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ORIGINAL: saved9201

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I have to ask the question when does being pro-life end and who does it apply to? When I think pro-life I think ALL human life.

You want me to answer?

It doesnt apply to any one that is not an American Christian and then only a select few of them.

If say a baby in Africa, your out!

You look like a Moslem , your out.

You might have commited a crime, we will never know because we can't see the evidence because you never are going into a courtroom, you are out of here with glee!


WE only want life for americans that live in the 'burbs and go to big mega-Churches and only listen to contempory music, and shop at Walmart.

The rest are insurgents and it's ok to kill them!

Most of the causes you mentioned such as helping the underprivileged in Africa, reaching out to Muslims, contributing to legal defense funds for the poor, cost the Christian money, time, and/or effort.

In short, supporting the unborn doesn't cost you a dime, doesn't impose upon a minute of your time, and the "righteous indignation" expressed by those who support this and apparently no other cause, gives them a feeling of moral superiority as they look down with disdain over the rest of us who are deemed unworthy to be called Christians because we have equal compassion for those in need outside the womb.

But those people cost money.

-Julius

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ORIGINAL: rlj

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How can a person who claims to love Christ believe they can support a person who supports the murder of unborn children at the same time... Serving two masters...

The only candidate who is serious about abortion is Chuck Baldwin. How can christians who love christ honestly ridicule and critique other christians for saying they support the only candidate who wants to abolish abortion? Yet they do.

There are other issues besides abortion. I'm absolutely disgusted with an administration that would higher a group of thugs like Blackwater who would murder innocent Iraqi's for no apparent reason and get off with it. I'm disgusted over an administration that would intentionally fabricate and spin a war. (link here I'm thoroughly sick and tired of a party that claimed for my entire life that they were conservative and were fiscally responsible yet for 6 years they set record after record after record for number of earmarks, number of pork barrel spending addons to legislation, number of dollars for pork in each budget, worst deficits and coincidentally the dollar is eroded about 50% of what it was when Dubya took office.

It's real easy to overlook abortion when dealing with a lifetime of lies and sleaze from the so called party of "christians and Matt Foley and Larry Craig" that ran the government for 6 of the last 7.5 years.

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The hatred for pro-lifers among some here is repulsive. It's vile.

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Ouch!

Most of the causes you mentioned such as helping the underprivileged in Africa, reaching out to Muslims, contributing to legal defense funds for the poor, cost the Christian money, time, and/or effort.

Being a champion for the unborn costs nothing.

The unborn will never come to your door asking for a donation.
Churches never take up collections to feed the unborn.
There will never be a program for the unborn that will take a penny of your hard earned tax money.
Nobody ever had to go out and witness to the unborn.

All you have to do is vote for a republican every so often and "take a stand" in forums such as these, looking down on those of us who don't share your zeal for (apparently) the paramount cause in your life.

In short, supporting the unborn doesn't cost you a dime, doesn't impose upon a minute of your time, and the "righteous indignation" expressed by those who support this and apparently no other cause, gives them a feeling of moral superiority as they look down with disdain over the rest of us who are deemed unworthy to be called Christians because we have equal compassion for those in need outside the womb.

But those people cost money.

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ORIGINAL: tracydolls

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Ouch!

Most of the causes you mentioned such as helping the underprivileged in Africa, reaching out to Muslims, contributing to legal defense funds for the poor, cost the Christian money, time, and/or effort.

Being a champion for the unborn costs nothing.

The unborn will never come to your door asking for a donation.
Churches never take up collections to feed the unborn.
There will never be a program for the unborn that will take a penny of your hard earned tax money.
Nobody ever had to go out and witness to the unborn.

All you have to do is vote for a republican every so often and "take a stand" in forums such as these, looking down on those of us who don't share your zeal for (apparently) the paramount cause in your life.

In short, supporting the unborn doesn't cost you a dime, doesn't impose upon a minute of your time, and the "righteous indignation" expressed by those who support this and apparently no other cause, gives them a feeling of moral superiority as they look down with disdain over the rest of us who are deemed unworthy to be called Christians because we have equal compassion for those in need outside the womb.

But those people cost money.

Brother Julius!

You made my day! [sm=dance.gif]

I wish I had that gift. Put the cherrie on top!

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ORIGINAL: tracydolls

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The hatred for pro-lifers among some here is repulsive. It's vile.

There is a difference between against abortion and PRO-LIfers!

If you are for the death penalty and against abortion. You are NOT a Pro-life person, just someone against abortion.

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ORIGINAL: tracydolls

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Ouch!

Most of the causes you mentioned such as helping the underprivileged in Africa, reaching out to Muslims, contributing to legal defense funds for the poor, cost the Christian money, time, and/or effort.

Being a champion for the unborn costs nothing.

The unborn will never come to your door asking for a donation.
Churches never take up collections to feed the unborn.
There will never be a program for the unborn that will take a penny of your hard earned tax money.
Nobody ever had to go out and witness to the unborn.

All you have to do is vote for a republican every so often and "take a stand" in forums such as these, looking down on those of us who don't share your zeal for (apparently) the paramount cause in your life.

In short, supporting the unborn doesn't cost you a dime, doesn't impose upon a minute of your time, and the "righteous indignation" expressed by those who support this and apparently no other cause, gives them a feeling of moral superiority as they look down with disdain over the rest of us who are deemed unworthy to be called Christians because we have equal compassion for those in need outside the womb.

But those people cost money.

Brother Julius!

You made my day! [sm=dance.gif]

I wish I had that gift. Put the cherrie on top!

Equal compassion for those outside the womb? Oh, please. If liberals had the same compassion for those outside the womb that they do for those inside the womb, we wouldn't have enough caskets.

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The hatred for pro-lifers among some here is repulsive. It's vile.

There is a difference between against abortion and PRO-LIfers!

If you are for the death penalty and against abortion. You are NOT a Pro-life person, just someone against abortion.

Well...maybe we need a definition on what Pro-Life is. To me Pro-Life mean all human life.
Also, thanks for answering my question, good answer.


Since iJmac is the pro-life expert maybe he can explain. [8|]

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There is a VAST difference between defending one's country through military means, or executing a CRIMINAL who has already murdered, as opposed to the dismemberment of an unborn baby who has committed no crime against ANYONE (with the possible exception of being conceived at the wrong time).

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I would counter that it's equally odd that liberals mourn the deaths of criminals and enemies of the state, yet cheer on the murder of the unborn by thousands every day.

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Please don't tell me you're trying to use Scripture to justify the ripping of a child from his or her mothers' womb and calling it good in the eyes of God...

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The hatred for pro-lifers among some here is repulsive. It's vile.

There is a difference between against abortion and PRO-LIfers!

If you are for the death penalty and against abortion. You are NOT a Pro-life person, just someone against abortion.

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If we ever have a pro-life candidate, I will support him or her.

But all the anti-abortion people are pro-war, or pro-death penalty. Some are even pro-torture!

I am glad that conservatives (with a few notable exceptions) finally get it regarding the African pandemic, but they still have a long way to go before they can call themselves "pro-life." Ours is a culture of death and both parties are part of it.

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There is also a VAST difference between defending one's country through military means and starting a pre-emptive WAR.

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Uhh, who's cheering this on? I don't think conservatives cheer on executions, and I've never met a liberal who cheers on abortions.

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ORIGINAL: SovereignIsHe
I have seen/heard liberals CHEER when abortion rights are supported by law of court rulings... One in the same...

John

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ORIGINAL: blessedinnyc


Surely NRA members cheer pro-gun decisions;

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surely Conservatives cheer pro-death-penalty decisions.

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In any case, I think there's a distinction between cheering on when people are granted rights and when people choose to exercise those rights.

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will simply hand you a five gallon bucket with the remains of the unborn child... Maybe you can take it with your distinctions and ask God if He's pleased....

John

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ORIGINAL: SovereignIsHe
I have seen/heard liberals CHEER when abortion rights are supported by law of court rulings... One in the same...

John

Surely NRA members cheer pro-gun decisions; surely Conservatives cheer pro-death-penalty decisions. And don't forget the Americans who cheered the "shock and awe" campaign on Baghdad (where a lot of innocent people died.) Naturally, nobody knowingly cheered the deaths of innocent people, but surely, they had to have realized what it would have resulted in- just as you would argue that abortion rights rulings would result in abortions.

In any case, I think there's a distinction between cheering on when people are granted rights and when people choose to exercise those rights. When people are granted an individual right to carry weapons, a lot of people cheer. When people choose to use those weapons, fewer people are cheering.

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will simply hand you a five gallon bucket with the remains of the unborn child... Maybe you can take it with your distinctions and ask God if He's pleased....

John

Why do you have that? You are sick!