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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 3:42:02 AM   
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Concerning addressing others: I embarrassed a saleslady a few days ago by calling her "ma'am," which is a standard polite "title" I use everywhere with women of all ages (and even some girls who are old enough to work, say 15+ yo.)



I was called ma'am a lot when I visited Texas, and understood that they were just being polite, but personally didn't like it at all. It sometimes happens in stores here too in the UK, and I don't like it here either, makes me cringe.

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 3:59:06 AM   
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"you alright?"


I wonder if that translates to "How do you do?"

When I was a kid, we used Mr., Mrs. or Miss. Aunt or Uncle, if they were sbilings of the parents or close friends of the family. Professionals were addressed as Dr. Smith, Officer Smith, Pastor Smith, etc. I'm surprised at how many kids don't even think of addressing adults that way anymore.
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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 6:17:17 AM   
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Really? I figured I'd have to defend it to everyone. I usually have to offer proof when I get on my nutritional soap box!

You have no need to defend it to me ~ it was a great post!

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How do you normally address another adult when you first meet them? How does your youth address adults?
I tell people what I would prefer them to call me and frequently correct them if they abreviate my first name, because I didn't introduce myself in that way. Most of the children that I know call me by my first name too ~ at m choice, but also I do look at what their parents want them to call me.

My name was prefixed by 'Miss' when I was in GA and I couldn't stand it. Don't much go for 'Ma'am' either.

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 6:18:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DenimDiva
I wonder if that translates to "How do you do?"


Probably! 'How do you do?" is more the sort of thing that people of my parents' generation (and older) would say. My husband, being from the North of England, still sometimes says a regional variant of 'How do you do?" which is just "How do?" - which my dd tells him off about because she says it sounds weird, lol.

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When I was a kid, we used Mr., Mrs. or Miss. Aunt or Uncle, if they were sbilings of the parents or close friends of the family. Professionals were addressed as Dr. Smith, Officer Smith, Pastor Smith, etc.


Aunt and Uncle are used here, and GPs would be called Dr. so-and-so. Also police officers would be called by their rank (PC, Sergeant etc). At church my children call every adult by their first name. And nobody calls our pastors Pastor John or Pastor Chris, it's just John or Chris.

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 6:59:35 AM   
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Spoiler alert! The Mortons are leaving Weatherfield "soon".


I just read that last night! What a story line they get before their exit!!!

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Concerning addressing others: I embarrassed a saleslady a few days ago by calling her "ma'am," which is a standard polite "title" I use everywhere with women of all ages


My mom hates being called by ma'am. I told her to get to used to it. At one restaurant the server kept calling me ma'am. I asked her how old she was, she said 21. My reply, "can you please stop calling me ma'am? We're the same age." I know it was just habit for her. She laughed about it though.

I still call older adults by Mr. or Mrs. I have a hard time with some people who are friends of my parents, because now they insist I call them by their first name, and it's strange for me to do so.

Dd isn't old enough to use people's names yet, but we will be having our children call adults by "Miss" or "Mr" and then either their first name or last name, depending on what they prefer. Close friends are Auntie or Uncle. Church people are Sister or Brother.

The girl who manages our Blockbuster had a good laugh the other day when she gave Dd some stickers and I said "can you say thank you to Miss Angela?" She had never had anyone call her that, but I don't know her last name and I don't want Dd getting used to calling her by just her first name. (We go to this Blockbuster a lot, so we know each other pretty well and always talk.)

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 7:56:15 AM   
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Manda, I always like Maa'm when I was in the US - reminded me of the Waltons!! (just as I reminded some of the locals of princess Diana )


Now what I really don't like is where they use your real name Mrs XXX because they've read it on your credit card. One particular DIY store like to do this and I hate it, it's just too familiar.
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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 8:48:45 AM   
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Woo hoo!! Welcome Henrietta's Cat!! Better late than never!! LOL

Hey everyone! It's another Brit!

(have you read all of the other 60 pages yet? )

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 9:08:30 AM   
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Lol, no. I 'll go and put the kettle on!

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 4:27:48 PM   
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Manda, I always like Maa'm when I was in the US - reminded me of the Waltons!! (just as I reminded some of the locals of princess Diana )


I didn't know you are a Brit. Me thinks we're starting to get outnumbered now!


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Now what I really don't like is where they use your real name Mrs XXX because they've read it on your credit card. One particular DIY store like to do this and I hate it, it's just too familiar.


Even when I worked at Wal Mart we were required to show professionalism and address them as Mr. or Mrs. Even in laid-back California, when I walk into my bank they call me Mrs. _____.

agapetos- sorry that it bothered you to be called Miss Aga and Miss Agapetos while you were here.
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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 5:04:22 PM   
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I was thinking of apologizing for the following answer...but nah - y'all can handle it

My children referred to adults who were close friends as Miss or Mr. "first name". That's just what we do around here. First name is far to familiar for a child to call an adult and Mr./Mrs. Jones is far too formal for such close friends.

Now that they are older, they can refer to them by just their first name.

I address elderly women and men with Ms. or Mr. "first name" out of respect - it's just what we do.

I am addressed at my bank by my first name.
I am addressed at Wal-Mart by m'am or whatever they say - half the time I can't understand them anyway.

Yes, in the south we do have some peculiarities.

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 5:48:24 PM   
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My name was prefixed by 'Miss' when I was in GA and I couldn't stand it.



Gosh, I'd forgotten about that one. That happened to me in TX too.
I couldn't stand it either. I will try and put it into words and post again later.

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 6:49:00 PM   
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I think Pastors should be called "Pastor so and so". It's respect for them and the huge responsibility they hold.

I have a question for the Americans. Why are buffalo wings called that when they are chicken?

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 7:14:06 PM   
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I think Pastors should be called "Pastor so and so". It's respect for them and the huge responsibility they hold.


I agree with that. I've noticed a tendency lately for people to just call them by their first name. Might as well just start calling our Drs by their first name too.
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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 8:44:52 PM   
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I've noticed a tendency lately for people to just call them by their first name.


I don't see the point of calling them Pastor so-and-so if they would rather be called by their first names!

Our pastors want to be accessible and approachable, not elevated above everyone else.
They see themselves as servants, serving God and serving us, and prefer the informality of being called by their first names.

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Might as well just start calling our Drs by their first name too.


Actually, we do call two of the doctors at our GP practice by their first names. And a GP who attends our church is known by his first name there, even by members of the congregation who are his patients.

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 9:05:11 PM   
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I think Pastors should be called "Pastor so and so". It's respect for them and the huge responsibility they hold.


Our pastor likes for us to call him "Pastor Jim", even the kids. I do make sure they do call him "Pastor" when referring to him.

As a southerner I have to call people "mam" and "sir". If I don't , my daddy will come up out of the ground and get me!!!!
It's the way I was raised, can't change now.
As far as my kids go, on close friends, they call them by their first name with Miss or Mr in front. If it's someone we are not close to, it's Mr. or Mrs. or Miss followed by their last name.


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I have a question for the Americans. Why are buffalo wings called that when they are chicken?


It's the sauce that are on them. Maybe someone else knows about the origins and will enlighten us.

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 9:13:10 PM   
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Maybe someone else knows about the origins and will enlighten us.


Ooooh...pick me, pick me!

Buffalo wings were created first in Buffalo, NY. HERE

And yes, the term refers to the sauce, not the wing.


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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 9:20:45 PM   
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Maybe someone else knows about the origins and will enlighten us.


Ooooh...pick me, pick me!


Buffalo wings were created first in Buffalo, NY. HERE

And yes, the term refers to the sauce, not the wing.



OK you're picked!!!

thanks for the link

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 9:52:42 PM   
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I think Pastors can still be accessible and servant like even if the "Pastor" is infront of their name, that sounds kind of like a silly reason to me. I think they need to be respected for their position, just like a teacher, doctor etc.

Thanks Donna!!!

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 10:14:50 PM   
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I think Pastors should be called "Pastor so and so". It's respect for them and the huge responsibility they hold.


I agree with that. I've noticed a tendency lately for people to just call them by their first name. Might as well just start calling our Drs by their first name too.


We do call our senior pastor "Pastor Greg", but all the rest of the pastors just go by their first name. It's their choice though, not just everyone being disrespectful.

Oh, and I do call my GP and then GYN NP that I see by their first names


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I think Pastors can still be accessible and servant like even if the "Pastor" is infront of their name, that sounds kind of like a silly reason to me. I think they need to be respected for their position, just like a teacher, doctor etc.

Thanks Donna!!!


It's not silly if it is what they request. When my Dad was pastoring he asked that people just call him by his first name. I think it would have been disrespectful for them not to listen to his wishes.

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 10:31:22 PM   
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Yep Ryanne if they don't want to be called that its fine, I just guess I have been taught differently, and have heard pastors speak about this (FIL, other friends who are pastors) that sometimes pastors who don't want the title can be ones who don't want all the responsibilty either. But that's their opinion and another topic :)

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/3/2008 10:39:04 PM   
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Or they are just ones who seem themselves as peers with their "sheep" and don't need to stroke their ego and elevate themselves above the rest of the congregation. Jesus didn't walk around wearing a fancy title, neither did the disciples.

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/4/2008 4:51:36 AM   
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The lady at the corner shop calls me 'chick'. It is a local term. It doesn't mean 'sexy babe' it's just a friendly term like 'dear' or 'mate'and might be used on any female stranger or youngster (young chicken?).

When I lived in the South West the equivalent would have been 'duck', 'my flower' or 'maid' (short for maiden).

'Love' is also used a lot accross the sexes but has nothing to do with someone coming on to you. In my village my aging neighbour who had a very thick West Country accent always used to greet me "Alright my lover" - translation - "are you feeling fine today".

I don't mind those at all. I consider them a part of our English heritage which we should hold on to for as long as possible.

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/4/2008 5:37:37 AM   
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When I lived in the South West the equivalent would have been 'duck', 'my flower' or 'maid' (short for maiden).
I've lived in the south west for nearly a decade and haven't heard anyone being referred to as 'duck'.

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I don't mind those at all. I consider them a part of our English heritage which we should hold on to for as long as possible.
On the whole, I don't mind ~ I did blast one of my deputy managers because he never called women by name but used terms like 'darling', 'my love', 'lover' etc but referred to men by name.

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RE: Question from a Brit to any Y... umm American - 7/4/2008 8:51:09 AM   
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The lady at the corner shop calls me 'chick'. It is a local term. It doesn't mean 'sexy babe' it's just a friendly term like 'dear' or 'mate'and might be used on any female stranger or youngster (young chicken?).


I guess it's like "chuck" (pronounced "chook" - rhyming with took) up North.

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When I lived in the South West the equivalent would have been 'duck', 'my flower' or 'maid' (short for maiden).


Whereabouts in the South West was that? I've heard the comedian Bill Bailey use those words when he's doing a yokel-type of voice, and he's from Bath.

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'Love' is also used a lot accross the sexes but has nothing to do with someone coming on to you. In my village my aging neighbour who had a very thick West Country accent always used to greet me "Alright my lover" - translation - "are you feeling fine today".


Yes, I've heard that in Cornwall, when on holiday.

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I don't mind those at all. I consider them a part of our English heritage which we should hold on to for as long as possible.


I think these regional things are also very quaint, and I am fond of even the ones that slightly jar on me, if that makes any sense.

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