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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 3:23:34 PM
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manda59
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ORIGINAL: HesallIneed Not that my baby doesn't have an appetite but mostly she will only drink the 4 oz. the she throws the bottle down or start to just play with it. Are you saying that she holds the bottle herself for her feed rather than being given it?
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 3:26:34 PM
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She had a bottle at 6:30 am. She eats between 9 & 11am, stage 2 fruit and bowl or rice cereal made with formula. Sometimes fruit in between lunch and dinner. Then a vegetable and fruit for Dinner. Ok, the thing I am seeing here is that she is eating straight carbs for all her solid meals, no fat or protein. So, she really isn't getting enough calories and fat in there, plus you know you don't store protein. Can you see if she likes avocado, which is nice and high in good fats? There are some other things the ladies in baby chat could suggest, as well.
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 3:29:56 PM
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I agree manda that she probably will. My husband said she did drink this morning all. I gave it to her while she was still sleepy, she drank half and then when she was fully awake he gave her the rest. Then she had milk in her rice cereal, had a nape and drank another bottle so far. Thanks Notdoneyet.
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 3:32:38 PM
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Yes she holds her own bottle. Ok, Jenny. THanks. I didnt realize.
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 3:35:51 PM
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You are welcome. I actually had a baby who lost so much weight he had to be put on concentrated formula, but that is an extreme case (born at just over five lbs, went down to nearly four!). Your baby is developing normally, and doing well and is happy, it's just that now that she's growing so fast and moving around so much she can't get enough calories in her little tummy, lol. You are a good mom, and I hope you feel like you can ask anything you need here.
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 3:56:20 PM
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They said she was on the chart but now she's dropping off. My baby was born at 4lbs. 15 oz. She had gained 5.2 lbs before she left hospital in 2 days. She had been on the chart and doing good. But now she's dropping(they say). I've concluded she needs more milk and I need to add a little something else she can eat that has fat in it.
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 4:31:32 PM
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ORIGINAL: HesallIneed Yes she holds her own bottle. You may find she drinks a little more milk if whoever is feeding her cradles her and holds the bottle for her - it's less tiring. quote:
I've concluded she needs more milk and I need to add a little something else she can eat that has fat in it. Not just fat, but protein too. Have you tried her with some chopped chicken, white fish or cheese? And perhaps some beans? Another thing you can try her with is pasta - again, easy to add fat to that with some butter and/or cheese. Also, if she is eating bread or toast, a bit of butter will add some fat for her.
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 5:04:17 PM
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ORIGINAL: HesallIneed They said she was on the chart but now she's dropping off. My baby was born at 4lbs. 15 oz. She had gained 5.2 lbs before she left hospital in 2 days. She had been on the chart and doing good. But now she's dropping(they say). I've concluded she needs more milk and I need to add a little something else she can eat that has fat in it. first understand how babies grow...she will go back and forth on the scale/percentile charts....and you will see her growth much better if you understand how they tend to grow. Others can put how their kids do it, but typically this is how my kids have done it..... as babies they hit a growth spurt about ever two months or so. Typically babies are either developing physically or developing developmentally....so if she is doing more things (like learning a new skill often) then you may not see her growing much physically. They usually go back and forth between growth and development for the full first year of life. So it could just simply be that at the time of her apt she was at one of those times of developing skills instead of growing in size. With mine that didn't/doesn't grow much she still grew at those times when she wasn't learning a new skill, but it wasn't as drastic a growth spurt as mine that was the top of the charts. For her though it was proportionate to what her body needed. After a year usually the growth goes from every two months to every three to six months....the older they get it kind of tapers out to every six months (usually by about 3 years old or so it is at the every six months place). Now I can pretty much predict that right around their birthday and right around the half year mark they are going to grow more. They tend to first start eating and eating and eating...chunk out (sometimes a LOT), then they will all of a sudden stop eating hardly anything at all. Watch out....don't buy any new clothes or shoes.....they are about to grow!!! Usually with mine it's a time of about two weeks to maybe a month and then all of a sudden the chunkiness they had before is gone almost overnight. I have literally put a kid to bed in something that fit, and when they got up it was too small!!! They seem to grow overnight.....and then the chunkiness is gone again. Then usually within about a week they are back to eating their normal amount of food. anyway....that's how I have observed over the last 8 years with my own kids....out of my four so far we have one that is off the charts on the top, two that are off the charts on the bottom, and one that is pretty much right in the middle on the charts. So we have them all over the charts...but they all tend to follow that same pattern above. before suggesting good foods for her....could you answer something for me please....are there any food allergies that run in the family? Has she ever seemed sensitive to anything that she has been given?
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 6:51:53 PM
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When she puts the bottle down what happens if you give it back? Assuming it is not empty. Bug is about 2 months older (has taken 6 oz bottles since around 6 months consistently) and he often gets distracted in the middle of the bottle, even when I am holding him. I find that he will often eat more if I give it back to him a few minutes (up to 15) later even when he refused it initially. I am not talking about forcing her if she really doesn't want it, but she might just need another opportunity after checking out whatever caught her attention. Also, is she drinking juice or water? If so I would cut those out for now. Also, can your sitter try and offer he a bottle before everyone else eats? That way any solids or table food she is getting really are snacks (and she might not want them as much) instead of potentially filling up that little tummy! Kris
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 7:05:11 PM
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Also, is she drinking juice or water? If so I would cut those out for now. Also, can your sitter try and offer he a bottle before everyone else eats? That way any solids or table food she is getting really are snacks (and she might not want them as much) instead of potentially filling up that little tummy! I agree. At this age, breastmilk or formula should make up most of the baby's diet. Any solids given are mostly for exploration purposes until about a year old. That said, some babies are just smaller, like others have said.
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 9:19:26 PM
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ORIGINAL: peculiar_lady2 quote:
ORIGINAL: HesallIneed They said she was on the chart but now she's dropping off. My baby was born at 4lbs. 15 oz. She had gained 5.2 lbs before she left hospital in 2 days. She had been on the chart and doing good. But now she's dropping(they say). I've concluded she needs more milk and I need to add a little something else she can eat that has fat in it. first understand how babies grow...she will go back and forth on the scale/percentile charts....and you will see her growth much better if you understand how they tend to grow. Others can put how their kids do it, but typically this is how my kids have done it..... as babies they hit a growth spurt about ever two months or so. Typically babies are either developing physically or developing developmentally....so if she is doing more things (like learning a new skill often) then you may not see her growing much physically. They usually go back and forth between growth and development for the full first year of life. So it could just simply be that at the time of her apt she was at one of those times of developing skills instead of growing in size. With mine that didn't/doesn't grow much she still grew at those times when she wasn't learning a new skill, but it wasn't as drastic a growth spurt as mine that was the top of the charts. For her though it was proportionate to what her body needed. After a year usually the growth goes from every two months to every three to six months....the older they get it kind of tapers out to every six months (usually by about 3 years old or so it is at the every six months place). Now I can pretty much predict that right around their birthday and right around the half year mark they are going to grow more. They tend to first start eating and eating and eating...chunk out (sometimes a LOT), then they will all of a sudden stop eating hardly anything at all. Watch out....don't buy any new clothes or shoes.....they are about to grow!!! Usually with mine it's a time of about two weeks to maybe a month and then all of a sudden the chunkiness they had before is gone almost overnight. I have literally put a kid to bed in something that fit, and when they got up it was too small!!! They seem to grow overnight.....and then the chunkiness is gone again. Then usually within about a week they are back to eating their normal amount of food. anyway....that's how I have observed over the last 8 years with my own kids....out of my four so far we have one that is off the charts on the top, two that are off the charts on the bottom, and one that is pretty much right in the middle on the charts. So we have them all over the charts...but they all tend to follow that same pattern above. before suggesting good foods for her....could you answer something for me please....are there any food allergies that run in the family? Has she ever seemed sensitive to anything that she has been given? my kids did and do the same thing (I have a 5 year old and a 3 year old too)...they get chunky and eat everything in sight...and get "chubby"...then, a couple weeks later, they almost quit eating and they look SO THIN...all their pants are suddenly 2 inches shorter, the tops don't cover their bellies, and their shoes don't fit...I'm hoping that they are both hitting their growth spurt now in the summer...they can wear shorts and sandals...and I won't spend tons of money on new clothes until the fall...both girls are currently in a chubby phase...growth to come. Oh, and it seems their hair grows overnight too...(neither one has ever had a haircut). NDY
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 9:46:12 PM
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That said, some babies are just smaller, like others have said. Yup, somebody's got to balance out all of our "moose" babies! Kris
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 9:48:22 PM
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My grandaughter just had her 3 y.o. check-up today, she isn't even on the charts at 24 lbs. But she's a healthy, happy, active preschooler. Luckily her doctor isn't a alarmist and realizes she just petite. Neither her mom or dad are large people. Why do people insist babies be big/chunky??? Then all of a sudden by age 6 the AMA is wringing their hands about our obese children. My daughter works in a Peds. office, she says some of the kids she sees are huge. Unless there's an obvious problem, let the kids be.
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 10:14:06 PM
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I wouldn't worry about it honey. My pediatrician says my son is to short (he's only 15months). WHat does the doc expect - i'm only 5'2" and my hubby is 5'9" not exactly giants. I let it go in one ear and out the other. I breastfed and my doc always said as long as they have enough wet and soiled diapers than not to worry about it. THe only thing that you can really do is pray and ask God to help you trust him and his timing. Stephanie
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 10:34:10 PM
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ORIGINAL: SteelMagnolia Good info from the AAP. A 9 month old ought to have 20-24oz. of formula a day. Yup. 1 pint per day (20 fl oz) was what British doctors were recommending too when my two were babies.
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 10:45:21 PM
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You know what, I was re-reading some of that stuff in the link I posted. They recommend too much baby cereal, IMO. I don't know any baby that can eat a whole 1/4 cup of baby cereal. I pretty much followed those guidelines for my first to the T except the cereal though. He's a big healthy boy.
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 10:51:15 PM
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manda59
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Mine didn't eat any baby cereal!
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 11:07:18 PM
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Both of mine ate baby oatmeal, but I would put one formula sized scoop of cereal into a bowl, mix it with fruit and add made formula or breastmilk. I think a formula scoop is two tablespoons. HesAllINeed, great that you will follow the directions on the back of the formula can. Formula is the perfect proportion of liquid to food and food to liquid. Adding extra water can make a baby too full of water to eat enough "food" (formula) and can cause weight loss. Adding extra formula can cause dehydration because the baby is getting too much "food" for the amount of water he gets. KWIM? So, definetely stick to your guns on that one. One thing that helped my Timmy stay focused on his bottle was holding him and turning off the TV, music, noisy toy, noisy daddy, etc. He held his own bottle though, but I held him. He's two and half now, and I still hold him when he drinks his sippy of milk before bed. LOL! It's the ONLY time he'll let me!
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/25/2008 11:49:03 PM
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ORIGINAL: manda59 Mine didn't eat any baby cereal! yup...we don't do it either. I figure why teach their bodies so young to have to start processing things like carbs (which is all the cereal is) when there are things out there that are much better for them and aren't just empty calories!!! We do table foods or table foods that are mashed up (cause I don't buy baby food...make my own....but that's cause I can and am home all the time. I have bought it in the past when we travel cause it's much easier!!)
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/26/2008 12:53:18 AM
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Make sure your doctor is clear as to what he expects her weight to be. Did he consider family build? Is she different than before. Has she been sick with the flu or something since the last height and weight measurement. My daughter stay proportional for her on the chart her doctor used for a long time, except for the couple of months when she was about 17 mo and had bronchiolitis. The she hadn't changed at all since her prior check-up. She stayed at 110 percentile for her first five years. Go figure now that she's 20 yo(as of 4/21) she's 5'1", 100lbs., and wears size 2. So much for percentiles and consistent growth. She does look like the women in both families. There were times as a baby and toddler I did feel like I couldn't keep up with her appetite. We both survived.
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/26/2008 4:23:28 AM
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Bug will eat 3 formula scoops of baby cereal mixed with formula or water (used to use breast milk) plus fruit for breakfast. If you want to continue (I think you said she eats it) giving her baby cereal you might want to check out Earth's Best (or see if you have another similar brand) because all of their cereals are whole grain - rice, oatmeal and multi-grain (can't remember which grains). Granted they are still carbs but I prefer giving him the whole grain from the beginning. Actually any of their foods that contain rice, pasta, cereal etc. are made with whole grains. Kris
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/26/2008 6:53:51 AM
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ORIGINAL: HesallIneed I don't give her table food I was just wondering why? I agree with those who have said that 4oz bottles, especially only 4-5 of them, may not be quite enough. I think your dd would be likely to need just a little more each day, so making, say, at least two of them much bigger, say 6+ US fl oz, would give her the little extra calories she needs.
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RE: 8 months/underweight - 4/26/2008 10:00:54 AM
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She is 14.13 lbs. 8 months. Well, she is underweight. However, I agree with the other posters. If she is otherwise healthy and eating well....she'll eventually catch up. I had the opposite "problem" - my son was such a fat baby! He was cute & happy and healthy but was somewhere in the 90th percentile of the weight range, lol. Now? He's 23, over 6 feet tall and soooo slender you'd never know he was a fat baby. As long as she is eating and healthy......she will equal out.
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