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rogasinger4Him -> How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 11:09:11 AM)

Wondering how y'all feel about the SN weekly poll question.

I personally think it's a great idea and very good way to grow Southern Gospel Music.

But I can see how some major promoters might be afraid it would cut into their piece of the pie and be against it.



MsJudy -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 11:17:09 AM)

I for one, think it is a great idea. If the promoters would take a listen to some of our local/regional groups, they might find some sound better than some "name" groups! At one time, the "major top name" groups were local/regional, and some promoters had a heart and listened and allowed them to get expossure, which is what helped to get them where they are today, JMO.........



Brandon_and_Lisa -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 11:21:30 AM)

This is similar to a poll question from February that asked, "When you pay for a concert ticket to see a major artist, do you mind sitting through two or three local groups before the featured singers appear?”

You can read my blog post in response here.

The forum thread that started in response to that question is here.

I see the differences in the previous question and this one, but still think the use of local groups to open for major groups should be carefully monitored. First off, make sure the local group can, you know, sing before they're booked.



pamr40 -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 11:31:39 AM)

Since we are one of those groups, this subject is near and dear to my heart. We've had the privilege of opening for a few major groups and we were very appreciative. In return, we took it seriously! We were prepared, sang our very best, sang our original music and got off the stage in less time than we were given. After all, we wanted to hear the big guys too!



danielmount -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 11:36:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MsJudy

At one time, the "major top name" groups were local/regional


Some, perhaps most, but not all. Members coming out of high-profile groups sometimes succeed in starting at the full-time national level. Examples include the Mark Trammell Trio, Ernie Haase & Signature Sound, Brian Free & Assurance, Greater Vision, and, I think, the Dixie Echoes.



rogasinger4Him -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 11:38:41 AM)

I think you have the key to it. Respectful, well prepared groups are a plus and add to an experience of worship in song.
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ORIGINAL: pamr40

Since we are one of those groups, this subject is near and dear to my heart. We've had the privilege of opening for a few major groups and we were very appreciative. In return, we took it seriously! We were prepared, sang our very best, sang our original music and got off the stage in less time than we were given. After all, we wanted to hear the big guys too!



jabird41 -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 11:52:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pamr40

Since we are one of those groups, this subject is near and dear to my heart. We've had the privilege of opening for a few major groups and we were very appreciative. In return, we took it seriously! We were prepared, sang our very best, sang our original music and got off the stage in less time than we were given. After all, we wanted to hear the big guys too!



I enjoy groups like Pam's. I don't mind listening to an "opening" group when they know what they are doing and realize that they are not "the big show". I don't mind a few songs to get the night going before the main group takes the stage. When I have a problem with local groups is when they forget that they're not who (most) everyone came to see and even though they may be hosting the concert... a 30-45 minute set of their own is not appropriate. Unless of course, I guess if the concert is billed that way. Ex: A night with MAIN GROUP also featuring Local Group at least that way people know what they are in for.



SamPaasch -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 1:35:21 PM)

I, in fact, like to hear some local groups before the major ones.

1) they add to the concert (also making the concert seem like a big deal, with more than one groups)
2) it gets the local community to recognize their local artists
3) A group has to start somewhere

But I will say, the main group should have more time to sing, unless the people are notified before the concert that the local groups get longer time. Most people buy the tickets to see the main group. The locals are extra music for their tickets.



rlwilliams777 -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 1:45:28 PM)

I think they only add icing to the cake! I don't mind at all. I love hearing local talents.



TQ_Fan_4_Life -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 1:53:44 PM)

I have to agree with most of what has been said. I think is kinda obvious I love the local regional groups. I do in fact think many of the local groups are better singers than the ones on a national level. sad but true.

one thing a lot have to look at is this, the local regional groups most likely could make it nationally. but have you seen price of diesel? and also take into account, groups are run like a business. and it takes a lot of money to do something like that full time. bus alone is probly well over 100K easily for a used used one. ((not a typo there))

lots of groups simply can't make a living doing it nationally so they settle to do it as a weekend or close shows during the week. and being single the life would be perfect. married unless family joins you, will be a strain on marriage's. least I would think.


I know when I start my group, I want to keep it local. honestly, I want to see my ministry lead people to the Lord not see how many awards I get. I want my awards in Heaven not on earth



TQ_Fan_4_Life -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 1:54:51 PM)

so yeah, I love local groups opening.



GVfan -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 2:00:37 PM)

For me, it depends on how the concert is promoted. If the concert is promoted for a "name group," then I like to see one opening local/regional group or a soloist for maybe 15 minutes. There is a LOT of local talent and a lot of it is really good. However, if the "name group" is what was advertised and promoted, that needs to be foremost in the promoters' mind when assigning time during the concert. I've been to many concerts where one or more local/regional groups performed for 30-45 minutes and I was not pleased. If I had known in advance that would have been fine.



MSnurse -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 2:03:03 PM)

I couldn't agree more, well said TQ.
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ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life

I have to agree with most of what has been said. I think is kinda obvious I love the local regional groups. I do in fact think many of the local groups are better singers than the ones on a national level. sad but true.

one thing a lot have to look at is this, the local regional groups most likely could make it nationally. but have you seen price of diesel? and also take into account, groups are run like a business. and it takes a lot of money to do something like that full time. bus alone is probly well over 100K easily for a used used one. ((not a typo there))

lots of groups simply can't make a living doing it nationally so they settle to do it as a weekend or close shows during the week. and being single the life would be perfect. married unless family joins you, will be a strain on marriage's. least I would think.


I know when I start my group, I want to keep it local. honestly, I want to see my ministry lead people to the Lord not see how many awards I get. I want my awards in Heaven not on earth



SamPaasch -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 2:05:07 PM)

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For me, it depends on how the concert is promoted. If the concert is promoted for a "name group," then I like to see one opening local/regional group or a soloist for maybe 15 minutes. There is a LOT of local talent and a lot of it is really good. However, if the "name group" is what was advertised and promoted, that needs to be foremost in the promoters' mind when assigning time during the concert. I've been to many concerts where one or more local/regional groups performed for 30-45 minutes and I was not pleased. If I had known in advance that would have been fine.


You read my mind exactly.



BBfan -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 2:08:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GVfan

For me, it depends on how the concert is promoted. If the concert is promoted for a "name group," then I like to see one opening local/regional group or a soloist for maybe 15 minutes. There is a LOT of local talent and a lot of it is really good. However, if the "name group" is what was advertised and promoted, that needs to be foremost in the promoters' mind when assigning time during the concert. I've been to many concerts where one or more local/regional groups performed for 30-45 minutes and I was not pleased. If I had known in advance that would have been fine.
I have to agree with just about everything stated here and other posts.



TQ_Fan_4_Life -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 2:13:03 PM)

something was mentioned about time.

a quick lil thought to ponder over.

I think some know I go to a concert expecting Church not a show. what if during the local group's show, God gets to working. is it our right as children of God to stop that? or let God's work continue?



GVfan -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 2:28:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life

something was mentioned about time.

a quick lil thought to ponder over.

I think some know I go to a concert expecting Church not a show. what if during the local group's show, God gets to working. is it our right as children of God to stop that? or let God's work continue?


Of course, let God's work continue. But I will also hasten to add that I haven't seen much moving of the spirit in the very opening segments. Not that it can't happen!



TQ_Fan_4_Life -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 2:33:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GVfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life

something was mentioned about time.

a quick lil thought to ponder over.

I think some know I go to a concert expecting Church not a show. what if during the local group's show, God gets to working. is it our right as children of God to stop that? or let God's work continue?


Of course, let God's work continue. But I will also hasten to add that I haven't seen much moving of the spirit in the very opening segments. Not that it can't happen!


Donna was just asking a what if. I can see some promoters likely figiting even if from the major artists I have spoken to, seem enough in love with God I wouldn't put it past them to be at the altar praying with people.



GVfan -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 2:34:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life

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ORIGINAL: GVfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life

something was mentioned about time.

a quick lil thought to ponder over.

I think some know I go to a concert expecting Church not a show. what if during the local group's show, God gets to working. is it our right as children of God to stop that? or let God's work continue?


Of course, let God's work continue. But I will also hasten to add that I haven't seen much moving of the spirit in the very opening segments. Not that it can't happen!


Donna was just asking a what if. I can see some promoters likely figiting even if from the major artists I have spoken to, seem enough in love with God I wouldn't put it past them to be at the altar praying with people.


Go for it!!!! [:D][:D][:D]



Seaton -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 3:10:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life

something was mentioned about time.

a quick lil thought to ponder over.

I think some know I go to a concert expecting Church not a show. what if during the local group's show, God gets to working. is it our right as children of God to stop that? or let God's work continue?


As long as that is the case. I have seen many instances where the artist has tried to 'whip' it up themselves by a really fast closing number. As a result the artist would run over their alotted time. If I was the promoter of this event I wouldn't be happy. An artist is contracted to sing a specific time. The artist should abide by it.

I don't mind really good regional talent opening a concert. As long as it is only 15-20 minutes and they don't abuse their time limits.



BBfan -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 3:15:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Seaton

quote:

ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life

something was mentioned about time.

a quick lil thought to ponder over.

I think some know I go to a concert expecting Church not a show. what if during the local group's show, God gets to working. is it our right as children of God to stop that? or let God's work continue?


As long as that is the case. I have seen many instances where the artist has tried to 'whip' it up themselves by a really fast closing number. As a result the artist would run over their alotted time. If I was the promoter of this event I wouldn't be happy. An artist is contracted to sing a specific time. The artist should abide by it.

I don't mind really good regional talent opening a concert. As long as it is only 15-20 minutes and they don't abuse their time limits.
My thoughts exactly....



Jeff_from_Kentucky -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 4:15:22 PM)

I don't mind local/regional groups opening for major groups as long as it is advertised in advance that they will be doing so. I went to a concert earlier this year that featured two major groups. Nothing was mentioned in advance that there would be a local/regional group opening for them in any of the materials distributed by the promoter.

Imagine my surprise when a regional group took the stage first! After the concert, I mentioned something to an assistant to the promoter that it would have been nice to know in advance that someone else would also be performing at the event. Her response was "Too bad! That's not how we do it." I was stunned by that response.

I know there are a bunch of local/regional groups out there that are very good. Some of them are even better than some nationally known groups. I don't mind seeing them occasionally either. All I ask is that whoever is promoting the event to please let the public know about it in advance.



PaulPate -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 4:24:32 PM)

As a member of one of those "regional" groups for 31 years, I can relate to many of the viewpoints expressed in this thread. I don't mind at all having a regional or local group open for a major group that I may have traveled some distance to hear. There are some conditions, most of which have been stated, that should be adhered to. I think the promoter should allot the time and the group (both local and major) should hold to it. So far as The Spirit moving, any group should always have the liberty to obey His moving, but make sure it is the Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a perfect gentleman, and anything He does will be in order.



pathway -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 4:59:59 PM)

I don't have a problem with local talent singing before a major group a couple of songs. I don't like to see a local group for one hour.



MsJudy -> RE: How do you feel about local/regional groups opening for the major groups (5/7/2008 7:06:23 PM)

I totally agree with most everything said. I do work with lesser known groups. But of course, one has been invited to sing at Inspiration Park with the Inspirations. So I think Faith 3 will be a name to be reckoned with before long in the industry. Yes, I know that just don't make a group. But these ladies are like what Pam said, very respectful and not pushy. They opened for Brian Free a couple of weeks or so back, they were given 20 minutes to sing, even though there was lots of interference {in the sound system} from a tower at the airport that was causing problems, these ladies kept to their 20 minutes and church was about to break out when their time was up. BTW, Brian did have Bill go up and plug them into their sound. Thanks Brian & Bill!



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