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inthysite -> Obama's Victory Speech (6/4/2008 10:48:33 AM)

Yep, here it is, yet another thread about Obama.[:)]

After his speech all the pundits were raving at how great a speech it was, everyone in the audience was cheering, chanting, clapping. But then I was reminded about how everyone in Trinity church would clap, chant and applaud at the nonsense coming out of there. So I decided to actually read the speech he gave and see what it was he was saying. Here is what I came up with.

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They are Democrats from Des Moines and independents from Concord and, yes, some Republicans from rural Nevada. And we've got young people all across this country who have never had a reason to participate until now.


So the youth have never had any reason to participate in any election prior to Obama??

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So this will not be easy. Make no mistake about what we're up against. We're up against the belief that it's all right for lobbyists to dominate our government, that they are just part of the system in Washington,

But we know that the undue influence of lobbyists is part of the problem and this election is our chance to say that we are not going to let them stand in our way anymore.


Hey great, no more lobbyists -- Good Luck

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We're up against the conventional thinking that says your ability to lead as president comes from longevity in Washington or proximity to the White House. But we know that real leadership is about candor and judgment and the ability to rally Americans from all walks of life around a common purpose, a higher purpose.


Okay, for all of you who continue to say that this election should only be about the issues, Barack himself tells us different. He states "that real leadership is about candor and judgment" and his judgment has been way off. This is exactly why we pick apart everything he says, everything he does, everyone he knows. This is why I'm posting this thread, to show that what he says contradicts what he does. You will know them by their fruits!

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We're up against decades of bitter partisanship that cause politicians to demonize their opponents instead of coming together to make college affordable or energy cleaner. It's the kind of partisanship where you're not even allowed to say that a Republican had an idea, even if it's one you never agreed with.


He promotes bipartisanship and bringing together the parties and then gives a dig at Hillary. Now that's how you give a speech!

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We're up against the idea that it's acceptable to say anything and do anything to win an election. But we know that this is exactly what's wrong with our politics. This is why people don't believe what their leaders say anymore. This is why they tune out. And this election is our chance to give the American people a reason to believe again.


You mean like joining a church for political expediency, saying you cannot denounce that church any more than you could denounce the black race but then denouncing that church, denouncing your typical white grandmother, leaving your church of 20 years for political expediency.

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It's the politics that uses religion as a wedge and patriotism as a bludgeon, a politics that tells us that we have to think, act and even vote within the confines of the categories that supposedly define us,


He is the most liberal senator we've seen in years and has voted down party line a majority of the time

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the assumption that young people are apathetic, the assumption that Republicans won't cross over, the assumption that the wealthy care nothing for the poor and that the poor don't vote,


The assumption that people are bitter, clinging to their guns and religion

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We are here tonight to say that that is not the America we believe in.

I did not travel around this state over the last year and see a white South Carolina or a black South Carolina. I saw South Carolina.

I saw crumbling schools that are stealing the future of black children and white children alike. I saw shuttered mills and homes for sale that once belonged to Americans from all walks of life and men and women of every color and creed who serve together and fight together and bleed together under the same proud flag.


Then why does he quote the Rev. Wright in his book? ""White man's Greed versus a World in Need" Why did he sit in the pew for 20 years listening to the racist hatred spewed by their leaders? Why then when he denounced his church did he do it because his membership was hindering their worship by placing them in the spotlight, rather than for the racist comments made and basically calling Hillary a white supremest?

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There are those who will continue to tell us that we can't do this, that we can't have what we're looking for, that we can't have what we want, that we're peddling false hopes. But here is what I know. I know that when people say we can't overcome all the big money and influence in Washington, I think of that elderly woman who sent me a contribution the other day, an envelope that had a money order for $3.01 along with a verse of scripture tucked inside the envelope. So don't tell us change isn't possible. That woman knows change is possible.


Well shoot, if sending a small donation will get the candidate everything they want then heck, I'm sending $1.58 to John McCain!

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When I hear that we'll never overcome the racial divide in our politics, I think about that Republican woman who used to work for Strom Thurmond, who is now devoted to educating inner city-children and who went out into the streets of South Carolina and knocked on doors for this campaign. Don't tell me we can't change.


Ah, the race card. I was beginning to wonder if I would see it. Let's bring out ol' Strom Thurmond again. He can overlook the racism in his church but it's amazing that a woman who worked for Strom Thurmond could actually work with inner city kids.




rnershigh -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/4/2008 11:57:50 AM)

I think people are yearning for something different.
They want hope and Obama represents this hope to them, especially right now.

Unfortunately, I think he's just a more slick politician than McCain or Clinton.
If he does get elected President, he's going to disappoint a lot of people that's for sure.
I wonder where the blame will be placed when things go to hell when he's in the WH? (dare I say people will point fingers at Bush and his administration, you know, something along the lines of Bush left a mess to big for Obama to clean up in 4 years?)[8D]

He points out we need a President with good judgment, but he's already shown that when it comes to judgment, he is lacking (after all, he was friend with a man for 20 years and didn't know about his hate-filled ways?).
He's inexperienced, that isn't as bad if he knows how to pick good advisors, but that example I gave is just one reason why I fear he wouldn't surround himself with good people.

I think he may be the next President and if so, God help us all because I don't see anything changing at all.
As someone that lives outside Washington, it's laughable that he thinks we can just do away with lobbyists.
It's the way the game is played inside the beltway.
He knows that, but he's only telling people what they want to hear. [:o]

Anyways, is there anything he hasn't touched upon that needs change and that he can deliver it?LOL.




inthysite -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/4/2008 12:34:44 PM)

If Obama wins he will have what is currently looking to be a majority in both the house and the senate, with a controlling majority (60-64 seats) in the senate.

So I do see change coming however not for the better. I also think that if Obama wins he will only be POTUS for 1 term due to the mess our country will be in. It may be just what the Conservatives need to wake up.

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dare I say people will point fingers at Bush and his administration, you know, something along the lines of Bush left a mess to big for Obama to clean up in 4 years?)


Yes, of course this will be their mantra as it has always been. Carter is responsible for Reagan's success yet Bush is the sole heir to today's economy. The natural course of economics dictated the "recession" that started at the end of Bill's reign, etc... Dems are never to be blamed.

However, that being said, Obama has made it more than clear that this country is a mess due to Bush but he has also made it more than clear that he can correct it. So if/when he doesn't there will be no one to blame as like I said he will have had all the benefits of a democrat controlled house and senate. Therefore he won't be able to say that the Republicans stood in his way.




kernsfamily -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/4/2008 12:45:03 PM)

typical liberal....

he is having to spend SO MUCH time convincing the American people that we are "miserable"....and, that is socialist/marxist policies are the ANSWER for our "ills"...

well, obama....things are going great.....I, along with many, many others ARE "better off" than we were 8 years ago...even with this little "economic downturn" we are in right now, all because ALL CYCLES come to an end.....but, that doesn't get YOU elected....
Iam not buying your "Doom" and "gloom" message of "misery".....

I have yet ONCE hear him say a WORD about free markets, capitalism, and free enterprise....and, how great they have been in the success for America.....even today.....

The libs NEEDED this "downturn" in order to have a chance to win...since from DAY 1, they have declared George Ws presidency a "disaster".....DAY 1....and, have emphasized the negatives, while totally ignoring the positives (6+ years of strong economic growth)....consistently very low unemployment rates........if that's not being "bitterly partisan" i don't know what is....




inthysite -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/4/2008 1:19:10 PM)

Well once again I find myself apologizing. If nothing else at least I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong, not matter how embarrassing it may be.

Apparently I quoted the wrong speech, the one above is not the speech he gave last night. Sorry.[sm=error.gif] [sm=blush.gif][sm=hammerhead.gif][sm=shocked.gif][sm=tongue.gif][sm=wave.gif]

But that doesn't negate the fact that he said these things.




henny -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/4/2008 8:36:41 PM)

This is the speech he gave last night.

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2008/06/obama_at_xcel_b.php

He said quite a few nice things about Hilary, and now that the primary is over, I really do think he has become a stronger candidate because of his long fight with her. I wouldn't have predicted it two months ago, but I actually think it's possible now that they will team up.




colliefan -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/4/2008 8:57:30 PM)

didn't he say something to the effect that if he is elected global warming will cease?




Birdiecat -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 6:35:16 AM)

He's visited 57 states, spoke of fallen soldiers ... some were in his audience that day! His church, ministers, Farahkan, Million-Man March ... I'm scared of Obama and what he will do to this country. He stated in his book that he would stand by Muslims. He's not Christian ... abortion is better than his kids being "punished" with a baby. He makes me sick. McCain isn't my first choice but I'm going to do everything I can to try and keep Barack Hussein Obama out of the White House. He's a creep!




djv1255 -> The 3rd term of Clinton presidency (6/5/2008 8:23:22 AM)

Obama will be the 3rd term of the Clinton presidency. [:'(]
The only changes will be his name and his skin color.

[sm=smilecrossbone.gif]




lightshineon -> RE: The 3rd term of Clinton presidency (6/5/2008 8:57:50 AM)

I think he is a dangerous man, a very dangerous man. No, not because he is black, I am more weary of alot more white folks, I know at the moment. He is smooth, and I know many black people are proud of him being the first black candidate, and rightly so, on that point. I just guy's there is something about him, that is not right. I strongly disagree with his polocies, his arrogance, his church, and his talk is fluff. I know I will get rotten tomatoes thrown at me, and will be called racist ( not true), I know this though this will be a " I told you so thread" Many will see this is true soon after he takes office. I do know this if he wins, I will pray for him, he is our leader. Many should have prayed for GWB, also instead of critical spirits. So just remember if he wins, this post, and I will remember God sits kings on thrones and takes them down, for his reasons unknown to us.




DarleneSchreiber -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 9:04:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: colliefan

didn't he say something to the effect that if he is elected global warming will cease?


Ooooo...interesting! I didn't hear that, but I'd love to read/hear it if there's a link. Maybe he and Gore are in collusion! [:D]

Funny thing...studies have shown that the earth goes through warming and cooling periods, and that makes sense to me. Now, apparently, the earth is starting to go through its next cooling phase. Soooooo....maybe he knows that and is planning to take credit for it! [8|]

Things that make ya' go "hmmmmmm"!




djv1255 -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 9:15:57 AM)

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Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth.





DarleneSchreiber -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 10:14:46 AM)

My, my, my! I'm just waiting for his announcement that he has the cure for cancer and the common cold in his pocket! [8|]




relady -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 11:10:20 AM)

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I wonder where the blame will be placed when things go to hell when he's in the WH?
With all due respect, I think the person currently in the WH has already taken us there. It's a matter of can the next pres move us in the direction of getting out quickly enough that he won't be a one-termer.

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dare I say people will point fingers at Bush and his administration, you know, something along the lines of Bush left a mess to big for Obama to clean up in 4 years?
Ummm, well he has, so it's a valid observation.

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I, along with many, many others ARE "better off" than we were 8 years ago..
Well, I am happy for you and your friends, but I have to say that I don't personally have any really close friends who feel they are better off now than 8 years ago. My circle of friends has seen layoffs, rising health care costs not close to covered by raises, service sector $10 an hour jobs they are expected to take to replace their jobs that paid more than double that. And then they are told by the "right" that it's their fault when they lose their house. I could go on and on and on. Suffice it to say, that at least 50% of the country, probably more, is not feeling quite as well off as you. So you should thank God every day you are doing so well.




cow451 -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 11:15:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rnershigh

I think people are yearning for something different.
They want hope and Obama represents this hope to them, especially right now.



That's what got Carter elected (people were tired of Republican scandal and the Viet Nam collapse), Reagan people were tired of rampant inflation and having Iran holding hostages), Clinton ("It's the economy, stupid") and the current President (people were tired of being embarrassed by Clinton). Now it's lots of war-weary people worried about the economy. McLobby has to also represent change and new leadership if he is to beat Obummer.




relady -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 11:19:16 AM)

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McLobby has to also represent change and new leadership if he is to beat Obummer.
And he doesn't. At least not from what I hear him say. Voting for him would be like voting for a 3rd term for Bush. Maybe some differences that matter will become apparent as the campaign moves on, but my #1 issue this election is the war in Iraq followed very very closely by the Economy. On these two issues, McCain is a clone of Bush from what I've seen.




lightshineon -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 11:32:52 AM)

I am much better off also than eight years ago. I give Glory to God, not the democrats or Republicans though. I am twenty times better off than the democrat years, like I said though that is up to God in the long run. I am one of the twenty %, that likes Bush, I hate mob rule thinking for one thing. I have my own mind and thoughts. Obama is a dangerous man, and there may come the day * Hold on to your seats* when you wish Bush was back. I hope McCain wins, and it will be so. Yea.[:D]




djv1255 -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 11:39:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: relady

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McLobby has to also represent change and new leadership if he is to beat Obummer.
And he doesn't. At least not from what I hear him say. Voting for him would be like voting for a 3rd term for Bush. Maybe some differences that matter will become apparent as the campaign moves on, but my #1 issue this election is the war in Iraq followed very very closely by the Economy. On these two issues, McCain is a clone of Bush from what I've seen.

Voting for Obama is voting for a 3rd term for Clinton presidency and I don't want a 3rd term of that presidency.




kernsfamily -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 12:02:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: relady
I, along with many, many others ARE "better off" than we were 8 years ago..
Well, I am happy for you and your friends, but I have to say that I don't personally have any really close friends who feel they are better off now than 8 years ago. My circle of friends has seen layoffs, rising health care costs not close to covered by raises, service sector $10 an hour jobs they are expected to take to replace their jobs that paid more than double that. And then they are told by the "right" that it's their fault when they lose their house. I could go on and on and on. Suffice it to say, that at least 50% of the country, probably more, is not feeling quite as well off as you. So you should thank God every day you are doing so well.


gee....felt EXACTLY the same as you after 8 years of the clinton administration.....talk about a time where I struggled....

so, why does at least 50% of the country not "FEEL" quite as well off? ANY positive economic news, such as the 6+ years of strong economic growth was 'downplayed' and ignored....the years of "below average" unemployment rates....
BUT, one small "downturn" in the economy, because the cycle came to an end, then all talk was about how bad the economy is.....no wonder people "FEEL" not quite as well off....

most of your "points" aren't really the "domain" of who is in the white house, as much as the "politics" of your local and state governments.....in 1991, right after college, i had the foresight to get out of michigan to pursue my career, as the politics of that entire region are controlled by "outside interests" that make running a successful business almost impossible....it's NO WONDER they are always in an economic mess....and, that their unemployment rate is TWICE the national average....

now, i live in DFW...a world of difference....an area that companies (established, start ups, and foreign), flock to.

the unemployment rate is miniscule....the job market is robust....and, in the past 8 years i have had my share of layoffs, too......BUT, was in another position within 6 months all THREE times, and each job was better than the last.

just earlier this year, my company sold off a division...one that I worked in (it was a good business decision...just don't want to get bogged down in the details)....in the end, about 30 people's jobs were affected (it was a VERY small part of the company)....

OF those 30 people, 6 were "retained" by the company, and simply shifted into the remaining part of the company (that's what happened to me)...5 were immediately hired by the company that bought the division.....and, the remaining people were offered "retention bonuses" to stay with the company until the deal was "closed" (essentially 5 months advance notice that their job here was ending)....what happened in January, when the deal closed? NO ONE was left that was going to be laid off...everyone had already found excellent positions with other companies, and they had to leave to start those. (the company paid their "retention bonuses" anyway)....and, MANY are now in higher paying jobs than before (not to say that my company doesn't pay very well...it does....but, someone is always willing to pay more)




kernsfamily -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 12:11:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

I am much better off also than eight years ago. I give Glory to God, not the democrats or Republicans though. I am twenty times better off than the democrat years, like I said though that is up to God in the long run. I am one of the twenty %, that likes Bush, I hate mob rule thinking for one thing. I have my own mind and thoughts. Obama is a dangerous man, and there may come the day * Hold on to your seats* when you wish Bush was back. I hope McCain wins, and it will be so. Yea.[:D]


i get the feeling that people who are like us, and ADMIT we are "better off" over all through these 8 years, that sometime soon, a black van with tinted windows is going to pull up, and someone inside is going to snatch me, and i'll never been seen, or heard from again....
because WE are not supposed to exist...at least not admit it....because admitting to being "better off", gives the current administration some "indirect" "credit" for perhaps doing something right, and that's the last thing "the powers that be" need right now.
the economy has signs of rebounding from the slight "downturn"....and that has those people nervous and fearful....they NEED to convince people that, overall, the economy is horrible...that they are "miserable" in order to win....

as, we are all supposed to "believe' the rhetoric and nonsense that ALL of america is 'miserable'...that WE are supposed to be "miserable"....and, EVERYONE is struggling.....and Obama's big-government socialist agenda is "here to help us"...

here's an example: ever hear of the "disappearing" middle class? Its a LIE....a made up fairy tale..

read this recently from the U.S. Census:

The middle class isn't disappearing--it's moving up. The Census reports that the share of U.S. households earning $35,000 to $75,000 a year (in '06 dollars)--roughly, the middle class--has indeed shrunk slightly over the last decade, from 34% to 33%. But so, too, has the share earning less than $35,000--from 40% to 37%. It's the share of households earning more than $75,000 that's jumped--from 26% to 30%....




lightshineon -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 2:53:23 PM)

That is funny about the van, but so true. My elderly parents are even doing better.
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ORIGINAL: kernsfamily

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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

I am much better off also than eight years ago. I give Glory to God, not the democrats or Republicans though. I am twenty times better off than the democrat years, like I said though that is up to God in the long run. I am one of the twenty %, that likes Bush, I hate mob rule thinking for one thing. I have my own mind and thoughts. Obama is a dangerous man, and there may come the day * Hold on to your seats* when you wish Bush was back. I hope McCain wins, and it will be so. Yea.[:D]


i get the feeling that people who are like us, and ADMIT we are "better off" over all through these 8 years, that sometime soon, a black van with tinted windows is going to pull up, and someone inside is going to snatch me, and i'll never been seen, or heard from again....
because WE are not supposed to exist...at least not admit it....because admitting to being "better off", gives the current administration some "indirect" "credit" for perhaps doing something right, and that's the last thing "the powers that be" need right now.
the economy has signs of rebounding from the slight "downturn"....and that has those people nervous and fearful....they NEED to convince people that, overall, the economy is horrible...that they are "miserable" in order to win....

as, we are all supposed to "believe' the rhetoric and nonsense that ALL of america is 'miserable'...that WE are supposed to be "miserable"....and, EVERYONE is struggling.....and Obama's big-government socialist agenda is "here to help us"...

here's an example: ever hear of the "disappearing" middle class? Its a LIE....a made up fairy tale..

read this recently from the U.S. Census:

The middle class isn't disappearing--it's moving up. The Census reports that the share of U.S. households earning $35,000 to $75,000 a year (in '06 dollars)--roughly, the middle class--has indeed shrunk slightly over the last decade, from 34% to 33%. But so, too, has the share earning less than $35,000--from 40% to 37%. It's the share of households earning more than $75,000 that's jumped--from 26% to 30%....




henny -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/5/2008 4:05:27 PM)

Here's a clip from the daily show contrasting Obama's Speech with McCain's (As well as Hilary's). It's hilarious (scroll to the bottom for the video):

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Daily_Show_contrasts_Obama_McCain_speech_0605.html




lightshineon -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/6/2008 9:42:52 AM)

Benny, just because he is not smooth like BO, and Hillary, that does not make him dumb. I think it is dumb to think because someone is slick they are good. I think about Eve and the snake. When I was a single female, I could spot a smooth talker a mile away. I would not date them, because they had an agenda, and not for my benifit.
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ORIGINAL: henny

Here's a clip from the daily show contrasting Obama's Speech with McCain's (As well as Hilary's). It's hilarious (scroll to the bottom for the video):

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Daily_Show_contrasts_Obama_McCain_speech_0605.html




henny -> RE: Obama's Victory Speech (6/6/2008 2:02:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

Benny, just because he is not smooth like BO, and Hillary, that does not make him dumb.


Who said he's dumb?

He just needs a new PR person.




saved9201 -> RE: The 3rd term of Clinton presidency (6/6/2008 2:03:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: djv1255

Obama will be the 3rd term of the Clinton presidency. [:'(]
The only changes will be his name and his skin color.

[sm=smilecrossbone.gif]


With the price of gas as it is today, compared to when Clinton was president, I don't think McCain will be using THAT as his campaign slogan.

-Julius




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