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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/5/2008 7:20:14 PM
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mapachito13
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Aside from treating everyone, regardless of race, creed, or color, as human beings worthy of the same respect, what do you propose we do?
By giving minorities a support mechanism to get them through the two roughest times of their educational lives; high school and college. This just doesn't consist of giving out tuition money in the form of grants but also support organizations that would give tutoring support, after school programs, counseling, etc. Anything that will keep them on track and prepare them for higher education.
Minorities can do the work, they just need a little more support because of their low socio-economic background. Minorities are over represented in the ranks of the poor and this has a historical basis for that. Declaring everything and everyone equal are not magic words that make the past injustices that have created the current uneven situation disappear.
I copied this from post #223 on the AA thread since I'd be saying the same thing.
I'll add one more analogy. It is like a town devastated by a natural disaster. The feds step in and give everyone the extra help they need to get back on their feet. Are the people not intelligent or hard working enough to do it by themselves? No. They just need a little extra help to get on their feet.
I take issue with the fact that some think that everything became "fair" after the slaves were freed. Segregation (remember separate but unequal?) existed in some states until the 1964 (within my lifetime) Civil Rights Act was passed and, even then, it took another decade to force the desegregation of schools which was resisted by many people. We are only into the second generation of people who grew up with the ideals of equality irregardless of race or ethnicity.
But the damage has been done to these communities and some extra help is needed. I think it's fair. I also think it's just.
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/5/2008 7:30:50 PM
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Not all american slaves were black.
Americans did not treat white people very well way back when either. From indentured servents to work place practices we would find horrendous today, there is no doubt early americans...and the rest of the world as well...was a very different place than it is today.
The comparison between the peoples of 1700's and today cannot be made. Hence, reparations have no basis in reality.
Most slave owners were agricultural. Whatever wealth was accumulated did not transfer any further than the life of individual farms....which I doubt few are in existance as they exited those years ago. So the wealth garnered did not pass down to this generation.
Also, do you know that the end of segrgation hurt many black businesses? Economically, desegregation hurt many black people.
From a legal standpoint is it still acceptable to practice racism in the work place? Nope. Is it stilla cceptable socially to be racist? Nope.
I just wonder...how much more do "whites" have to bend over to appease the minority component? What more do we have to do before we are "absolved" of our "evil acts"?
Do you think every german should be held accountable for Hitler's actions?
When does life become a personal responsibility and not a blame game?
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/5/2008 8:55:36 PM
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I just wonder...how much more do "whites" have to bend over to appease the minority component? What more do we have to do before we are "absolved" of our "evil acts"?
Thank you for saying this Soninme1, what most us were thinking, truth be told.
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/5/2008 10:49:35 PM
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It's been a while since I last posted. Couldn't figure out way, but now I remember. These forums are just like Washington D.C., righties and lefties arguing and resolving nothing. Probably won't see me again.
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 6:01:38 AM
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I think providing stats and information like you provided makes people more likely to face that part history than a museum with mammy and other caricature pictures. The first shocks one into stunned silence, the other - when viewed alone - might only invite joking or amusement.
Jimbo, the truth is mammy pics and caricature were a long part of the history of black america. For some years after Civil war till about 1960's, the only pics you see mostly are those. If you joke or amuse yourself with them alone, that's ok, we all laugh at painful things sometimes.
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The comparison between the peoples of 1700's and today cannot be made. Hence, reparations have no basis in reality.
Why? my tax dollars went to pay for the Japanese Reparations? I don't think I even know a Japanese person now. But I paid for what America did to them in 1944, years before I was born.
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Most slave owners were agricultural. Whatever wealth was accumulated did not transfer any further than the life of individual farms....which I doubt few are in existance as they exited those years ago. So the wealth garnered did not pass down to this generation.
But look at the slave owning families that owned 4000 slaves. Factory like plantations.
Oh, the wealth is there, it;'s been "washed" but if you are seroius about finding it, you can.
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/settlements/09483/hunt-refineries.html
""In a settlement reached, Hunt Refining Co. and Hunt Southland Refining Co. have agreed to pay a $400,000 civil penalty and spend more than $48.5 million for new and upgraded pollution controls at three refineries. The settlement resolves alleged violations of the Clean Air Act and is expected to reduce more than 1,250 tons of harmful emissions annually from the company's petroleum refinery in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, and asphalt refineries in Sandersville and Lumberton, Mississippi. ""
http://www.preserveala.org/gaineswood.aspx?sm=g_i
"""A National Historic Landmark, Gaineswood was by Nathan Bryan Whitfield. A cotton planter and Renaissance man of his time, Whitfield moved from North Carolina to Marengo County in 1834.""'
This is a tiny miniscule part of what I found out about my family.
I do geneology , I have helped alot of families find theirs.
BELIEVE ME the wealth is still in most of theses families hands.
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I just wonder...how much more do "whites" have to bend over to appease the minority component? What more do we have to do before we are "absolved" of our "evil acts"?
We can't absolve you. How about you just hate that it happened.
Saying that instead of:
I disagree.
I did'nt know.
Can't be true.
They did it toooo!
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I didn't figure I'd get a straight answer...
You did'nt ask a straight question 
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 7:38:58 AM
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I just wonder...how much more do "whites" have to bend over to appease the minority component? What more do we have to do before we are "absolved" of our "evil acts"?
Thank you for saying this Soninme1, what most us were thinking, truth be told.
AA has been aound for awhile. What "bending over" have you both had to do? I'd be very interested in the specifics!
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 7:59:35 AM
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But look at the slave owning families that owned 4000 slaves. Factory like plantations
Still does not change the fact that the wealth garnered by these plantations were lost to the end of slavery. Its gone.
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We can't absolve you. How about you just hate that it happened.
This is a very inflammitory statement and in grievious error. It...sounds like you are saying I hate the idea of racial equality? I would love racial equality but it...
will never happen until AA is long gone and dead.
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AA has been aound for awhile. What "bending over" have you both had to do? I'd be very interested in the specifics!
The constant cry of racism is nothing more than excusim and I for one am tired of hearing it. Its like...as a white person I have never been treated poorly or unfairly. That I owe part of our populace something just because of the color of their skin. THAT...defines racism to a tee.
I see this attitude at work all the time. One guy was so upset he got pulled over and blamed it on race. It didn't seem to matter to him he had a record and was caught with drugs.
The people I fired complained to the temp agency that placed them I was prejudiced but, they showed up late, if at all and when they did show up they were high....and not all of the people I fired were a minority either but because of who we hire, most were.
Stop blaming "society" and look to yourself. IF there truly is racism and you can prove it, sue.
AA has been around a while and it has served its purpose. Time..to let it die and judge people not on skin pigment or gender or whatever.
Ya know...the majority of white people are not racist....right?
Its not my fault your life isn't what you think it should be. "You" in a general sence, not directed at anyone.
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 8:07:40 AM
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This thread is reduced to:
"it's all about the money".
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 8:34:20 AM
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But the damage has been done to these communities and some extra help is needed. I think it's fair. I also think it's just.
I agree. And this has been done for the past 44 years. That's at least 2 generations with another one in diapers. The hand-up has been there that long. What's left to be done and for how long?
One thing that grates on me is the implication, whether intended or not, is that black Americans are somehow intellectually inferior to whites in similar socio-economic situations. I do not believe that it is so, but that's the message I'm hearing. Even the hanging-chad fiasco in Florida came across to me that the Dems insisted that if there were voters not bright enough to use the Florida ballots, it HAD to be their black constituents, that only white Republicans were smart enough to use them. It would have angered me enough to switch parties if mine had implied I wasn't as smart as the other party. Yet, not a peep was heard from Black Dems, they wore the implication like a badge of honor.
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 10:05:03 AM
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Not to mention the trillions of dollars spent on entitlement programs since the Great Society of the 60s. Where has it gotten us? Well, what used to be considered middle income people (maybe one car, one tv, and a small house or apartment) is now considered (by many) to be poverty. Now poverty is having less than 2 cars, 2 or 3 color tvs, several video games, cell phones, with all the bells and whistles, for each family member, etc. Now, don't get me wrong, there are people in REAL poverty, but our baseline has certainly shifted upward over the years.
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But the damage has been done to these communities and some extra help is needed. I think it's fair. I also think it's just.
I agree. And this has been done for the past 44 years. That's at least 2 generations with another one in diapers. The hand-up has been there that long. What's left to be done and for how long?
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 10:09:42 AM
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Why? my tax dollars went to pay for the Japanese Reparations? I don't think I even know a Japanese person now. But I paid for what America did to them in 1944, years before I was born.
You did? How much do or did you pay in taxes? Are you sure you paid more in taxes than you recieved in good, services and protection? Are your sure you paid in your fair share and didn't live on what others are paying in?
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I just wonder...how much more do "whites" have to bend over to appease the minority component? What more do we have to do before we are "absolved" of our "evil acts"?
From what I understand they want whites to be taxed on their assets as well as their income even when we know that wealth does not tend to last to the third generation. It's all about the money.
I am one of those "white people" who was run out of a black community and our home. We were forced out by the blacks. Had we stayed we probably would not have been alive today. That happened in the early 60's. I don't believe I or my family owes anyone anything. My parents had to leave their home and find a new place to live. They didn't get any inheritance and what they did own (their home in a black community) was pretty much destroyed by the community once we moved out.
I don't believe the "black community" owes me a thing. I don't care if they refuse to acknowledge what they did to us and the few other white families in that community or not. I just don't care. I am "passed it".
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 10:22:58 AM
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"""A National Historic Landmark, Gaineswood was by Nathan Bryan Whitfield. A cotton planter and Renaissance man of his time, Whitfield moved from North Carolina to Marengo County in 1834.""'
This is a tiny miniscule part of what I found out about my family.
You told me earlier that your family was the Whitfields from Mississippi.
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 10:50:26 AM
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I just wonder...how much more do "whites" have to bend over to appease the minority component? What more do we have to do before we are "absolved" of our "evil acts"?
Thank you for saying this Soninme1, what most us were thinking, truth be told.
AA has been aound for awhile. What "bending over" have you both had to do? I'd be very interested in the specifics!
How about the limits put on my speech. If i say anything negative about a black person im a bigot. I face this at work. I say i dont want obama for president because he wants to redistribute wealth, among many other reasons, what have i heard, "it's because he's black isnt it". Anyone else here work for the postal service like i do. Watch some of the "sensitivity" videos we have to watch. I cannot inquire about a black co-worker's son by asking " how's your boy doing", im not allowed to say "boy", i must use "young man" or "son". I "use" boy talking about my own son's. And that is just one example of the pile of eggshell's we have to walk on. How about affirmative action, my kids face an unfair advantage in competing for college placement, my kids aren't "entitled" to anything because they are white, other than a fair shot. Why cant i agree with Shelby steele, or Bill cosby when they tell their own communities to Quit blaming others for the mess your in without yet again being called a racist, i cant possibly agree with them because there right, no, it's because i hate. Reparations, ahh yes, this comes up every election cycle, as does yet another call for a national apology with white liberal politicians flagellating themselves on camera, wringing their hands and calling on us all to say we're sorry just one more time. I think slavery was an evil crime, but i didnt commit it, im not that old. I hate that it happened, i hate that the jew's were put into ovens, i hate that cain slew able, how far back are we gonna go?
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 4:02:24 PM
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how far back are we gonna go?
It's not that far back that segregation was law. It's within my lifetime and I'm still on the shy side of the half century mark!
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 4:13:25 PM
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how far back are we gonna go?
It's not that far back that segregation was law. It's within my lifetime and I'm still on the shy side of the half century mark!
No, how far back do we go before we can quit apologizing about those thing's we had no direct involvement in was my question. Were you responsible for segregation?. If so, by all means make amends.
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 4:22:04 PM
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But it's against the law now! There needs to be some forgiveness instead of the hatred for acts that were performed by people generations ago to people generations ago. I had nothing to do with any of it. You had nothing to do with any of it. Why must we continue to carry around this grudge that poisons our world today?
Luke 17:3 So watch yourselves. "If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. 4 If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, 'I repent,' forgive him."
We have repented. We are taking steps to correct past wrongs and to assure that they don't happen again. Please, we are Christians here in this forum. Let's act like Christians.
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how far back are we gonna go?
It's not that far back that segregation was law. It's within my lifetime and I'm still on the shy side of the half century mark!
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 6:03:49 PM
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We have repented. We are taking steps to correct past wrongs and to assure that they don't happen again. Please, we are Christians here in this forum. Let's act like Christians.
That's what AA is all about!
Sin has consequence. The consequence of man's sin is death. Jesus died on the cross as another consequence. Why didn't God just forgive us and that was that. Why did He have to send His Own Son to die to pay the price for OUR trangression? Because JUSTICE along with His infinite mercy are the heart of the law.
What's un-Christian about that?
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 7:04:47 PM
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That's what AA is all about!
Incorrect. It was what AA was about. Its not about that now.
Ask a black person who was alive during the 40's and 50's and ask them if things have changed in this country. I'll betcha...most of them cringe when they hear about how oppressed black people are today.
I don't hear racist remarks in the media today...except from the "black media". There is a hip hop station the guys listen to at work...mostly really bad hip hop, nasty stuff...but on Saturday morning they have this...community show on...and its pure racist. They speak absolute hate toward the white community...and its just eaten up without comment. A definite us against them mentality.
Division...and THAT is what is so bad about this prejudice being preached from some pulpits. Its just as bad for some churches to embrace the KKK as it is for some churches to preach this racial division.
God doesn't care about the color of your skin. He wants your heart and the same heart beats in all of us.
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 9:14:43 PM
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Absolutely things are better than the 40s and 50s, but that doesn't mean racism is no more.
As for that hate that you hear on Saturday morning. My guess is that a whole lot of that is response. I would suggest that you ask one of the guys that you work with and trust why they enjoy that show (ask as non-confrontationally as you can--assure him that you want an honest answer) and maybe ask him to explain to you any ways that he has experienced racism.
I've seen enough racism to understand why affirmative action is needed.
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/6/2008 9:51:54 PM
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I've seen enough racism to understand why affirmative action is needed.
It seems to me that most people think that racism is a sin that only white people can commit. I've even heard Al sharpton say that blacks cannot be racist because one has to come from a position of power to for it to be actualized.
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/7/2008 8:23:01 AM
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Absolutely things are better than the 40s and 50s, but that doesn't mean racism is no more.
So would you say basing hiring practices on race or gender alone isn't racism. It seems to define racism perfectly.
The times have changed. It is no longer socially acceptable to be racist. I guess in some parts of the country its more...under the table....but few people proudly claim to be racists. Wehn AA started this could not be said.
AA has done the work it was designed to do. AA cannot ever wipe out racism just like laws do not wipe out crime. Its part of the human condition, the fallen world we live in and until Jesus comes back, racism will always exist.
To say otherwise denies the truths in the bible.
Just because someone is stupid enough not to like you because of your race does not mean you suffer from racism. We ALL get called bad names.We all have been kept from employment for reasons other than viable ones.
Once again if you can prove racism, sue. There have been some rather successful law suits in recent years.
The laws work. If anything laws, like hate crime legislations, have gone the other way. Unfortunatly, guilt in some cases still drives our legislation.
To me AA has outlived its usefulness and now is a political tool some use to garner power....its not a way to end racism and it sure isn't something to make life...fair.
Fair? Whoever said life was fair? Jesus sure didn't.
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RE: Trinity's latest sermon - 6/7/2008 10:40:49 AM
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Still does not change the fact that the wealth garnered by these plantations were lost to the end of slavery. Its gone.
Now I showed you where some of my families money is, you still did'nt believe it.
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This is a very inflammitory statement and in grievious error. It...sounds like you are saying I hate the idea of racial equality? I would love racial equality but it...will never happen until AA is long gone and dead.
I've learned that the word african american is inflammatory, your not african! If I say black, your not black, everything is inflammatory if that's what your looking for. AA is going, you think racism is gone?
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I don't believe the "black community" owes me a thing. I don't care if they refuse to acknowledge what they did to us and the few other white families in that community or not. I just don't care. I am "passed it".
I agree, I am also pass wanting whites to correct this. I've learned that it will not be corrected. America will be caught with her slaves in her hands.
Thank G-d He never forgets and Her says He will take care of it.
In fact in Rev. 18 He says He will reward her DOUBLE. I have been wondering what is DOUBLE of what America has done?
Rev 18:5 For her sins joined together, even up to Heaven, and God has remembered her unjust deeds.
Rev 18:6 Reward her as she has rewarded you, and double to her double, according to her works. In the cup which she mixed, mix double to her.
Rev 18:7 As much as she has glorified herself and has lived in luxury, so much torment and sorrow give her. For she says in her heart, I sit as a queen, and I am not a widow; and I do not see mourning at all.
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You told me earlier that your family was the Whitfields from Mississippi .
You want the history? Glad to tell.
Gauis Whitfield owned 3 plantations, in Miss, Ala and Flo. His cousin Nathan Bryant, the owner of Gaineswood in Ala. Gauis married Nathan's sister and Nathan married his sister.
They intermarried(yuck!) so much they have trouble keeping a hold of them.
Your welcome to come to my site in ancestry.com or you can see the books they wrote on each other. Their geneology written by Emma Whitfield, I have a rare copy! It's a 1000 pages. The first Wiliam Whitfield to this country had 28 kids by 3 wives in 1683, so multiply that to now.
There's 30,000 whitfields counted in 2000 census. There's not one state that does not have a Whitfield, I looked just to satisfy my curiousity! Heck, I've talked to alot of them, searching for my people's.
I do geneology, I talk to their white geneologist, they know me, Tracy in MN. I exchange info, their info is spread across 12 states, in colleges, Churches, everywhere.
I've proven by records and DNA, my father tested with the group from Europe. Their records know of my line, this white whitfield never married a white woman, had all his kids by a black woman, right after Civil War, in their letters, etc. they are mad at him.
I've been cussed out by one, called N &^%&7 I sent him the kkk whitfield pics. And the whitfield that wrote Lincoln. I'm looking for mines. I don't care.
I've sent records to a white whitfield in Alabama, she says he been telling her hubby that she sees to many black whitfields, did his family own slaves? He's like no. It's been a 40 year thing with them. WAS GLAD to send the pages and pages of slaves auctions, reciepts, plantations records. I been paying for them for years now. I have 1000000000's of records, on disks, in file cabinets, online.
I myself have found MY whitfield cousins in 7 states, in Georgia, Ala, Miss, Calif, Missouri,Mich, LA. etc. we been connecting up, my whitfield line got separated in 1900.
The white town finally rose up and chased my gggrandmother who had kids by the white whitfield out of town, I'm still finding them, some passed for white and moved to Mich, got jobs, etc. Some stayed in Ala, Miss, LA. my line came to MN eventually, etc.
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Ask a black person who was alive during the 40's and 50's and ask them if things have changed in this country. I'll betcha...most of them cringe when they hear about how oppressed black people are today.
My father is 71 born in 1937 on a sharecropping plantation in LA. He says all they did was put up their white hoods and robes, and put on police uniforms and judges robes, become senators, etc. You wannna talk to him. He's a good storyteller, will have you crying and laughing at the same time.
(ebonics) Man, I be RMBAOTF! All the while it's a story about how massa whup him at 14, and he runned off and then spent 2 weeks in a HOT, little jail , hardly no food, off in the back woods, with a mean sheriff. I was like dad you ran away, he said gurl, I was a runaway!(ebonics off)
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I don't hear racist remarks in the media today...except from the "black media"
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Don Imus, you want the white supremecy websites, or just go to FBI.com, they will tell you hate crimes on on the rise, white supremecy groups are collecting weapons, storing, talking on the internet to each other in America, Canada, Germany, look up crimes against Jews in Europe. It's rising.
Read a book by Carl. T. Rowan, he marched with MLK and was a big intregrationist , also a newspaper person here in MN.
His last book, said forget it. There's gonna be a race war!
One of the things I would tell those people at Trinity. Stop the nonsense, we are not gonna beat them.
WE can't make America repent. We have nothing to make her repent. Nothing!
Forgive them. We have to forgive and love them.
That's what MLK knew, Follow Jesus. Non-violence, turn the other cheek.
Read his book" The STRENGTH TO LOVE"
It takes courage to love these people. IT's sooo very easy to hate them! But our reward is in HEAVEN.
I would tell them who Jesus was, the Son of GOD, who was born into a persecuted and colonized nation. He showed us how to do it. WE gotta stick with that.
LOVE THEM. PRAY for them. I cringe, cry, pray when I think of G-D's wrath, when I read about the seven bowls being dumped out, etc.
Do I wish that on anyone? NOPE.
I would tell them Matt. 5 : 24
But I would be honest. They did people wrong! But G-d will take care of it. He know's EXACTLY, every blood line. In the Bible He says He will lead the Egyptian and the Ethiopian out in chains.
We'll here we are.
I would tell them to Read Habbukkuk. That's where they are. The whites, Europeans, Cauacasians.
The Romans went North got some heathens(gauls, visgoths, celts, albinions) found them in the Caucasians moutains, but the Lord said He was gonna do it. Right here!
Hab 1:5 Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you.
Hab 1:6 For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not theirs
Hab 1:7 They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves.
Hab 1:8 Their horses also are swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves: and their horsemen shall spread themselves, and their horsemen shall come from far; they shall fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat.
Hab 1:9 They shall come all for violence: their faces shall sup up as the east wind, and they shall gather the captivity as the sand.
I think I am still AMAZED as first stated in the beggining of these verses.
But I would tell the congregration at Trinity.
Let G-d handle it. Submit it to Him. He is just. His judgement. Get rid of the hatred now, WE HAVE ONLY a short time. there's millions of dead people behind racism, those millions of africans that died, those white men from the Civil War from both sides!
Those little four girls in that Church in Alabama.
Lincoln, MLK, JFK,
But G-d got them saints. LET HIM DO IT! Only He knows what happened on that grassy knoll that day. He knows EXACTLY who put that bomb besides that Church. He knows who killed Malcolm they can deny it till Kingdom come!
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