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Evangel70 -> "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 1:24:29 PM)
JERUSALEM (CNN) -- President Bush launched a sharp but veiled attack Thursday on Sen. Barack Obama and other Democrats, suggesting they favor "appeasement" of terrorists in the same way some Western leaders appeased Hitler in the run-up to World War II. story here Some people will NEVER learn..... President Bush spent 6 years ignoring democrats and equating them with appeasers of terrorism and unpatriotic because they criticized his war policies. This led to a democratic landslide in 2006 as IMO people are getting weary of politicians using "fear and smear" to garner their vote. (Or perhaps people are just getting smarter [8\|] ) Using the Rove electoral process for the 2008 presidential campaign will only guarantee a landslide win for Obama or Clinton. The 2004 Presidential campaign was one of the most nastiest and negative in history (or at least in MY history [8D]) and I have a feeling that the 2004 campaign will pale in camparison to what the Republicans are going to do to the democratic nominee once that is decided. It's going to be a loooooong election. [:(]

Jhud -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 2:14:29 PM)
quote: It's going to be a loooooong election. 'going to be'?

lightshineon -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 2:16:07 PM)
So big WAAAAAAAAA, and a change of pampers, that is ALL they do to him.[8\|]

EStan -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 2:29:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jhud quote: It's going to be a loooooong election. 'going to be'? I was just gonna say...[8D] Negative campaigning, smear tactics, mud-slinging... I'm not suggesting these tactics are right or fair, but they've been around a LOOOONG time.

lightshineon -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 2:33:04 PM)
Yeah, and every speech from BO, and HIlBill has been very negative towards Mr. Bush. The way things are. quote: ORIGINAL: EStan quote: ORIGINAL: Jhud quote: It's going to be a loooooong election. 'going to be'? I was just gonna say...[8D] Negative campaigning, smear tactics, mud-slinging... I'm not suggesting these tactics are right or fair, but they've been around a LOOOONG time.

Evangel70 -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 3:13:06 PM)
quote: 'going to be'? [:D][:D][:D] Good point. November can't come fast enough.

Evangel70 -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 3:18:52 PM)
quote: Yeah, and every speech from BO, and HIlBill has been very negative towards Mr. Bush. The way things are. Unless I missed something, I've never heard Obama or Hillary refer to George Bush as a terrorist sympathizer. The President professes to be a Christian and often claims to be doing the Lord's work. I guess his "Christianity" is no different than Obama's or the Clinton's. Just said that politics has to be reduced grade-school bullying. [:(]

CherishedbyGod -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 3:38:06 PM)
You wanna talk about smear? Hillary called Born-again Christians "right-wing bigots"[:@]

rnershigh -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 3:54:23 PM)
The Democrats are no better than the Republicans when it comes to "smear" tactics. [8D] Oh, and it wasn't such a "landslide". The Dems don't have that large of a majority at all in Congress. I wouldn't be so certain of a "landslide" win for Clinton or Obama. IIRC, the Democrat-led Congress has yet to do anything since they got power and how long has it been? 2 years? All those empty promises....just imagine the damage they could do with a Democratic president in the WH.ugh.

Jhud -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 4:37:03 PM)
quote: I've never heard Obama or Hillary refer to George Bush as a terrorist sympathizer. Bush has never done this to Obama or Hillary, so why are you insinuating that he did?

Evangel70 -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 6:19:21 PM)
quote: Bush has never done this to Obama or Hillary, so why are you insinuating that he did? From article above.... The president, at Israel's 60th anniversary celebration in Jerusalem, suggested that some Democrats were acting in the same way some Western leaders did when they appeased Hitler in the runup to World War II. "As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is: the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history," he said while speaking to Israel's parliament, the Knesset. ….. The president did not name Sen. Barack Obama or any other Democrat, but White House aides privately acknowledged to CNN that the remarks were aimed at the presidential candidate and others in his party.

lightshineon -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 6:27:49 PM)
Every speech Obama and Hillary give is a Bush bash. quote: ORIGINAL: Evangel70 quote: Bush has never done this to Obama or Hillary, so why are you insinuating that he did? From article above.... The president, at Israel's 60th anniversary celebration in Jerusalem, suggested that some Democrats were acting in the same way some Western leaders did when they appeased Hitler in the runup to World War II. "As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is: the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history," he said while speaking to Israel's parliament, the Knesset. ….. The president did not name Sen. Barack Obama or any other Democrat, but White House aides privately acknowledged to CNN that the remarks were aimed at the presidential candidate and others in his party.

Leslie_JnJs_mom -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 8:56:45 PM)
all I have to say about President Bush's statement and BO's outrage is the truth hurts. If there was no way they could be seen as sympathizers then they would have laughed it off.

lightshineon -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/15/2008 10:53:12 PM)
You are wise.[:D] quote: ORIGINAL: Leslie35 all I have to say about President Bush's statement and BO's outrage is the truth hurts. If there was no way they could be seen as sympathizers then they would have laughed it off.

inthysite -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/16/2008 12:09:53 AM)
quote: The president did not name Sen. Barack Obama or any other Democrat, but White House aides privately acknowledged to CNN that the remarks were aimed at the presidential candidate and others in his party. Has CNN identified who these aides were or is this just something they said to help them smear the president? How do we know that Bush wasn't speaking about Jimmy Carter's recent talks with Hamas? It would seem more likely that this is what Bush was talking about seeing how his entire administration had denounced this action.

tracydolls -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/16/2008 12:20:24 AM)
Bush being in Israel for the 2nd time in 8 years like he really supports Israel, what a joke! And then to being up US shameful histyory with Hitler, like we really helped Jews, how many could've been saved in 7 years we diidnt go? Abe Lincoln said"if I make my enemies my friends, are they still my enemies? We need to talk to people period. Us not talking has done nothing , bombs are still being made, etc. All presidents send people to talk, how many things have been avoided because we talked?

ljmac -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/16/2008 12:05:53 PM)
GWB said nothing out of line. Obama is weak on terrorism and he doesn't want anyone to point it out. He's a liberal. How could he be anything but weak? They want to tell our enemies our plans, undo our spy network and give them lawyers to get out of prison.

rnershigh -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/16/2008 12:21:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ljmac GWB said nothing out of line. Obama is weak on terrorism and he doesn't want anyone to point it out. He's a liberal. How could he be anything but weak? They want to tell our enemies our plans, undo our spy network and give them lawyers to get out of prison. Obama is weak in general in all areas. He would make a disastrous president.

tracydolls -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/16/2008 12:28:23 PM)
quote: He's a liberal. How could he be anything but weak? Why do you keep saying insulting things about liberals? I suggest you become patriotic and love your next president who will be a LIBERAL!

rnershigh -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/16/2008 12:53:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tracydolls quote: He's a liberal. How could he be anything but weak? Why do you keep saying insulting things about liberals? I suggest you become patriotic and love your next president who will be a LIBERAL! One does not have to "love" one's president. Respect the office yes, but one can disapprove and criticize the president (as the current president so clearly shows....)

davemiller7 -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/16/2008 3:23:30 PM)
Yeah, this has been going on since the hanging chads in Florida in 2000. World record? Wish they would get over it. But, if somehow McCain happens to win in November, can you imagine the chaos that's going to happen, and how soon the next campaign for 2012 will begin? -Dave quote: ORIGINAL: Jhud quote: It's going to be a loooooong election. 'going to be'?

davemiller7 -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/16/2008 3:32:20 PM)
I don't understand how any real aide would think it was safe to tell CNN (or any other media) anything. They certainly should be smart enough to know it would be in the next newscast. Since these "sources" are never named, they may not really exist. They could be (oh perish the thought!) made up by the media. Whaddya think? -Dave quote: ORIGINAL: inthysite quote: The president did not name Sen. Barack Obama or any other Democrat, but White House aides privately acknowledged to CNN that the remarks were aimed at the presidential candidate and others in his party. Has CNN identified who these aides were or is this just something they said to help them smear the president? How do we know that Bush wasn't speaking about Jimmy Carter's recent talks with Hamas? It would seem more likely that this is what Bush was talking about seeing how his entire administration had denounced this action.

davemiller7 -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/16/2008 3:36:22 PM)
I've noticed how much you love the present day President!! Yep, you sure do! -Dave quote: ORIGINAL: tracydolls quote: He's a liberal. How could he be anything but weak? Why do you keep saying insulting things about liberals? I suggest you become patriotic and love your next president who will be a LIBERAL!

TomTurn -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/16/2008 4:23:21 PM)
quote: I suggest you become patriotic and love your next president who will be a LIBERAL! You got that right, no matter which of the 3 are elected

davemiller7 -> RE: "Fear and Smear" is back.... (5/16/2008 4:31:36 PM)
Unfortunately, you're right. There's not a dime's worth of difference between them. -Dave quote: ORIGINAL: TomTurn quote: I suggest you become patriotic and love your next president who will be a LIBERAL! You got that right, no matter which of the 3 are elected

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