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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/11/2008 4:22:22 PM
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ddsisson
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Don't ever think that you might accidentally wreck your child's future
That is the ONE thing I am MOST worried about at this juncture in my ds's live(as a junior).
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/11/2008 6:00:34 PM
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Don't ever think that you might accidentally wreck your child's future
That is the ONE thing I am MOST worried about at this juncture in my ds's live(as a junior).
OK- if you make him wear dresses and high heels in public or powder his donuts with arsenic, then MAYBE you will ruin his life. Otherwise, any conscientious parent who takes a little bit of time to educate themselves about what is needed for college or career, and who helps their child find their talents and abilities is light years ahead of the rest of the world.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/11/2008 7:27:29 PM
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I have checked the requirements for the most difficult colleges and will make sure those are covered to be sure that she can go wherever she wants to. Cynthia - How did you go about this? Are there some websites you can recommend? I'm not even sure where we'll be living when my kids graduate, so I'd like to make sure they can get in to a variety of schools also!
Let me rephrase that. Our state Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction has a web site. They list what the requirements are to get a state diploma. They also have a list that shows what is required to get into college, which is more than what is required for a diploma. Washington State credit requirments.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/11/2008 8:08:42 PM
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Thanks so much for the info! The websites you mentioned are really helpful! 
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/11/2008 8:19:41 PM
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Don't ever think that you might accidentally wreck your child's future
That is the ONE thing I am MOST worried about at this juncture in my ds's live(as a junior).
What are your specific concerns? What are his plans for the future?
You listed these items:
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Bible-just church/youth group studies (last year and this year mission trip)
Math-Saxon Adv Math(I have looked into TT, but at the time is/was to $$ for out budget) and BJ Consumer Math
Science-Apologia Chem
English/LA-LLATL Gold-Brit Lit
Foreign Lang-Latin/Spanish Rosetta Stone
History-Abeka/Beautiful Feet US History
Electives-Auto Mechanics(self taught, working on his Truck), and some others.
Has he done any algebra yet? If not, is he ready for algebra?
It looks like you are doing fine this year. Is this what a typical year has looked like since 9th grade?
How I am approaching this issue is that I want all of my children to have the option available to go to college. Their classes are being designed around that presumption.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/12/2008 6:42:04 AM
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I have a question for ya....
If a 7th grader can get a high school credit by doing algebra,
then... lets say... can a 9th grader get a high school credit if they did a 7- 8th grade History course?? I am curious as to what qualifies a credit other than hours? I am asking because....
#1 Sometimes homeschoolers combine subjects with other students in different grades
#2 What if your child is at grade level in many things, but maybe still working and plugging away in a younger book in one subject
#3 One time I ordered some used curriculum for my DD, it was gr 6. I ordered it from a mom who wrote Grade 9 on the top of the books.... if this mom was using this for her 9th grader, would it still be considered a high school credit?
I also have another question...
In figuring out grades for highschool, what will you be grading??? Will you be testing in every subject? Are there any websites that help with knowing how to grade writing assignments?
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/12/2008 8:18:55 AM
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I have a question for ya....
If a 7th grader can get a high school credit by doing algebra,
then... lets say... can a 9th grader get a high school credit if they did a 7- 8th grade History course?? I am curious as to what qualifies a credit other than hours? I am asking because....
#1 Sometimes homeschoolers combine subjects with other students in different grades
#2 What if your child is at grade level in many things, but maybe still working and plugging away in a younger book in one subject
#3 One time I ordered some used curriculum for my DD, it was gr 6. I ordered it from a mom who wrote Grade 9 on the top of the books.... if this mom was using this for her 9th grader, would it still be considered a high school credit?
Credits are supposed to be given for completing courses that are considered high school grade level. That means they could be earning high school credits in one subject even if they are not on that level in another subject.
However, I don't use textbooks for subjects such as history and science. What I have done is compile a reading list and a set of skills/objectives that I have deemed appropriate for high school level work. Quite frankly, it is probably college level work, but to answer your question specifically- No- I would not give a credit for completing a course using a 7-8th grade text.
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I also have another question...
In figuring out grades for highschool, what will you be grading??? Will you be testing in every subject? Are there any websites that help with knowing how to grade writing assignments?
I 'grade' based on mastery of the material and completed assignments and projects. I keep those projects and assignments that are comprehensive enough to be considered 'tests' as proof of the work completed.
As for grading writing assignments, I base the grade on the quality of the material presented, correct grammar/punctuation, and if it is handwritten, on neatness.
Here are some links that might help
10 Universities Offering Free Writing Courses Online
WriteAtHome
WriteGuide
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/12/2008 10:33:09 AM
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Thanks for those websites!!!! I REALLY appreciate it. Spelling and Writing are two subjects that I plan to keep my children doing during the summer. I am not very good at writing myself, and trying to learn the correct usage of grammar sometimes feels like trying to teach an old dog new tricks. I'm not sure if I would do a very good job grading a writing assignment!
With the History.... I still wanted DD to continue with The Mystery of History Volumes. I know she could do this with us or on her own, but I guess it wouldn't be able to be used as a High School Text though.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/12/2008 11:01:20 AM
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I still wanted DD to continue with The Mystery of History Volumes. I know she could do this with us or on her own, but I guess it wouldn't be able to be used as a High School Text though.
I'm not sure about that Annie. The author does include activities for Upper Grades & I always assumed this was High School. I bet you could contact her & ask her about counting it as a high school course. There are quizzes/tests & writing assignments, so there would be things to base a grade on.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/12/2008 11:57:52 AM
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It is important, if your child is considering college, to make sure the materials you are using would be considered high school level.
Make some contacts at your local university/college- talk to some professors and other staff, soak up what info you can and make some friends. Like I said, you don't have to wait until their senior year to start gathering info and networking. Your kids will gain some insight as well into the college process and become familiar with your local campus. Even if they go to college out-of-state, their comfort level will give them confidence.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/13/2008 8:58:38 AM
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Make some contacts at your local university/college- talk to some professors and other staff, soak up what info you can and make some friends. Like I said, you don't have to wait until their senior year to start gathering info and networking. Your kids will gain some insight as well into the college process and become familiar with your local campus. Even if they go to college out-of-state, their comfort level will give them confidence. I'm going to work on this Sunnymom. Thanks for the advice! We live in a college town, but will most likely move before either of mine reach college age. I actually already know several people at the college. Maybe, I can make this one of our goals for the summer.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/13/2008 9:42:14 PM
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Don't ever think that you might accidentally wreck your child's future
That is the ONE thing I am MOST worried about at this juncture in my ds's live(as a junior).
What are your specific concerns? What are his plans for the future?
You listed these items:
Specific concerns are: is he doing enough? what about the things that are a bit difficult(that I haven't done)how can I help him with this? Especially with limited funds to get outside help. I know... you say ask for other homeschoolers help. The thing is I feel as that would be a burden to them, as they have there own children to HS. He says he wants to do something with either computers and/or automechanics.
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Bible-just church/youth group studies (last year and this year mission trip)
Math-Saxon Adv Math(I have looked into TT, but at the time is/was to $$ for out budget) and BJ Consumer Math
Science-Apologia Chem
English/LA-LLATL Gold-Brit Lit
Foreign Lang-Latin/Spanish Rosetta Stone
History-Abeka/Beautiful Feet US History
Electives-Auto Mechanics(self taught, working on his Truck), and some others.
Has he done any algebra yet? If not, is he ready for algebra?
It looks like you are doing fine this year. Is this what a typical year has looked like since 9th grade?
How I am approaching this issue is that I want all of my children to have the option available to go to college. Their classes are being designed around that presumption.
Yes he has done Alg 1 and Alg 2 using Saxon. 9th grade year was basically the same, but last year was light due to alot of family issues(me going back to work PT, my surgery[lack of energy and getting back to normal physically], my maternal grandfather having cancer and then him passing and then my paternal grandfather passing from complications from Parkinsons)
ETA: He took an assessment test (because he hadn't taken the PSAT or SAT at the time)at IVY Tech(a local Community College) and the said that he was ready for College Alg and as far as for Reading/Composition he was one step below College Level(kind of like if you were entering college FT a remedial course-which considering he took this assessment at the beginning of his Jr year, I thought it was pretty good.)
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/13/2008 9:55:06 PM
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ddsisson
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I am not very good at writing myself...I'm not sure if I would do a very good job grading a writing assignment!
This is my problem as well. I have looked into the WriteAtHome and I loved it, but because of the cost we can not enroll(maybe this next fall).
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/13/2008 10:10:38 PM
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I feel like I don't have a whole lot to contribute here, even though I've graduated 2 kids and have another at high school level, because we don't do anything specifically different for high school. We set goals and work to accomplish them, usually without using textbooks - pretty much as Sunnymom outlined in her post above.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/13/2008 11:50:22 PM
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Specific concerns are: is he doing enough? what about the things that are a bit difficult(that I haven't done)how can I help him with this? Especially with limited funds to get outside help. I know... you say ask for other homeschoolers help. The thing is I feel as that would be a burden to them, as they have there own children to HS. He says he wants to do something with either computers and/or automechanics.
Couple ideas here. First off, he should be writing often. The frequency of it alone will help improve his writing. Secondly, pray that the Lord will lead you specifically to what He wants you to use. I can’t tell you how many times I have prayed for very specific things and the Lord has provided in amazing ways. Someone lent me two levels of Math-U-See that I needed. I was amazed and in awe of how the Lord uses His people to bless each other. Are you having him do any writing? Even if you are unsure of how to grade him or teach him, you can use a simple program and have him write often. You can also have him do copy work where he copies the work of other authors. That is one way that Benjamin Franklin used to learn good writing. He would then take the item he copied and outline it, then re-write it in his own words. That might be too much, but to begin with copy work to learn what good writing looks like and then for him to learn to outline and write his own works is a good starting place. Don’t worry too much about how good either you or he are, just get him writing. You will be able to read it and tell where he needs work. There is a good article on writing on Crosswalk. Click here.
Another thing you might consider is having a co-op. You choose a subject to teach that you are good at and willing to teach, in exchange for another parent teaching writing.
My daughter took a writing class from a local home school mom who decided to put together a class. She charged $25 for a once a week class that lasted like six weeks. I thought that was a great deal. If you belong to a home school group, you could ask if anyone was using the Excellence in Writing Program and would like to teach a class for $25 per student. In our area, she got ten or fifteen students. If she taught six classes, that worked out to more than $25 a class, which is good pocket money. You might find someone willing to do a class for a very reasonable fee like that.
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Yes he has done Alg 1 and Alg 2 using Saxon. 9th grade year was basically the same, but last year was light due to alot of family issues(me going back to work PT, my surgery[lack of energy and getting back to normal physically], my maternal grandfather having cancer and then him passing and then my paternal grandfather passing from complications from Parkinsons)
ETA: He took an assessment test (because he hadn't taken the PSAT or SAT at the time)at IVY Tech(a local Community College) and the said that he was ready for College Alg and as far as for Reading/Composition he was one step below College Level(kind of like if you were entering college FT a remedial course-which considering he took this assessment at the beginning of his Jr year, I thought it was pretty good.)
He’s doing fine in math. Just keep moving forward.
If he’s not ready for college reading and comprehension, he needs more reading and comprehension work at home. That’s not hard to do. Sit down with him and discuss his need for improvement in this area and make a plan together.
I understand what it’s like to have one tragedy after another happen in your family. Over the last five years it seemed like one thing after another; from death to poverty and back. So far this year has been a lot better than any year in the last five. Hopefully this trend will continue.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/14/2008 7:35:11 AM
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My advice, ddsisson? Start Googling! 
Seriously, there are literally hundreds of home education websites and blogs out there, with links to other helpful websites and resources you can find at your library.
Here are a few links that I have in my bookmarks that might help you see how much FREE stuff is available and encourage you a bit. You would find these sites as well if you did a Google search of "high school writing"
High School English/Writing- http://www.homeworkspot.com/high/english/
Writing in College- http://writing-program.uchicago.edu/resources/collegewriting/index.htm
Online Writing Lab (with links to get help in technical writing) http://owl.english.purdue.edu/internet/resources/genre.html
Newspapers in Education- http://litsite.alaska.edu/workbooks/highnewswrite.html
Also, there is a Blog Carnival of Homeschooling every week, hosted at different blogs. Here is the link to a Google search of past carnivals, and here is the schedule for current and upcoming carnivals, and I HIGHLY recommend that you look through them to get some help and encouragement. Many, if not most of the links and resource recommendations I have used have been from reading a homeschooling blog.
Side note: I have yet to meet a homeschooler, no matter how busy, who would resent or regard as an annoying intrusion another homeschooler who needed a bit of help. This forum is a great place to get help and advice and support, there are hundreds of blogs where you can read, ask questions, and get advice, and I am sure that those you know locally would be glad to help as well.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/14/2008 8:43:10 AM
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Are you having him do any writing?
Yes, whatever goes with the LLATL Gold-British Lit.
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You can also have him do copy work where he copies the work of other authors.
That is why we chose LLATL from the get go(he has always used that from the 4th grade on.
The LLATL books are set up along the guidelines of Ruth Beechick(sp) 3R's books.
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You will be able to read it and tell where he needs work.
That is where we are...I know to tell him his work is good, but needs improvement, but how he needs to improve it is is the big ????(I'll say it looks good, but you need to tweak it a bit, he'll ask HOW and I am at a loss for words)
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Another thing you might consider is having a co-op. You choose a subject to teach that you are good at and willing to teach, in exchange for another parent teaching writing.
We have had co-ops in the past, but none this year(I am pres of our group this year and sent out a survey at the end of last year to find interests, everyone wanted "something" but was only willing to "help" and not lead a class).
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If he’s not ready for college reading and comprehension
It was Composition NOT Comprehension. His main problem with the reading part is the vocabulary, meaning definitions of words. Comprehension overall was/is good and he is a good reader.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/14/2008 11:35:57 AM
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If he’s not ready for college reading and comprehension
It was Composition NOT Comprehension. His main problem with the reading part is the vocabulary, meaning definitions of words. Comprehension overall was/is good and he is a good reader.
Hm. Maybe I was the one having trouble with comprehension.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/15/2008 2:27:51 PM
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Let me just say, I am a homeschool graduate, and the best thing my mom did for me was help me get college credits at the public high school. I entered college with 42 credits of AP history, writing, and literature. I would like to let all the homeschool moms out there know that this was the best decision for my education that my parents made! AND, no, I didnt have a social culture clash or anything, I made lots of great friends at high school my senior year, and was able to witness to many of my friends.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/17/2008 10:58:14 AM
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We are starting high school for the first time in the Fall!
History, Bible, Literature, Composition, Art - *
Konos History of the World I, in 3 semesters
Language Arts - *
Easy Grammar Plus
Math - Algebra
right now doing "Key To Algebra"
starting Principles from Patterns or Math U See Algebra when finished
Science - at co-op
Apologia Physical Science
Extras at co-op- based on financial situation at the time.
Acting
Sports
Art
I plan to use Homeschool Tracker for record-keeping. (free download, PC only)
I have ordered the "Senior High A Home Designed: Form+U+LA" book ($24.99 @CBD) for planning further, thanks for all of the suggestions in this forum!
*I just edited after reading the Teacher's Manual for Konos HOW. I find that there is so much research and composition that I don't need to do another Language Arts except for grammar since we haven't finished this book yet.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/17/2008 11:25:14 AM
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PnJnKids - Thanks for posting about hs tracker! I had forgotten that I really want to check it out before ds hits high school!! I know others on here use it & really like it!
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/17/2008 12:07:40 PM
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PnJnKids - Thanks for posting about hs tracker! I had forgotten that I really want to check it out before ds hits high school!! I know others on here use it & really like it!
We use it Amy and LOVE IT!!!
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/17/2008 7:44:50 PM
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This all seems so intimidating to me, not sure why... my DD is 13 - 7th grade. I want to use a comprehensive curriculum so I can be sure that I do not miss anything. This year we are kinda "winging it" with a mix of curriculum, but I do not feel that it is challenging enough, and when I give assignments outside of what we are studying, they get put off and not done. But on the other hand, I want to be able to supplement or add on, without overwhelming her (and my DS who is 2 years younger). I also worry about the flexibility of subjects like math, as both kids are ahead of their "grade" level.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/17/2008 10:14:45 PM
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This all seems so intimidating to me, not sure why... my DD is 13 - 7th grade. I want to use a comprehensive curriculum so I can be sure that I do not miss anything. This year we are kinda "winging it" with a mix of curriculum, but I do not feel that it is challenging enough, and when I give assignments outside of what we are studying, they get put off and not done. But on the other hand, I want to be able to supplement or add on, without overwhelming her (and my DS who is 2 years younger). I also worry about the flexibility of subjects like math, as both kids are ahead of their "grade" level.
I have used the eighth grade to prepare for high school. At the beginning of the year, I made an Excel worksheet to keep track of assignments. This has been extremely helpful. I go week to week. I am not one of those people who can use a planner at the beginning of the year and call it good. My planner would be an inch thick in white out. I have tried to have a more challenging year than previously and have mostly succeeded. It hasn't hurt her any. In fact, she's done very well and I'm pleased with how things have gone. This is the first year that I've graded her and she is aware that next year her grades will be on her permanent record. This has worked quite well for us and I feel pretty confident about beginning high school next year.
Why are the additional assignments being put off and not completed?
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/17/2008 11:01:03 PM
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Why are the additional assignments being put off and not completed?
It seems that they enjoy the "together" type of work (doing many subject together, math separate), but when I ask them to do an extra assignment, it does not happen. We decided to start a family newspaper, and they both know what their "jobs" are, but keep dragging their feet on getting them done. I told them that I want them to get TWO articles done today, and they did, but I am sick, and if I am not "riding" them, then they just ignore the assignment.
I realize that I need to just put it on their agenda, and tell them that they are not done with school until it is done. I have been giving them an afternoon break, "hoping" that they will get the work done later. Ha Ha
< Message edited by misaham -- 3/17/2008 11:12:32 PM >
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