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freakofnature -> RE: Secular Bands OK? (5/1/2008 11:11:43 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Rufas2000
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That's prolly just your taste in music?
Yeah, a style that is disagreeable to ones ears will not produce a blissful feeling, regardless of how well it is done. Of course if it is given a chance it could become agreeable. Some styles are acquired tastes, especially when coupled with a "conflicting" background. Example: being brought up in the modern day with the majority of music one hears is pop and rock might make gospel appear to be flat, lifeless (again to them) and / or "uncool". doesn't get their blood flowing so to speak.
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But you stated that you don't mind secular music that doesn't have a real negative message. I am not familiar with secular music that has much of a positive message. Can you enlighten me? I get that there are some bands out there that just sing about "just stuff" but overall it all (and don't miss my point, I am talking about modern day popular or at least "of the day" stuff, not Mozart or Bach) but it all either seems negative or basically pornographic.
What do you mean by negative? Is negative meaning that the lyrics encourage the listener to engage in anti social activities that could harm themselves or others? Perhaps cultivating extremely negative thought patterns? By that definition there are many secular songs / artists that are neither pornographic (I'm with you on that one BTW, Gaye & White did it right, the rest needn't bother LOL) or "negative" (by that definition).
If negative means that the lyrics have a dark world view then sad to say that's true. Perhaps you don't agree but the world is a dark, bleak place right now. Hedonism runs supreme, wars are raging all over the place, crazy people have access to stuff that can kill hundreds in an instant, the moral structure of this country is decaying, fewer and fewer people control more and more resources (money, media, business etc.). Of course there is a place for artists that emphasize the positive (escapism can be good) but to be honest if most "serious" lyrics were positive and happy I would have a big problem with the disconnect from reality and absolute cluelessness of it all.
I can't think of any well known examples at the moment but there is much music around where the lyrics provide some hope in the cold hard reality of our dark world today. I would start with many of the retro metal bands from Europe. Also, although I don't enjoy listening to Nickelback, Alterbridge, 3 Doors Down, Three Days Grace, Staind etc. many of their songs have positive messages like "If Everybody Cared" (its a Nickelback song, I'm not sure the name, its Nickelback so it isn't important LOL) or "Never Too Late" by Three Days Grace or "For You" by Staind (the expression of a teen's angst with their parents).
I think I concur. I know there are some songs by groups, (Nickleback btw I put into the porno cat. man some of the stuff I have heard from them.. Oh and I hate... hate that song "Wanna be Big Rock Stars ughh, puke) Anyway back on track, for me, the bottom line is that they may be positive messages, but they don't necissarily point to Christ as the only hope they really have. And for me the Teen angst thing, I get it that you are 19 and you hate your dad, but that is empty and in the long run, I don't think it is beneficial to sing about it. I know it "relates" to what is really going on, and "Speaks" to many a teenager but again that doesn't really point in the right direction. Cool though I see your point and I raise you mine. Thanks
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