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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/15/2008 4:18:08 PM
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stamper_ben
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It'd be a fat "person".
Or is that "overweight"....
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/15/2008 4:34:04 PM
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It'd be a fat "person".
Or is that "overweight"....
In today's PC culture it would be "mass challenged"
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/15/2008 5:03:39 PM
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Thats right i am from a small town. I grew up in a small town. And we do cling to our guns and our religon. Maybe Obama should find a Bible based church. My prayers to Obama that he can find it in his heart to follow the Holy Bible. And listen to what God would have him do. We need to pray for all the canidates to follow God.
When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
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Let us get back to the Holy Bible put it back in our schools after all it is the best written history book of all times.
Thank you for this. It says it all when our prayer is that all the candidates follow God's Will. What an honor to pray for those in authority and those seeking authority. It is a command from our Heavenly Father not a suggestion, to pray for our leaders.
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/15/2008 5:15:03 PM
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Maybe Obama should find a Bible based church. My prayers to Obama that he can find it in his heart to follow the Holy Bible. And listen to what God would have him do. We need to pray for all the canidates to follow God.
When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
Prov 29:2 (KJV)
Let us get back to the Holy Bible put it back in our schools after all it is the best written history book of all times.
No matter what we once were, We are no longer just a Christian nation, we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.” - Barack Hussein Obama
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/15/2008 5:59:16 PM
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P31W
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In today's PC culture it would be "mass challenged"
LOL I just had to tell the guys in the office that one!!!
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/15/2008 6:15:05 PM
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Maybe someone has already commented on this.
One of the reasons Obama has such a hard time relating to others is because he's basically been out of touch his whole life. He was raised in Hawaii and Indonesia. Then went to Harvard. There is nothing about those 20+ years of life that someone from a small town in Pennsylvania has in common with that. There is basically nothing in those 20+ years that could have taught him about what most Americans live like. Then add in the nutty rev. Wrong and you not only know nothing about middle America, but now you have contempt for it.
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/15/2008 7:06:04 PM
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Now he's saying those who refer to him as "elitest" are really trying to say he's uppity.
Wow. How condescending. That was actually the comment I used for his comment about small towns not elitest but condscending. And he condescends to us again.
Btw, the word uppity or anything in it's proximity wasn't anywhere in my thoughts. He can read small town Americans minds too.
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/15/2008 10:10:12 PM
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relady
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I wonder if Obama meant that rural folk cling to guns and religion not out of ignorance, but because the failings of the government have only left them with their firearms and churches? When the people lose everything they have of course they are going to cling desperately to the few things in life that they have left.
Gee, that is immediately what I thought. And then the tempest in a teapot began. I still think that's what he meant and it just came out wrong to people who just need to find fault.
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 8:01:07 AM
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He was talking to wealthy people about folks they have some stupid assumptions about. (a group who believe they are smarter than small town Americans) What he did was confirm for those people their beliefs that small town Americans are ignorant and DON"T VOTE on economic (translation - use their brains when they vote) issues rather they turn in their ignorance to things they believe can save them.
The "audience" is very important. Look at who he was speaking to and how they view guns, religion and the working folks in small town America.
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 9:28:50 AM
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TomTurn
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He was talking to wealthy people
Was he talking with that southern preacher voice he pulls out from time to time?
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 9:46:41 AM
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He does not understand "faith". He has aligned himself with a type of Church whose goal is to bring about a socialist / marxist nation through the Church. Christ just becomes a political tool for that end.
And remember a Church that was even too "out there" for Oprah
Yep, with Orca's, I mean Oprah's new earth,discover earth or whatever on line church they are carrying the message your okay unless your a typical white person from small town America,evangelical Christian,like guns and dislike illegal immigration. But then you can't help it because most of it was bred into you.
Yes, I think he is showing his racist, anti orthodox,anti evangelical colors.
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 9:48:58 AM
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I will say the more Hitlery tries to comment on what Obama says the more she reveals her "untruthful", "misspeaking" ways.
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 10:07:19 AM
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When you add these comments to the "Price of Arugula at Whole Foods" comment that the made in...wait for it...3...2...1. IOWA??? HAHAHHAHHA. This guy is an elitist... or at least an elitist wannabe... The problem is, IMHO, that he makes these comments to liberals, it's like preaching to the choir. I don't think his comments about small town America are making a big impact to those that support him becuase those that support him are A) Elitist or B) Elitist Wannabe's (those that want others to think they are smarter, better educated, wealthy, and enjoy the "finer" things of life, although they are broke).
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 10:13:12 AM
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When you add these comments to the "Price of Arugula at Whole Foods" comment that the made in...wait for it...3...2...1. IOWA??? HAHAHHAHHA. This guy is an elitist... or at least an elitist wannabe... The problem is, IMHO, that he makes these comments to liberals, it's like preaching to the choir. I don't think his comments about small town America are making a big impact to those that support him becuase those that support him are A) Elitist or B) Elitist Wannabe's (those that want others to think they are smarter, better educated, wealthy, and enjoy the "finer" things of life, although they are broke).
I'm sorry, but to the vast majority of people on this forum, a Columbia-educated US Senator who has also been a professor at the University of Chicago is elite.
That's not at all a good reason to vote for him or like him, but his education and background certainly make him more elite than pretty much all of us.
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 10:20:30 AM
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freakofnature
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When you add these comments to the "Price of Arugula at Whole Foods" comment that the made in...wait for it...3...2...1. IOWA??? HAHAHHAHHA. This guy is an elitist... or at least an elitist wannabe... The problem is, IMHO, that he makes these comments to liberals, it's like preaching to the choir. I don't think his comments about small town America are making a big impact to those that support him becuase those that support him are A) Elitist or B) Elitist Wannabe's (those that want others to think they are smarter, better educated, wealthy, and enjoy the "finer" things of life, although they are broke).
I'm sorry, but to the vast majority of people on this forum, a Columbia-educated US Senator who has also been a professor at the University of Chicago is elite.
That's not at all a good reason to vote for him or like him, but his education and background certainly make him more elite than pretty much all of us.
Blessedinnyc- man that is not the point! His education has little or nothing to do with it, nor his skin color, car, haircut, house, brain size, shoe size, employment history, current social status... IT IS HIS ATTITUDE. The "I know better than you because I shop at Whole Foods, and speaking of that, I can relate to you, in middle America, because the price of arugula is up 30% in the last year. I can bowl a 37, but when I go to Philly, I don't eat cheesesteak, I order imported from Mexico pork!" This guy is not only elitist, he is a snob and frankly, (again IMHO) he is worse than both of those, he is fake about it...
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 10:20:51 AM
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TomTurn
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I'm sorry, but to the vast majority of people on this forum, a Columbia-educated US Senator who has also been a professor at the University of Chicago is elite.
As I said in another thread
Elite - A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status
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So he is stupid, unconnected and poor?
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 10:27:14 AM
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Jhud
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As I said in another thread
Elite - A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status
As I said, there is nothing wrong with elitism, it's snobbery and this attitude of being owed something that should be cause for concern.
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 10:28:23 AM
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Blessedinnyc- man that is not the point! His education has little or nothing to do with it, nor his skin color, car, haircut, house, brain size, shoe size, employment history, current social status... IT IS HIS ATTITUDE. The "I know better than you because I shop at Whole Foods, and speaking of that, I can relate to you, in middle America, because the price of arugula is up 30% in the last year. I can bowl a 37, but when I go to Philly, I don't eat cheesesteak, I order imported from Mexico pork!" This guy is not only elitist, he is a snob and frankly, (again IMHO) he is worse than both of those, he is fake about it...
Please don't move to New York. You would go crazy in a week.
Also, arugula is just another way of saying "green lettuce that looks like lawn weeds." You probably eat it all the time, and it's easy to find at most grocery stores- in fact, I remember seeing it at a Wal-Mart Supercenter back when I lived in Illinois. Sometimes, people use big words to intimidate and show how smart they are, but more often, they need to use them to be specific. Barack specifically pointed to Arugula because it's gotten more expensive.
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 10:47:04 AM
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I'm sorry, but to the vast majority of people on this forum, a Columbia-educated US Senator who has also been a professor at the University of Chicago is elite.
As I said in another thread
Elite - A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status
So then you agree with me that freakofnature is incorrect when he claims that Obama is only an elitist wannabe.
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 10:53:06 AM
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Blessedinnyc- man that is not the point! His education has little or nothing to do with it, nor his skin color, car, haircut, house, brain size, shoe size, employment history, current social status... IT IS HIS ATTITUDE. The "I know better than you because I shop at Whole Foods, and speaking of that, I can relate to you, in middle America, because the price of arugula is up 30% in the last year. I can bowl a 37, but when I go to Philly, I don't eat cheesesteak, I order imported from Mexico pork!" This guy is not only elitist, he is a snob and frankly, (again IMHO) he is worse than both of those, he is fake about it...
Please don't move to New York. You would go crazy in a week.
Also, arugula is just another way of saying "green lettuce that looks like lawn weeds." You probably eat it all the time, and it's easy to find at most grocery stores- in fact, I remember seeing it at a Wal-Mart Supercenter back when I lived in Illinois. Sometimes, people use big words to intimidate and show how smart they are, but more often, they need to use them to be specific. Barack specifically pointed to Arugula because it's gotten more expensive.
Again... missing the point Blessedinny, it has nothing to do with arugula, it is an attitude, and air of supremecy. P.S. he made this comment in Iowa, I'm not sure that "Whole Foods" has cornered the organic food market in Iowa just yet.
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 11:00:03 AM
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Furthermore- What didn't he say "the price of arugula at Wal-Mart?"
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RE: Obama's comments about small-town America - 4/16/2008 11:01:56 AM
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His problem isn't that he's elite but that he's a snob who looks down on a large segment of society.
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