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Is it acceptable for Christians
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RE: Is it acceptable for Christians - 5/12/2008 12:06:04 AM
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SovereignIsHe
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How in faith can you take advantage of people? Nothing to do with feelings...
John
I don't believe you can. Even when you use a middle man.
Amen...
John
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RE: Is it acceptable for Christians - 5/13/2008 4:17:15 AM
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The examples given all have one thing in common, the love of money.
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RE: Is it acceptable for Christians - 5/13/2008 7:39:37 AM
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P31W
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You can make the point that in each scenerio the people being "taken advantage of" had been acting irresponsibly with their gifts and forfieted their "rights" to them.
Nehemiah 5
1 Now the men and their wives raised a great outcry against their Jewish brothers. 2 Some were saying, "We and our sons and daughters are numerous; in order for us to eat and stay alive, we must get grain." 3 Others were saying, "We are mortgaging our fields, our vineyards and our homes to get grain during the famine." 4 Still others were saying, "We have had to borrow money to pay the king's tax on our fields and vineyards. 5 Although we are of the same flesh and blood as our countrymen and though our sons are as good as theirs, yet we have to subject our sons and daughters to slavery. Some of our daughters have already been enslaved, but we are powerless, because our fields and our vineyards belong to others."
6 When I heard their outcry and these charges, I was very angry. 7 I pondered them in my mind and then accused the nobles and officials. I told them, "You are exacting usury from your own countrymen!" So I called together a large meeting to deal with them 8 and said: "As far as possible, we have bought back our Jewish brothers who were sold to the Gentiles. Now you are selling your brothers, only for them to be sold back to us!" They kept quiet, because they could find nothing to say. 9 So I continued, "What you are doing is not right. Shouldn't you walk in the fear of our God to avoid the reproach of our Gentile enemies? 10 I and my brothers and my men are also lending the people money and grain. But let the exacting of usury stop! 11 Give back to them immediately their fields, vineyards, olive groves and houses, and also the usury you are charging them--the hundredth part of the money, grain, new wine and oil."
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I don't see any christian taking advantage of other's poor choices.
I see it all the time. And not just when people make poor choices but when they are in situations of that are not of their own making -- people who profess to be Christians take advantage of them.
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the parable of talents suggests that those who act responsibly with the gifts given them will not only prosper from those responsible actions but the gifts given to those who do not act responsibly toward those gifts, will be given to those who do.
This is not about people making "responsible" actions. This is about people who "don't care" about others and make up excuses "why" it's ok to take advantage of those people in their bad situation.
This is about people loving money(and self) and choosing money over doing what is right in God's eyes.
23 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness.
< Message edited by P31W -- 5/13/2008 7:57:58 AM >
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RE: Is it acceptable for Christians - 5/13/2008 12:52:13 PM
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Focusing
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If you are intentionally deceiving someone, it's wrong. Period. It's your action, not their ignorance.
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Sam
Though the sound overpowers, sing again, with your dear voice revealing a tone
Of some world far from ours, where music and moonlight and feeling are one
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RE: Is it acceptable for Christians - 5/13/2008 8:01:36 PM
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mcp
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Exo 22:25 If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury.
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RE: Is it acceptable for Christians - 5/16/2008 8:37:53 AM
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P31W
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If you are intentionally deceiving someone, it's wrong.
Nothing on my part was intentional other than to make money and to choose to not care about who it might harm.
< Message edited by P31W -- 5/16/2008 8:47:49 AM >
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