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pstrdebi -> Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/15/2008 2:56:54 PM)

This is kind of a spin-off of other posts, but the one that made me think about this again was Walker311's post about the Rapture ("Will you take flight?").

I believe that the antichrist spirit is running rampant... and wreaking havoc. My husband and I have already studied this considerably... he has even preached on it.

Soooo..... I'm curious about what you think. I'm a little bit of a statisic's kinda person... just a little... so I'd like to compile evryones thoughts.

Do you believe there is an antichrist? Is he here or when will he come? What does he look like to you? Etc.

Thanks!
Pastor Debi
[;)]



SuspenseWriter -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/15/2008 3:34:30 PM)

I doubt any of us have seen him...yet (as I understand it, the "man of sin" won't be revealed until we're gone).

But do I think he's alive somewhere right now? Yep. I do.



ta_mosquito -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/15/2008 5:24:11 PM)

I think, as one of the epistles said, that there are antichrists in a lot of places. They may not be THE antichrist, but that spirit is definitely around.

Eckhart Tolle
Christopher Hitchens

...to name a couple.

Basically, I consider those who actively fight and promote anti-Christianity or promote the idea that Christianity is a sham, those who actively purport a different gospel, are antichrists.



sparkleingsnow -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/15/2008 6:57:01 PM)

God's word backs you up ta_mosquito.

1 John 2:18Little children, it is the last time: and ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Strong's: antichrists - "an opponent of the Messiah-antichrist".

But I wasn't going to go there. [;)]



StronginGod -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/15/2008 10:12:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pstrdebi

Do you believe there is an antichrist? Is he here or when will he come? What does he look like to you? Etc.

Thanks!
Pastor Debi
[;)]


Yes... I believe there is THE antichrist to come... and I believe his spirit lives here now. The Word says so. I bellieve the antichrist spirit dwells in many churches across this world, including America. It's sad, but I believe that is so.



LCannon -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/15/2008 11:23:11 PM)

Probably I know lots o' antichrists(with a small 'a')but the Antichrist power, politically, will wait until the church(NT saints)is removed. Whether he's alive(has been born)is a moot point.



HisFish -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/15/2008 11:49:07 PM)

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I bellieve the antichrist spirit dwells in many churches across this world, including America. It's sad, but I believe that is so.


Your right, there are churches like that in America, i deliver mail to one such church. It is a presbyterian church here in Denver (many solid Pres. churches here as well, so im not slamming that denom.). A beautiful old brick church with such a beautiful cornerstone with a 1911 dedication. I have daydreamed about the founding of it, and i imagine how the first pastor was so on fire to preach the Word and see the lost saved, and how he would weep to see it in apostasy as it is now. Same sex union ceremonies, teaching that God loves everyone just as they are without need of repentance, proudly proclaiming last december how they will no longer have a Christmas celebration but a winter celebration .



pstrdebi -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/16/2008 12:07:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HisFish

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I bellieve the antichrist spirit dwells in many churches across this world, including America. It's sad, but I believe that is so.


Your right, there are churches like that in America, i deliver mail to one such church. It is a presbyterian church here in Denver (many solid Pres. churches here as well, so im not slamming that denom.). A beautiful old brick church with such a beautiful cornerstone with a 1911 dedication. I have daydreamed about the founding of it, and i imagine how the first pastor was so on fire to preach the Word and see the lost saved, and how he would weep to see it in apostasy as it is now. Same sex union ceremonies, teaching that God loves everyone just as they are without need of repentance, proudly proclaiming last december how they will no longer have a Christmas celebration but a winter celebration .


Oh my... that breaks my heart so much. How Jesus must weep over those churches... but they were prophesied about, "...for in these last days..."
[&o]



SonInMe1 -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/16/2008 10:14:14 AM)

I think she was married to a former president and is now running for that position.

Seriously....I think the end times stuff is in God's hands and while its entertaining to serve ideas up for debate, the bottom line is...we don't know how the end times will take form.

All we really know is Jesus is coming back.



pstrdebi -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/16/2008 1:36:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1

I think she was married to a former president and is now running for that position.


HA!!!!!! (You don't want to know who I'd pick... there would be literal flames on this thread!!!! [:D])

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Seriously....I think the end times stuff is in God's hands and while its entertaining to serve ideas up for debate, the bottom line is...we don't know how the end times will take form.

All we really know is Jesus is coming back.


Now, come on... aren't you the one who told me on my other thread, "I enjoy a good debate..." [:D][:)][;)][8|]

Blessings... Pastor Debi



sparkleingsnow -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/16/2008 5:50:55 PM)

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Original: pstrdebi

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1

I think she was married to a former president and is now running for that position.


HA!!!!!! (You don't want to know who I'd pick... there would be literal flames on this thread!!!! )


Now I really want to know who you would pick!!! LOL



figmentPez -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/16/2008 6:15:48 PM)

I've seen many people on these forums promoting false "christs". They claim they are teaching about the real Jesus Christ, but the thing they they are promoting is not the God of scripture who died for the sin of man. These people promoting anti-Christ are Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, "Onenes Pentecostals", and of course there are those who refuse any name, but still reject the triune God of the Bible.



Walker311 -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/16/2008 6:31:38 PM)

Disclaimer: THE FOLLOWING IS SPECULATION... maybe laced with truth.

Do you believe there is an antichrist?

Yes! I believe there is an individual who will live up to the antichrist title and will be able to sway a multitude of new agers as well as border-line believers, and people of all beliefs using some smooth talk, good looks, extreme intelligence, and supernatural abilities

Is he here or when will he come?

He/she is alive now and either a child or young adult.

What does he look like to you? Etc.

Most likely from the middle East.



SonInMe1 -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/16/2008 8:58:59 PM)

Debate is fun. However I don't believe anyone understands Revelation to the point a valuable debate can occur.

The Left Behind series colors many perceptions of what the end times will be.

Ted Dekker has a completely different view in his Red, Black and White series.

I also think we must be careful who we call and anti-christ. Because someone does not agree with your doctrines does not make them an antichrist.



pstrdebi -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/17/2008 12:58:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sparkleingsnow

Now I really want to know who you would pick!!! LOL


I will say this much, I agree with Walker311's partial description...
"smooth talk, good looks, extreme intelligence, and supernatural abilities..."

quote:

ORIGINAL: SonInMe1

Debate is fun. However I don't believe anyone understands Revelation to the point a valuable debate can occur.


True. Just watched a History Channel special on the antichrist and Revelation. Boy, how they twist things.
[&:]



zamdad -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/17/2008 1:14:07 AM)

I really hate to say this. I remember as a kid in high school, a friend saying that Ronald Wilson Reagan (666( was the antichrist. While he was saying that, I was bewildered as I liked Reagan. If I was going to have to pick a politician, years ago I would have picked Hillary. Now, I see Obama as the one.

But hey, this leads to nothing more than more speculation.



SonInMe1 -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/17/2008 7:43:33 AM)

I think the anti-christ...THE....will be very affable.



colliefan -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/17/2008 1:23:21 PM)

Will there be an Anti-Christ? Yes. Is the sprit of the anti-Christ present today? Yes,in many shapes and forms and has permetated all of society.
Are we to waste time trying to "pin the tail on the Anti-Christ? No, our job is to occupy until He comes.

We are to:

2 Tim 4:1 - 5 (ESV) 1I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 2preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. 3For the time is coming when people will not endure sound£ teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. 5As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

All of us have the ministry to which God has called us. We are to use our giftings, our talents, and all we have to His glory.



mvic -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/17/2008 7:33:57 PM)

Dear Pastor Debi,

You say the antichrist "spirit" is running rampant. Are we to assume that the antichrist is in fact a spirit (Satan, the devil) or is he/she/it actually a person as some posts here seem to suggest.

The Bible references aren't too clear about this. Also the references in 1 John and 2 John hint that he is here already - i.e. at the time of writing those words 2000 or so years ago. This suggests he is a spirit - i.e. satan.

You say your husband has preached about this already and you have both studied it considerably. What are your views?

Of course we know satan is here and has been here since whenever. He tempts people and can even possess people. We also know that there are people who today speak out against God/Christ. So logically either or both of these entities can be the antichrist.

Some enlightenment from you and your husband would help.

Thanx.



Judah1966 -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/17/2008 7:50:50 PM)

I think I have but I hope I havent.I agree with posters and Gods word that the spirit of ANTICHRIST is already in the world today.And according to stats is increasing at an alarming rate,about 170,000 Christians are killed a year because of their faith in Jesus Christ around the world according to Voice of The Marters, not to mention people that are against Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible.If you were to talk about hell with others the way Jesus did youd see the spirit of antichrist.Most people now a days dont even believe it exsists and if Jesus told them most of them you will go there if you dont repent they wouldnt stay with Him long theyd deny Him too and other terrible things.I pray we are ready for what coming.
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rcjames -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/18/2008 9:34:05 AM)

Question; How many times is the term "AntiChrist" mentioned in the Book of Revelations?

Answer: Not even once.

Thanks
RC.



pstrdebi -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/21/2008 3:19:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mvic

Dear Pastor Debi,

You say the antichrist "spirit" is running rampant. Are we to assume that the antichrist is in fact a spirit (Satan, the devil) or is he/she/it actually a person as some posts here seem to suggest.

The Bible references aren't too clear about this. Also the references in 1 John and 2 John hint that he is here already - i.e. at the time of writing those words 2000 or so years ago. This suggests he is a spirit - i.e. satan.

You say your husband has preached about this already and you have both studied it considerably. What are your views?

Of course we know satan is here and has been here since whenever. He tempts people and can even possess people. We also know that there are people who today speak out against God/Christ. So logically either or both of these entities can be the antichrist.

Some enlightenment from you and your husband would help.

Thanx.


Hi mvic...

Thanks for asking. Here is a link to the sermon I talked about...

http://www.therockfellowship.org/Sermons.html

I hope this answers a lot of your questions.
God Bless...
Pastor Debi
[;)]

Warning:
The above sermon may not be suitable for the faint of heart. This sermon has not yet been rated. Please submit all inquires and complaints to the Creator of the Universe and He will respond within an appropiate timeframe.
[:D]



colliefan -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/21/2008 11:35:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rcjames
Question; How many times is the term "AntiChrist" mentioned in the Book of Revelations?
Answer: Not even once.
Thanks
RC.


RC,

I very much trust your understanding of the Bible. Itsn't this person referenced by another name?



SonInMe1 -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/22/2008 9:37:03 AM)

Since my doctrine IS perfect, anti-christs must be...must...be those who disagree with me.



figmentPez -> RE: Have You Seen The Antichrist????? (5/22/2008 4:57:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1

Since my doctrine IS perfect, anti-christs must be...must...be those who disagree with me.


You don't need a to have a flawlessly straight ruler to be able to tell when something has been twisted into a knot.



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