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CherishedbyGod -> RE: Jesus Christ for President? (6/12/2008 8:00:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeff_from_Kentucky quote: ORIGINAL: Dragonnie Megachurches are too popular to be real. There is a biblical precedence for megachurches. Read Acts, Chapter 2, verses 40-47. That sounds like a megachurch to me. 3,000 people came to Christ after Peter's first sermon! I would sure love to see that happen now. I get excited every time I see one come to Christ! I can't imagine how exciting it would be to see 3,000! [sm=angel.gif]

Dragonnie -> RE: Jesus Christ for President? (6/12/2008 11:49:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rcjames quote: ORIGINAL: JimboFletch quote: ORIGINAL: Dragonnie Megachurches are too popular to be real. Would the 5,000 or the 4,000 in attendance that Jesus spoke to - and fed - be considered mega? Good point JimboFletch, just don't forget that after the covered dish supper when Jesus got serious about his teachings; all of them save the 12 boggied. (John 6:53-68) Thanks RC quote: ORIGINAL: Jeff_from_Kentucky quote: ORIGINAL: Dragonnie Megachurches are too popular to be real. There is a biblical precedence for megachurches. Read Acts, Chapter 2, verses 40-47. That sounds like a megachurch to me. 3,000 people came to Christ after Peter's first sermon! I would sure love to see that happen now. I get excited every time I see one come to Christ! I can't imagine how exciting it would be to see 3,000! True, I agree. But it also says they continued steadfast in the apostles' doctrine. Here I open a can of worms that's best for another thread: (or maybe another website--been nice knowing y'all.) Hagee, Osteen, Parsley, Laurie, Warren, Paul Crouch, etc, and their congregations are not "continuing steadfast in the apostles' doctrine Yes, a small or a large congregation can be in error. I've learned that even in a lovey-dovey congregation there can be heresy and rebellion against G d on the part of the leaders.

JimboFletch -> RE: Jesus Christ for President? (6/13/2008 8:36:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rcjames quote: ORIGINAL: JimboFletch quote: ORIGINAL: Dragonnie Megachurches are too popular to be real. Would the 5,000 or the 4,000 in attendance that Jesus spoke to - and fed - be considered mega? Good point JimboFletch, just don't forget that after the covered dish supper when Jesus got serious about his teachings; all of them save the 12 boggied. (John 6:53-68) Thanks RC The rest of the 12, save John, eventually boogied when Jesus was arrested. So should we, then, just abandon churches larger than 1 based on how many left? Oh, and 3,000 were added to the Church in one day in Acts, the book often cited to show both small and home churches are the proper way to go. In my humble view, adding another 3,000 is a mighty big home and a mighty big church.

rcjames -> RE: Jesus Christ for President? (6/13/2008 11:56:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JimboFletch The rest of the 12, save John, eventually boogied when Jesus was arrested. So should we, then, just abandon churches larger than 1 based on how many left? Oh, and 3,000 were added to the Church in one day in Acts, the book often cited to show both small and home churches are the proper way to go. In my humble view, adding another 3,000 is a mighty big home and a mighty big church. I also think that "Smaller" Churches (50-200) do a much better job of ministering to the adherents. I think we should boggie from any Church that does not preach the whole Gospel, and/or does not minister to the needs of its members (in teaching, growth, care, love, etc.) As for Christ being president; when he start teaching that if you don't work you don't eat, he would be blackballed. Thanks RC

JimboFletch -> RE: Jesus Christ for President? (6/13/2008 12:19:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rcjames I also think that "Smaller" Churches (50-200) do a much better job of ministering to the adherents. IMHO, that's only true if the ministering is limited to the pastor and staff, in which case, the pastor isn't doing his job very well.

kernsfamily -> RE: Jesus Christ for President? (6/16/2008 9:14:51 AM)
quote: Hagee, Osteen, Parsley, Laurie, Warren, Paul Crouch, etc, and their congregations are not "continuing steadfast in the apostles' doctrine well, then that's something WRONG with their SPECIFIC and INDIVIDUAL church.....and, those problems are NOT "exclusive" to churches of a "larger than average" size. To say that "ALL mega churches" are not "continuing steadfast in the apostles' doctrine" is like saying all much smaller churches are "unwelcoming" and look upon "visitors" as "intruders" (a common occurance from my "experience" when visiting other churches, but I know well enough that doesn't apply to ALL....or even MOST smaller churches)... All churches are INDIVIDUAL congregations....a small church can be just as "bad" as a "mega" one can....

kernsfamily -> RE: Jesus Christ for President? (6/16/2008 9:36:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JimboFletch quote: ORIGINAL: rcjames I also think that "Smaller" Churches (50-200) do a much better job of ministering to the adherents. IMHO, that's only true if the ministering is limited to the pastor and staff, in which case, the pastor isn't doing his job very well. and, some much, much larger churches "minister to the adherents" better some of those churches with "only" 200. As far as baptizing and 'adding to their numbers'.....our church baptizes about 1100 or so a year....(not quite 3000 at a time).....are "all" of those "added" to "our numbers"? Well, numbers to "God's Kingdom", yes. To our church membership? No. Many do end up being added to our large congregation....yet, many others, who were led to Christ, perhaps as a result of one of the many outreach ministries of our church, and then after "accepting Christ" decide that God is leading them to another of the MANY local congregations (for a multitude of reasons)....if necessary, our church staff will help those people find a congregation that is "right for them".... each congregation is individual and different....and, to say that one is "better than the other" merely because of it's size, well, you would be mistaken....

tracydolls -> RE: Jesus Christ for President? (6/16/2008 11:48:01 AM)
What Jesus talks about would get him probaly killed now if He ever came to America. Imagine His Sermon now? You fat, bloated, greedy.......lol!

Dragonnie -> RE: Jesus Christ for President? (6/16/2008 11:43:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kernsfamily quote: Hagee, Osteen, Parsley, Laurie, Warren, Paul Crouch, etc, and their congregations are not "continuing steadfast in the apostles' doctrine well, then that's something WRONG with their SPECIFIC and INDIVIDUAL church.....and, those problems are NOT "exclusive" to churches of a "larger than average" size.... All churches are INDIVIDUAL congregations....a small church can be just as "bad" as a "mega" one can.... of all the many tv and TBN megachurches, i don't know of any that are "earnestly contending for the faith" that was first delivered to us, and obeying the scriptures that say to "rebuke, and give attention to correct doctrine". quote: ORIGINAL: rcjames As for Christ being president; when he start teaching that if you don't work you don't eat, he would be blackballed. Thanks RC He would also uphold the scripture that says not to give to young widows who are living ungodly.

CCCdnt -> RE: Jesus Christ for President? (6/19/2008 2:28:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 1dblthnk02 quote: ORIGINAL: rcjames Jesus would have a lot of problems getting the liberal and minority vote if he held to the New Testament line of; If you don't work you don't eat. Paul said that. Point being?

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