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earthless -> :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 8:06:54 PM)

NEW YORK - Alicia Keys thinks there was no such thing as gangsta rap and it's all part of a conspiracy.

Keys told Blender magazine, "'Gangsta rap' was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other. 'Gangsta rap' didn't exist."

Keys also said that the feud between Tupac Shakur and Notorious B.I.G. was fueled "by the government and the media, to stop another great black leader from existing."

Keys said that she wears a gold AK-47 pendant around her neck "to symbolize strength, power and killing 'em dead."

If that sounds surprising, it's a surprise to her mother as well.

Her mom told Blender, "She wears what? That doesn't sound like Alicia."

Source: AP



stellaluna -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 8:23:17 PM)

I heard that yesterday. How stupid. [8|]



earthless -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 8:36:10 PM)

What an idiotic thing for her to say. And yet this is what many minorities believe (and yes I am a "minority").

They want a nanny-state, the government to take care of them from the cradle to the grave.

Sorry, but it does NOT take a village to raise a child - it takes a family, ideally a mom and dad.

I have a few suggestions on how to fix many of the problems certain people blame on anyone and everyone but themselves:

* stop having kids if you can't support them

* stop having kids if you don't have a stable family structure

- yes, that means TWO parents

* stop having kids if you don't want to take an interest in them

* discipline

* personal responsibility

* get a job

* pay your own way

* set an example worth following

We can see their solution to these things as being:

* raise taxes

*hire some more political idiots to run new agencies

* more studies

We are so doomed.



Sun_Tzu -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 8:38:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: earthless

NEW YORK - Alicia Keys thinks there was no such thing as gangsta rap and it's all part of a conspiracy.

Keys told Blender magazine, "'Gangsta rap' was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other. 'Gangsta rap' didn't exist."

Keys also said that the feud between Tupac Shakur and Notorious B.I.G. was fueled "by the government and the media, to stop another great black leader from existing."

Keys said that she wears a gold AK-47 pendant around her neck "to symbolize strength, power and killing 'em dead."

If that sounds surprising, it's a surprise to her mother as well.

Her mom told Blender, "She wears what? That doesn't sound like Alicia."

Source: AP
[sm=rollingeyes.gif]


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA [sm=thumbsup.gif][sm=hammerhead.gif]

Oh yes Alicia, that MUST be it.



1love1God1way -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 8:44:17 PM)

This is why I don't go to Alicia for advice.



Zhi -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 8:45:21 PM)

Well obviously it IS a governmental conspiracy. But, it's a government conspiracy toward decent music, not killing off leaders of any sort. The secret organization is run by Elvis, of course. (Elvis Presley, not elves, though elves may or may not also be involved. Elves and their delicious, delicious cookies.)



TomTurn -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 8:46:12 PM)

Speaking of Alicia, Alicia Coppola is hot.

There, that is 15 times more intelligent to anything Keys has to say.



tracydolls -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 9:10:44 PM)

quote:

NEW YORK - Alicia Keys thinks there was no such thing as gangsta rap and it's all part of a conspiracy.

Keys told Blender magazine, "'Gangsta rap' was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other. 'Gangsta rap' didn't exist."

Keys also said that the feud between Tupac Shakur and Notorious B.I.G. was fueled "by the government and the media, to stop another great black leader from existing."

Keys said that she wears a gold AK-47 pendant around her neck "to symbolize strength, power and killing 'em dead."

If that sounds surprising, it's a surprise to her mother as well.

Her mom told Blender, "She wears what? That doesn't sound like Alicia."



I don't believe it. I donm't believe she said that. Where's video?



stellaluna -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 9:42:27 PM)

I don't think there is video, since it was a magazine interview.

Here's the story from Fox.
Here's the AP version.



rnershigh -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 9:45:17 PM)

earthless, the link doesn't work, just takes you to a pic of Alicia Keyes.

I found this article at foxnews.com.
article

I can't believe there are people that believe this. I would be laughing if I didn't think she took this seriously. The fact she does is pretty frightening.



SonInMe1 -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 9:58:55 PM)

There are many people who believe this which is truly funny...in fact insane.

Many people believe the government is their big daddy, but also think the government conspires against them.

I think its an excuse not to better themselves. If the government...or their employer...or the "white" man....or whomever is out there controlling things, they have no true personal responsibility.


...and if these "rappers" are the new black leadership, they shoulda stuck with Jesse and Al.



rnershigh -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 10:02:31 PM)

I know it's ironic. On the one hand, people want the government to take care of them in all aspects of their lives and *expect* it, and complain if the government doesn't. Yet, while desiring for a nanny state they think the government is this big, bad entity "Big Brother" and get paranoid with conspiracy theories that the G-man is out to get them. They complain that the government is being too intrusive. They want it all, and complain when they get it. Hello, does this make any sense whatsoever?! LOL.



Sun_Tzu -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/14/2008 10:19:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1
Many people believe the government is their big daddy, but also think the government conspires against them.



Well there are some things that, indeed, I would say yes, the government does conspire against it's constituents.



earthless -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/15/2008 7:54:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tracydolls

quote:

NEW YORK - Alicia Keys thinks there was no such thing as gangsta rap and it's all part of a conspiracy.

Keys told Blender magazine, "'Gangsta rap' was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other. 'Gangsta rap' didn't exist."

Keys also said that the feud between Tupac Shakur and Notorious B.I.G. was fueled "by the government and the media, to stop another great black leader from existing."

Keys said that she wears a gold AK-47 pendant around her neck "to symbolize strength, power and killing 'em dead."

If that sounds surprising, it's a surprise to her mother as well.

Her mom told Blender, "She wears what? That doesn't sound like Alicia."



I don't believe it. I donm't believe she said that. Where's video?


The Associated Press is reporting this. It's in the latest issue of Blender magazine and several other major media outlets are reporting the same piece.



earthless -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/15/2008 7:55:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sun_Tzu

quote:

ORIGINAL: SonInMe1
Many people believe the government is their big daddy, but also think the government conspires against them.



Well there are some things that, indeed, I would say yes, the government does conspire against it's constituents.


The government doesn't force anyone to grab a gun and kill someone when they're keeping it real....



phreddy -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/15/2008 9:50:00 AM)

If she believes that the government created "gangsta" rap to make african americans kill each other, why would she promote the whole "gangsta" culture by wearing an AK47 pendant?



stellaluna -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/15/2008 9:58:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: phreddy
If she believes that the government created "gangsta" rap to make african americans kill each other, why would she promote the whole "gangsta" culture by wearing an AK47 pendant?

Good question.



tracydolls -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/15/2008 10:02:59 AM)

The Ap could report anything. Gangsta rap was started by NWA and a JEW that backed them. Ganster has been around hundreds of years, the mob, irish gangs, just another form.



stellaluna -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/15/2008 10:08:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tracydolls
The Ap could report anything. Gangsta rap was started by NWA and a JEW that backed them. Ganster has been around hundreds of years, the mob, irish gangs, just another form.

The AP happens to be a very reliable source of news. And your history of gangsta rap isn't being disputed; comments by Keys are being disputed. It's ridiculous to think that the government created this genre of music.



freakofnature -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/15/2008 10:51:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: stellaluna

quote:

ORIGINAL: tracydolls
The Ap could report anything. Gangsta rap was started by NWA and a JEW that backed them. Ganster has been around hundreds of years, the mob, irish gangs, just another form.

The AP happens to be a very reliable source of news. And your history of gangsta rap isn't being disputed; comments by Keys are being disputed. It's ridiculous to think that the government created this genre of music.



Have you seen Ted Kennedy, Karl Rove or George Bush Dance... Doubt they could create anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYZre8kEsuw



TomTurn -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/15/2008 11:03:39 AM)

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Gangsta rap was started by NWA and a JEW that backed them. Ganster has been around hundreds of years, the mob, irish gangs, just another form.


But they found a way to make it "acceptable" and really pay well.

As Michelle Malkin would say to Alicia Keys, "Boo Freakin Hoo"

Hey Alicia, get them to give the money back and say they want no more to do with it.

But then I am a "typical white person"



Jhud -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/15/2008 11:26:18 AM)

This thread is edging toward the conspiracy forum...



WesP -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/15/2008 11:47:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: phreddy

If she believes that the government created "gangsta" rap to make african americans kill each other, why would she promote the whole "gangsta" culture by wearing an AK47 pendant?


Have you not noticed how intelligent and well-informed she is??!! [sm=icon_smile_yikes.gif]

Anywho...she is clueless about the realities of government and business (except her sangin', o' course). [;)]



earthless -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/15/2008 2:20:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tracydolls

The Ap could report anything. Gangsta rap was started by NWA and a JEW that backed them. Ganster has been around hundreds of years, the mob, irish gangs, just another form.


Tracy - it seems that your liking of Alicia Keys is clouding your thinking on this, sis.

The AP 'Associated Press' is 'the' standard for news reporting, its trusted in its reporting. Why would they make this up? If they did Alicia's PR people would be all over this.

Also, it doesn't matter if NWA made it mainstream - the culture/lifestyle they promoted in their lyrics, etc existed already. It's not like they outright created the entire movement, they simply made it marketable to the suburban kid that hangs out at the mall.

And it also does not mean any minority was forced to commit crimes.



rcjames -> RE: :: Alicia Keys : Gangsta Rap is Government Ploy (4/15/2008 3:47:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tracydolls

The Ap could report anything. Gangsta rap was started by NWA and a JEW that backed them. Ganster has been around hundreds of years, the mob, irish gangs, just another form.


I don't know Tracydolls, but I have a problem wrapping my mind abour an elderly jewish guy decked out in bling, waving a .45 and promoting having sex with your sister while killing your mother and the cops when they show up.

Thsnks
RC



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