's hair lengths.
Almost without exception men in the world wear their hair "short".
And they do that without any command from the Bible. Thus nature teaches them how to wear their hair.
Yet, on this forum, its a big question. Its milk folks.
Do the experiment. Be honest (you do take that one literally don't you?).
Tell us what you find. Men do wear their hair 1-2 inches long, in general.
There, that was not so hard. You can know. Do you really want people to take their cues from television on how to wear their hair?
I go with this. Wear your hair in the way that's comfortable. After all people have been messing up nature's intended design for centuries, and television is more of the same. Take our cues from television? 
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 12:13:13 PM
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GroupW
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Here's an experiment.
Get a crew cut. Go give $100 bucks to a homeless shelter. Invite an unwed mother to dinner. Tutor an inner city kid. Tell a gay man that God loves him.
Grow your hair 2" longer. Go give $100 bucks to a homeless shelter. Invite an unwed mother to dinner. Tutor an inner city kid. Tell a gay man that God loves him.
Grow your hair 6" longer. Go give $100 bucks to a homeless shelter. Invite an unwed mother to dinner. Tutor an inner city kid. Tell a gay man that God loves him.
Is any one better than the other?
Then grow your hair short. Don't drink alcohol. Don't go to movies, dance, play cards, don't do yoga. Vote republican. Keep the $100 bucks. Let the unwed mother use her food stamps.
How much does it really matter?
"Milk" is hyperfocusing on things that aren't central to the message of God's love and redemption. Meat is getting out there and being Christ to your neighbor.
In my opinion, I see way to much "milk" on CW and not enough of God's kind of meat.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 12:27:57 PM
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Hayseed
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So, the experiment in how we should interpret scripture is based on watching TV and not taking the time to actually read scripture and compare passages in it with each other?
SAD!
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 12:28:27 PM
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This thread reminds me of a song---
She asks me why...I'm just a hairy guy
I'm hairy noon and night; Hair that's a fright.
I'm hairy high and low,
Don't ask me why; don't know!
It's not for lack of bread
Like the Grateful Dead; darling
Gimme a head with hair, long beautiful hair
Shining, gleaming, steaming, flaxen, waxen
Give me down to there, hair!
Shoulder length, longer (hair!)
Here baby, there mama, Everywhere daddy daddy
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I want it long, straight, curly, fuzzy
Snaggy, shaggy, ratty, matty
Oily, greasy, fleecy, shining
Gleaming, steaming, flaxen, waxen
Knotted, polka-dotted; Twisted, beaded, braided
Powdered, flowered, and confettied
Bangled, tangled, spangled and spaghettied!
Rest of lyrics HERE
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 12:28:43 PM
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ORIGINAL: Hayseed
So, the experiment in how we should interpret scripture is based on watching TV and not taking the time to actually read scripture and compare passages in it with each other?
SAD!
Well said Hayseed!
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 12:32:34 PM
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What about those old, powdered wigs men used to wear--the ones pulled back into a ponytail?
It was long hair, but it wasn't theirs.
Does that figure in?
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 12:37:47 PM
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WhiteRoseBlessings
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ORIGINAL: DaveW
This thread reminds me of a song---
She asks me why...I'm just a hairy guy
I'm hairy noon and night; Hair that's a fright.
I'm hairy high and low,
Don't ask me why; don't know!
It's not for lack of bread
Like the Grateful Dead; darling
Gimme a head with hair, long beautiful hair
Shining, gleaming, steaming, flaxen, waxen
Give me down to there, hair!
Shoulder length, longer (hair!)
Here baby, there mama, Everywhere daddy daddy
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I want it long, straight, curly, fuzzy
Snaggy, shaggy, ratty, matty
Oily, greasy, fleecy, shining
Gleaming, steaming, flaxen, waxen
Knotted, polka-dotted; Twisted, beaded, braided
Powdered, flowered, and confettied
Bangled, tangled, spangled and spaghettied!
Rest of lyrics HERE
ROFLOL!!! Now I'm going to be singing that song all day in my head!
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 12:49:36 PM
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ae10u
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ORIGINAL: Hayseed
So, the experiment in how we should interpret scripture is based on watching TV and not taking the time to actually read scripture and compare passages in it with each other?
SAD!
Hayseed
Let us presume that all folks here want to obey all God's commands and suggestions. They are just a little puzzled as to what short hair means.
Let us suppose then that the willing though somewhat puzzled male Christian cuts his hair one or two inches long. Nobody from any generation could call his hair long. Thus, he could feel quite happy that he was fulfilling this command.
There is a far bigger issue at stake here. It is stated in the following verse...
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Now I did not write this.
And hair is a "least commandment".
And another principle kicks in. "because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities." (Luke 19:17)
Everything we do in this life is "very little". But some want to negate it as very unimportant. It may be very little, but it is EXTREMELY important to God, because it tells Him our attitude towards Him. We need to respect, and fear him. If I tell my kid to be home by 11 pm and he disrespects me and comes home whenever he likes - it may be a very little thing to him, but it shows a very big potential problem.
If the worldly menfolk on TV can "naturally" have short hair, are we to abuse the liberty and grace which we have in Christ and have our hair longer, so that from behind, one cannot tell whether the Christian is a male or a female? I say that is a shame. It is a shame that the carnal of the world are better examples in this regard.
Now, I know my popularity stakes are peaking - so I plan to not insult your intelligence by repeating my arguments.
I am a parent so I know when my child is willingly obedient, and when he is looking for every loophole to escape doing what I told him clearly enough to do.
Thankfully Christ was a willing doer of the word and went to the cross - even though He could have argued "But Father God - Abraham, Isaac and a lot of Old Testament folk were saved without the need for my death - I think I will skip crucifixion and concentrate on love. My will be done".
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 12:50:08 PM
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GroupW
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So, the experiment in how we should interpret scripture is based on watching TV and not taking the time to actually read scripture and compare passages in it with each other?
SAD!
Just for emphasis ;)
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 12:54:08 PM
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GroupW
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ORIGINAL: ae10u
There is a far bigger issue at stake here. It is stated in the following verse...
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Dude- if you're right, we're all in a world of trouble. Read the next verse:
20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Taking things verse by verse and not handling the text within the context of the whole of the bible is an exceedingly dangerous thing.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 12:55:50 PM
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Hayseed
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ORIGINAL: Hayseed
So, the experiment in how we should interpret scripture is based on watching TV and not taking the time to actually read scripture and compare passages in it with each other?
SAD!
Hayseed
Let us presume that all folks here want to obey all God's commands and suggestions. They are just a little puzzled as to what short hair means.
Let us suppose then that the willing though somewhat puzzled male Christian cuts his hair one or two inches long. Nobody from any generation could call his hair long. Thus, he could feel quite happy that he was fulfilling this command.
There is a far bigger issue at stake here. It is stated in the following verse...
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Now I did not write this.
And hair is a "least commandment".
And another principle kicks in. "because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities." (Luke 19:17)
Everything we do in this life is "very little". But some want to negate it as very unimportant. It may be very little, but it is EXTREMELY important to God, because it tells Him our attitude towards Him. We need to respect, and fear him. If I tell my kid to be home by 11 pm and he disrespects me and comes home whenever he likes - it may be a very little thing to him, but it shows a very big potential problem.
If the worldly menfolk on TV can "naturally" have short hair, are we to abuse the liberty and grace which we have in Christ and have our hair longer, so that from behind, one cannot tell whether the Christian is a male or a female? I say that is a shame. It is a shame that the carnal of the world are better examples in this regard.
Now, I know my popularity stakes are peaking - so I plan to not insult your intelligence by repeating my arguments.
I am a parent so I know when my child is willingly obedient, and when he is looking for every loophole to escape doing what I told him clearly enough to do.
Thankfully Christ was a willing doer of the word and went to the cross - even though He could have argued "But Father God - Abraham, Isaac and a lot of Old Testament folk were saved without the need for my death - I think I will skip crucifixion and concentrate on love. My will be done".
You're not insulting my intelligence. You're making me question yours, but you're not insulting mine. 
I wondering this: WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT? Honestly, most Christians aren't even doing the big stuff that Jesus commanded us to do, yet they worry about this piddly stuff?!
You're calling may be as a barber.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 1:00:27 PM
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GroupW
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The verse you quote is in the context of the beatitudes.
Now when he saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, and he began to teach them saying: "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
THESE are the commandments I choose to worry about.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 1:05:14 PM
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Hayseed
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For the record: I wear my hair like JimboFletches avatar. So don't think I'm trying justify my stance because I have a dog in the fight.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 1:06:42 PM
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armydude
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For the record: I wear my hair like JimboFletches avatar.
I'm guessing that's because it's comfy... right?
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 1:17:21 PM
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armydude
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You could always do what I do. Slick as a... well... you know.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/29/2008 1:46:07 PM
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Help me here, please . . . what is "bic'd."
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