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Ah-pappapishu -> RE: About objectifying women (6/20/2008 12:49:25 AM)
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ORIGINAL: landabee
It really is okay if you want to think that you can convince us that you weren't merely talking to us objects women.
[:D]
Objects aren't supposed to think anyway. [;)]
I'm "funnin'" but serious, too.
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But honestly, I think it is very revealing about how society and feminism wants people to think, even if it means going against human nature, good sense, and most importantly, God's Word. I draw the line there. But evidently a lot of people don't.
*bold emphasis, mine.
Feminism is the rallying cry for all men that prefer to subjugate, including those that would twist and pervert the Word in effort to support their views. I refuse to accept objectification as a WOMAN that the Lord has created. I am more than my gender. I will be viewed as a complete person in the Lord.
I would love to see how objectification lines up with God's Word.
Double.
Dog.
Dare ya.
Well, I don't believe in subjugation of women, so I'm not sure who you're talking to there. Nor do I believe that the cultural definition of objectification that constitutes solely treating them as objects is morally right.
I have explained the idea of men processing things in a spatial sense, and how that should not be vilified or looked down upon. It is this, a reference to conceptualizing women in a physical sense, that I am referring to. I hope it's all clarified and you get what I'm saying here.
With that being said, references to the importance of a woman's physical beauty are rife throughout the OT. The best examples are
Genesis 24:15, 16
Deuteronomy 21:10-14
Genesis 6:1-4
In their context, and in several other instances throughout the scripture, it makes the importance of physical beauty evident. To a lot of people, the content of these scriptures, particularly that one in Deuteronomy, would make their stomach turn in disgust. I know it did to me when I first read it. No consideration of the woman's feelings, of her opinions, her intelligence. Is it really all beauty?
With our way of thinking, our values and social conditioning, we would hardly accept it, let alone cherish, respect and value it as God's Word, and the command of God Himself.
Yet, it goes to show that what "feels" right is not always what IS right. When what we "like" is contrary to what God says is right, we must give up our own preferences and ideals and cling to him, even when we do not yet understand it.
I think a lot of women who so violently reject this idea, must truly come to terms with what it is that prevents them from accepting it- fear. Fear of their well-being, fear for their self-esteem, their self-worth, their value in society, fear for their freedoms and rights.
But accepting the way men naturally tend to think does not necessitate these problems. Not if the man follows God's Word. Not if he loves his wife, not if he does not lust after women, not if he treats her the way God treats him. Not if he respects and cherishes her.
Ephesians 5:25-33
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25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— 30for we are members of his body. 31"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh." 32This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
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