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.ABBA. -> RE: Obama and The End Times... (11/16/2008 8:05:45 AM)
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Hi there SS,, quote:
No, that's all I saw, it was a clip from a speech. To say that you could not survive its application is to suggest that Christ was mistaken which ever way you shake it. It's a mocking of Christ's suggestion that this is how people, leaders, kings and whoever should be trying to steer towards and base their lives and policies on. Was he saying that Christ was mistaken? Or that He was being unrealistic? Youtube it for your self, a lot of Christians were very upset. To try to justify Obama's words that were criticizing Christ's instructions to the world, and on a public stage is to deliberatly select deafness and making a choice. Well, where do our layalties rest? For me, Obama clearly, by words and tone of speech was indeed mocking. He certainly was making a speech saying, 'this is what Christ said, and this is the way we should be trying to head'! Quite the opposite! I know for me, I hear what I hear, and i'm never going to turn a deaf ear to suit. Whoops,,, Sonic Student (Not Sinner-Saint) gotta watch that initial problem. LOL I first heard of this speech just prior to the elections and watched that small snippet on youtube , that you had posted the transcipt for and thought,, what the?? However once you read or watch the whole speech you can place those words spoken into some context. quote:
Obama- Call to Renewal Moreover, given the increasing diversity of America's population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers. And even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson's, or Al Sharpton's? Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount - a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application? So before we get carried away, let's read our bibles. Folks haven't been reading their bibles. Correct me if i am wrong here,, but Obama in context was speaking about the government, Church & State and the Defense Department. He wasn't saying you or me or anyone person wouldn't survive it's application but the defense department worldn't survive it. Big difference there don't you think? quote:
Well, where do our layalties rest? My Loyalty is with Jesus the Christ,, always has been since being reborn in his Spirit. I will never place a President or World Leader above Christ or any nation for that matter above Israel now matter how Holy they may seem on surface. The proof of this has been shown here on these boards over the last 4 years or so when i have tried to highlight the current President and his ways. This will not change when/if Obama takes the office of President in January. If he steps out of line, lies and deceives then i will also speak out against Obama. I'm here to do the Good Works of Christ, i'm not here to be a Patriot. I hope this explains things a bit better and my standing Sonic, I'm not for Obama or GW , I'm for Christ. yours In Christ,, God Bless
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