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That's excellent and that is how it should be. Unfortunately many of us who claim to have an affiliation within the body of Christ seem to be more loyal to flawed candidates, flawed political party's and even a flawed country.

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I guess this means if you vote for Obama, there's a place reserved for you in hell?

I haven't decided whom I'm voting for and am not registered to any party...just curious...

Peace and God bless,

How can a person who claims to love Christ believe they can support a person who supports the murder of unborn children at the same time... Serving two masters...

John

As I said, I'm undecided.

I guess that's a yes, then, from you?

Peace and God bless,

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The only candidate who is serious about abortion is Chuck Baldwin. How can christians who love christ honestly ridicule and critique other christians for saying they support the only candidate who wants to abolish abortion? Yet they do.

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There are other issues besides abortion. I'm absolutely disgusted with an administration that would higher a group of thugs like Blackwater who would murder innocent Iraqi's for no apparent reason and get off with it. I'm disgusted over an administration that would intentionally fabricate and spin a war. (link here I'm thoroughly sick and tired of a party that claimed for my entire life that they were conservative and were fiscally responsible yet for 6 years they set record after record after record for number of earmarks, number of pork barrel spending addons to legislation, number of dollars for pork in each budget, worst deficits and coincidentally the dollar is eroded about 50% of what it was when Dubya took office.

It's real easy to overlook abortion when dealing with a lifetime of lies and sleaze from the so called party of "christians and Matt Foley and Larry Craig" that ran the government for 6 of the last 7.5 years.

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The only people that are going to hell are those that reject the gift of the cross...period. If any of those who happen to vote for Obama (or Clinton, or McCain, or Barr, or Bozo) have rejected that gift, then, yes, they're going to hell. What's so hard to understand and who's making a different statement? Who is even alluding to something different?

I think the point many are attempting to hammer in is that many of the things that some of the candidates stand for are inconsistent with the Christian life. That's about as deep as it gets!

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Since that’s the case and I am not saying I disagree with you, but what is the reason some of us are so loyal to some of these candidates? If we look at Senators McCain, Clinton and Obama all 3 have stood by policies that are and still inconsistent with Christian life. Let’s go deeper, why are some of us so loyal to our various political parties? The big 2 are both guilty of sinful behavior and un-Christian like policies. Are we ranking the sins when it come to people we don’t like or agree with politically?

You got me. Personally, I'm looking for candidates that are Christians. It's slim pickins for sure. I voted for Huckabee myself. As for being loyal, I'm only loyal to Christ...I don't give that loyalty to a mere man. Human beings will disappoint every time! But I do feel we have a responsibility to vote so we have to do the best we can, with the Lord's leading. And, remember people...it's not us, but God that raises up leaders! We prayerfully vote, seeking His will for our choice, then the results are up to Him.

So it's really a moot conversation, isn't it? [;)]

That's excellent and that is how it should be. Unfortunately many of us who claim to have an affiliation within the body of Christ seem to be more loyal to flawed candidates, flawed political party's and even a flawed country.

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Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


I would say support none of these.

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You must be pretty tall to overlook the mountain of dead unborn children...

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Who are you speaking of?

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The only candidate who is serious about abortion is Chuck Baldwin. How can christians who love christ honestly ridicule and critique other christians for saying they support the only candidate who wants to abolish abortion? Yet they do.

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Who are you speaking of?

Chuck Baldwin.

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You are arguing out of context, as the issue here is not the spiritual consequences of sin. Would you argue that a person that lies about his taxes should be given the same judgment in a court of law as a person that cuts a 6 month old baby into pieces? If you say no, then in response, in the context in which you are arguing above, one could point out how the Bible shows that murderers and liars have the same spiritual consequence and, therefore, should receive the same courtroom judgment.

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He is the constitution party candidate that will take a couple thousand votes away from McCain and help Obama win.

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You are arguing out of context, as the issue here is not the spiritual consequences of sin. Would you argue that a person that lies about his taxes should be given the same judgment in a court of law as a person that cuts a 6 month old baby into pieces? If you say no, then in response, in the context in which you are arguing above, one could point out how the Bible shows that murderers and liars have the same spiritual consequence and, therefore, should receive the same courtroom judgment.

I said support none of the above. If we are basing it on Biblical Principles.

Then don't just use one. Use the whole Bible. People say they cannot vote for a person that supports abortion. OK. I can understand that. But then have that same attitude about people that die wrongly on death row.

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http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/12/america/NA-POL-US-Obama-Death-Penalty.php


I'm not a Bo Supporter, but.....

I can't vote for someone who has a atrocious death penalty record. ie Bush as Texas Gov.

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He is the constitution party candidate that will take a couple thousand votes away from McCain and help Obama win.

Dead last on my list is McCain. I'd vote for a yellow dog before I'd vote for McCain.

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You must be pretty tall to overlook the mountain of dead unborn children...

I can't see over the mountain chain of Iraqi refugees and dead Iraqi's.

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Vote for the yellow dog. It has the same chance as winning as Chuck Baldwin.

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Jurors and judges punish murderers by executing them, not governors.

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WASHINGTON — President Bush, who presided over 152 executions as governor of Texas, wants to halt the state's execution of a Mexican national for the brutal killing of two teenage girls.

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Vote for the yellow dog. It has the same chance as winning as Chuck Baldwin.

Lol! I figure everyone would vote for Snuffles. ; )

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http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/12/america/NA-POL-US-Obama-Death-Penalty.php


I'm not a Bo Supporter, but.....

I can't vote for someone who has a atrocious death penalty record. ie Bush as Texas Gov.

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You must be pretty tall to overlook the mountain of dead unborn children...

I can't see over the mountain chain of Iraqi refugees and dead Iraqi's.

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Jurors and judges punish murderers by executing them, not governors.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299917,00.html

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WASHINGTON — President Bush, who presided over 152 executions as governor of Texas, wants to halt the state's execution of a Mexican national for the brutal killing of two teenage girls.

I wish we could get someone that does not support the War, doesnt support abortions or the death penalty!

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I think the GOP realizes that as long as they continue to paint the democratic party as the party of baby murderers,

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I think the GOP realizes that as long as they continue to paint the democratic party as the party of baby murderers,

No need to paint it, its that color already...

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