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OLEEguacamole -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/13/2008 4:57:15 PM)

Jesus did say we are the light of the world. matt 5:14-16. but tolle is on purpose mixing scripture with his deception to give the illusion of validity to the garbage.

the new age path is to be evolving and becoming a higher quality spiritual being. the christian path is to right realationship with Christ and then walking in the Spirit.

oprah often says, there is more than one path...she is talking about the path to love, peace, purposeful living, evolving spiritually. the distinction is the christian path is to GOD. that is why the christian needs the cross and Jesus because our destination is God and we can't get there any other way.



4ChristisLove -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/13/2008 6:25:32 PM)

But it does seem that Oprah thinks that there is more than one way to God. She made the comment that she believed that there was more than one path, what someone may call "the light" another may call "God", but that we all are headed to the same place. I take that she is referring to heaven, right?



OLEEguacamole -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/13/2008 6:34:58 PM)

she actually states; love, peace etc. she is missing, perhaps not understanding, that our path is TO GOD. she says Jesus came to show us how to live. no.....he came to reconcile us to God. spiritual fruit and growth are the result of being reconciled to God, and then following Him.

she also says what YOU call God. God being some undefined spiritual force that is peace, love consciousness etc.

God is not defined in new age as a BEING that has a mind and a precribed way of thinking and dealing with humanity.



tracydolls -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/13/2008 11:59:14 PM)

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Jesus did say we are the light of the world. matt 5:14-16. but tolle is on purpose mixing scripture with his deception to give the illusion of validity to the garbage.


Yeah, but I don't get that sense that that is what they are talking about, they look towards their inner light. It's part of this salvation is me. Maybe, I should've explained better what I was talking about.
Your right it is a mixing of Scripture with junk. In a way I feel sorry for Oprah, but she has her reward now. Living rich. What did you think about what she said changed her, going to Chruch at 27 or 28 she heard "And God is a jealous God" and she thought of me?

I thought of "Thou shall have no other god before me."



OLEEguacamole -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/14/2008 5:10:06 PM)

new age doesn't have a God. there is divine energy and being aware, conscious spiritually to the Divine. the divine is in everything even in every object. It is not a being with a mind and a personality or will. it's just a special wavelength in the universe that you can be or become aware of, (also called salvation, enlightenment etc) awareness of the spiritual energy that we are all one with, all including the stones, cars, couches, cardboard boxes, etc. or you can be unaware, missing the mark(sin),"unconcious".

the new age path is not to God. it denies the existence of God. it redefines "God" as a way of labeling the divine energy of the universe.



lightshineon -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/14/2008 10:28:31 PM)

I feel sorry for her too, she is so far off the narrow way, and dragging others down the path of destruction.
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ORIGINAL: tracydolls

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Jesus did say we are the light of the world. matt 5:14-16. but tolle is on purpose mixing scripture with his deception to give the illusion of validity to the garbage.


Yeah, but I don't get that sense that that is what they are talking about, they look towards their inner light. It's part of this salvation is me. Maybe, I should've explained better what I was talking about.
Your right it is a mixing of Scripture with junk. In a way I feel sorry for Oprah, but she has her reward now. Living rich. What did you think about what she said changed her, going to Chruch at 27 or 28 she heard "And God is a jealous God" and she thought of me?

I thought of "Thou shall have no other god before me."



vixir -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/16/2008 11:49:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WesSavedByGrace

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ORIGINAL: bluestone

thanks![:)]

We need to remember that Oprah is a talk show host. Not a preacher, scientist, or psychologist.


Problem is: when she takes on a theological position and shares it with the public, her accountability takes on a whole new dimension. At that point, she is affecting others' salvation. Scary territory (or should be, anyway)!!!



I laughed when you said Okra. That was pretty good! [:)]

But yeah, this is pretty scary. Isn't she considered the most powerful woman in America? Mainly because of her money and possibly her influence. I tried watching her show many years ago and I didn't last but 5 minutes. Fortunately, it bored me...



lightshineon -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/16/2008 4:10:01 PM)

Her ratings have decreased dramatically, since this, plus her BO, endorsement. I heard this on the news.



RHardin15 -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/18/2008 10:20:48 AM)

This is something I have been very passionately warning people about lately, and I completely agree that Oprah may very well be THE False Prophet, and she is obviously A anti-Christ. But this is the first time I've seen anyone that agreed with me on that outside of a few people in my Church. I think it's best to warn people now and pray that Oprah drops this non-sense and stops misleading people. I'm not jumping to conclusions on the rest of the end-times stuff, because it could be hundreds of years before that happens, but I would keep a close watch on things that happen in the next 4 or 5 years, because I think little details could turn out to be a big deal.



Roberta_ -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/18/2008 11:14:43 AM)

*wondering what her BO means?*

I'm doubting that anyone here can smell her through the tv or a book or magazine.



txhoneydarlin -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/18/2008 12:49:53 PM)

BO = barack obama [;)]

and RHardin, I am in full agreement with you on Oprah being an antichrist. Scripture deems her to be... (1 John 2:18 - 27)



Roberta_ -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/18/2008 12:52:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: txhoneydarlin

BO = barack obama [;)]


Oh thanks! No wonder I was getting it confused with body odor. [;)]



txhoneydarlin -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/18/2008 12:53:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DenimDiva

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ORIGINAL: txhoneydarlin

BO = barack obama [;)]


Oh thanks! No wonder I was getting it confused with body odor. [;)]


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That there just may be siggy worthy... [:D]



Roberta_ -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/18/2008 1:32:24 PM)

You're welcome to it! [:)]



felixmcturk -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/18/2008 3:45:16 PM)

this is what oprah is teaching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA



lightshineon -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/18/2008 11:26:53 PM)

Wow somebody besides me thinks this?
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ORIGINAL: RHardin15

This is something I have been very passionately warning people about lately, and I completely agree that Oprah may very well be THE False Prophet, and she is obviously A anti-Christ. But this is the first time I've seen anyone that agreed with me on that outside of a few people in my Church. I think it's best to warn people now and pray that Oprah drops this non-sense and stops misleading people. I'm not jumping to conclusions on the rest of the end-times stuff, because it could be hundreds of years before that happens, but I would keep a close watch on things that happen in the next 4 or 5 years, because I think little details could turn out to be a big deal.



lightshineon -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/18/2008 11:28:36 PM)

you know hose spot lights on stage can make that BO bad.[sm=icon_smile_faint.gif]
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ORIGINAL: DenimDiva

*wondering what her BO means?*

I'm doubting that anyone here can smell her through the tv or a book or magazine.



Roberta_ -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/19/2008 10:28:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

you know hose spot lights on stage can make that BO bad.[sm=icon_smile_faint.gif]
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ORIGINAL: DenimDiva

*wondering what her BO means?*

I'm doubting that anyone here can smell her through the tv or a book or magazine.



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tracydolls -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/19/2008 12:11:50 PM)

Oprah is getting very powerful with a webcast, she just bought a cable channel, think if Bo gets into office, he's not gonna let anyone say anything to her. I also believe she is the false prophet. She has been setting this up for over 20 years now. Why are people flocking to this? It is sad.



txhoneydarlin -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/19/2008 12:19:23 PM)

Tracy, Just my opinion here - but living a Christian life requires discipline and self-control. We, as Christians, have to live a life according to rules and restrictions which sets us apart from the rest of the world. Oprah's "new religion" makes it all easy - and unfortunately, the way of the world is to look for "an easy out", no matter what it is concerning. Morals and scruples are out the window, especially with the younger generation - many of whom support BO and who flock to Oprah. It is terribly sad to know that they are being deceived, but even sadder that someone who claims Christianity didn't take the time to open her Bible in reference to God being a jealous God - but instead chose to misunderstand what her preacher said and thus set out on a search for something she was more "comfortable" with. Due to her "power" and "influence" in society today, instead of questioning her beliefs, many people blindly follow and adhere to every word she says - and to everything she advises them on - from books to religion to lifestyle choices. [>:]



Nicole_Michelle -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/21/2008 6:49:03 PM)

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So many people are fooled by goodness. They think if someone is nice and say they are a Christian then they are.


I am just joining this thread now...

Just wanted to say that this is so true. And it annoys me when someone is so sure someone is saved because they are nice and say they are a "Christian".

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As I've said before, I don't give a flying flip about anything Oprah Winfrey says; she lost me back when she called God a "she." Anyone who looks to her for their spiritual guidance/education deserves to be deceived. She's a television host for heaven's sake!


I am shocked to find out that Christians were all gung ho about her. [&:] Did they miss most of what she has preached over the years? She is so anti-Christ that it is sad. Just goes to show what money and fame does to a bunch of people. Oprah pretty much can do whatever she wants and she will always have followers.



stampinlady -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/22/2008 9:45:55 AM)

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Christians were all gung ho about he


I would guess that they may either be young in their spiritual growth or not really believers.



txhoneydarlin -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/22/2008 12:15:39 PM)

Deb, I think what you said is the saddest fact of all - before they could become bold in their faith and knowledgeable, she has influenced them to false beliefs. Nearly everyone will take the easy way out when given a choice... [&:]



eaglesfeather -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/22/2008 12:59:37 PM)

Concerning Tolle's books I think they are great reading, but not for every Christian audience. If you can just read a command of Christ how to live and you're capable of flawlessly doing it just because you were told then you need not read anything except scripture itself. Some of us have much more complex brains that always are battling with logic, sinful desire, pain, analysis, etc. etc. and we seek help for dealing with this. This crazy organ in our head can stop us from growing spiritually because we're not blessed with such a simple see it and do it mind. Coming to terms with the logic of how to live with a more stable reality can be beneficial.

While the Tolle's topics are spiritual they are also in a sense scientific. The human brain works against the human in various ways. We as Christians know this to be true because everything we deal with since the fall works against us in some way. The only parts I don't like is when he reminds me that many Buddhist philosophies preceded Christ's identical ones by 500 years.



OLEEguacamole -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (4/22/2008 1:05:49 PM)

tolle also quotes Jesus many times and claims that Jesus is supporting, talking about the same false spiritual principles that tolle is. Jesus words are constantly misconstrued.

tolle mixes in a heavy dose of physchology. how the human personality respnods, reacts, becomes attached to material things, anger, grief etc. this is the very thing that gives tolles words a feeling of authenticity. but he he's leading very deliberately down a destructive, false spiritual path.



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