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Retrobyter -> RE: Israel - 1948 (5/22/2008 11:19:01 PM)
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ORIGINAL: TheoCentric
Sorry, Retrobyter, but wrong again.
Jesus is the King in the line of David who reigns and we reign with Him.
David is resurrected as are all children of God, but it is to reign with Christ along with the children of God, not to reign over everyone again.
All of scripture is about the Church, God's people being redeemed through Jesus Christ. The Israelites were the Church in the OT. Adam and Eve were the Church in the beginning. Noah was the Church. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, etc. are all the Church. Paul, Peter, James, Jude, John, Barnabas, Timothy, etc. are all the Church.
We are now getting way off topic.
Can you give a clear verse that indicates that modern Israel being formed in 1948 was fulfillment of prophecy?
Incidentally, it's been said that prophetic cycles usually go in 40 years, so therefore, at least two possible 40 year cycles have come and gone. 1948-1988. 1967-2007. I suppose the next cycle would be 1973-2013. We'll see.
Can't rely on dates and newspaper prophecy. Only a proper interpretation of God's Word.
Shalom, TheoCentric!
Ha! Ha! That's a good one! How does one "reign with Christ (the Messiah, by the way) along with the children of God" and not reign over someone?! What does that look like? What would be the point???!!!! Hasn't that thought ever bothered you about that position? It bothered me when I used to hold that position!
Let the Scriptures speak for themselves:
Ezek 34:23-31
23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
25 And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods.
26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing.
27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I am the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them.
28 And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall make them afraid.
29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.
30 Thus shall they know that I the LORD their God am with them, and that they, even the house of Israel, are my people, saith the Lord GOD.
31 And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men, and I am your God, saith the Lord GOD.
KJV
And, why not? You ASSUME there will be no other than God's children around to judge! That's a BIG assumption and one that doesn't hold to the Scriptures, even in the book of Revelation! Read it carefully! The "no more"s APPLY TO THE NEW JERUSALEM! They do NOT apply to the whole of the New Earth!
For instance, just as the New Jerusalem had no more need of the sun or the moon, does NOT mean that the whole New Earth won't need them! To the contrary, we have other passages that tell us that the sun and moon will still be around for the New Earth and will be around FOREVER!
Read Isaish chapters 60 through 66! You will gain a glimpse into a New Earth that is QUITE different than that portrayed in modern eschatologies! STICK TO THE SCRIPTURES!!! Theology, especially eschatology, should be dictated by the Scriptures, not the other way around!
Retrobyter
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