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RE: Who can administrate communion - 6/9/2008 2:13:52 PM
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d1sturbanc3
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Could someone give me some Scripture, any Scripture, or a peice of Scripture that delegates the administration of communion to any particular people, office, or delagate.
If not; then nuff said.
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You can't argue that. The bible makes no direct mention of pornography, gossip, the sanctity of life, but we believe in certain way because of what the bible implies.
Using your argument or logic, because the bible doesn't mention pornography it isn't wrong.
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RE: Who can administrate communion - 6/12/2008 5:56:54 PM
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Jesus was the one in the Bible who administered the first communion. We are His body. I do not see any part of the Bible that prohibits any member of his body from giving communion. We are His hands and feet.
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RE: Who can administrate communion - 6/12/2008 6:26:48 PM
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You can't argue that. The bible makes no direct mention of pornography, gossip, the sanctity of life, but we believe in certain way because of what the bible implies.
Porn: Matthew 5:27-28
Gossip: 1 Timothy 5:13, 2 Corinthians 12:20, Proverbs 20:19
Sanctity of Life: Genesis 9:6
Seems pretty direct to me.
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Jesus was the one in the Bible who administered the first communion. We are His body. I do not see any part of the Bible that prohibits any member of his body from giving communion. We are His hands and feet.
Exactly! Considering how important communion is for the Christian, and the fact that Paul addresses things that were being done improperly with regards to it, you would think that, if only certain types of people were supposed to administer it, Scripture would be much more explicit.
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RE: Who can administrate communion - 6/12/2008 7:27:56 PM
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Jesus was the one in the Bible who administered the first communion. We are His body. I do not see any part of the Bible that prohibits any member of his body from giving communion. We are His hands and feet.
If "communion" was instituted at "the last supper", then it was part of a Pesach(Passover) Seder. We are told to observe it at the appointed time, but we are not given much direct instruction on how to do that.
As has been pointed out there is a lot of controversy regarding Pesach/communion and it would take quite a while to sort out all of the details. That iis probably why Paul said we should not let anyone criticize us on how we keep the Shabbats(Holy Days) as long as we keep them.
This is my take on what we should do. We are not told directly who should officiate. We are told that participants should be circumcised. I know there is controversy regarding this practice, but that is what the Scripture says. Therefore, one whould expect the officator to be circumcised.
We do have direct commands regarding how the first Seder was to be conducted. The current Seder is derived from a reinactment and recounting of that Seder. The Scriptures appear to imply that the Seder should be held in our homes and be officiated by the head of household.
Now many denominations perform rites derived from Yeshua's(Jesus') Pesach Seder and one would have to look at the various instructions for each denomination to determine their reasoning. The limited direct instruction from Adonai combined with the various Seders that had been developed by Paul's time is probably why he said we should not let anyone criticize us on how we keep the Shabbats(Holy Days) as long as we keep them.
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RE: Who can administrate communion - 6/13/2008 1:16:15 PM
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bgwill3
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This is my take on what we should do. We are not told directly who should officiate. We are told that participants should be circumcised. I know there is controversy regarding this practice, but that is what the Scripture says. Therefore, one whould expect the officator to be circumcised.
Where are we told that "participants should be circumcised"?
Are you referring to Seder or to communion? Or to both?
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RE: Who can administrate communion - 6/13/2008 1:24:07 PM
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I am in agreement with several others, specifically ta_mosquito. In a small group setting, I wouldn't have a problem with a brother or sister in the Lord "leading" the prayer aspect and distribution of the bread/wine (or grape juice, as some use).
The most important lesson about communion that I take from Scripture is that the Lord Jesus (particularly his death) is central to it. ("Ye do show the Lord's death till he come" 1 Corinthians 11:26).
I think it is phenomenal to be free to consider in one's heart such a question, and to come to an understanding for oneself as to how to participate in, and how to express your convictions on, holy communion.
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RE: Who can administrate communion - 6/13/2008 2:12:33 PM
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This is my take on what we should do. We are not told directly who should officiate. We are told that participants should be circumcised. I know there is controversy regarding this practice, but that is what the Scripture says. Therefore, one whould expect the officator to be circumcised.
Where are we told that "participants should be circumcised"?
Are you referring to Seder or to communion? Or to both?
Since "communion" is a rite derived from Yeshua's(Jesus') Pesach(Passover) Seder, I see them as one and the same. This is the reference regarding that requirement.
Ex 12:48 "An alien living among you who wants to celebrate the Lord's Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat of it.
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RE: Who can administrate communion - 6/13/2008 2:23:08 PM
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JimboFletch
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Could someone give me some Scripture, any Scripture, or a peice of Scripture that delegates the administration of communion to any particular people, office, or delagate.
If not; then nuff said.
Thanks
RC
I agree with you, scripture does not make administering communion a function of an ordained person, only that it be done intentionally in remembrance of Jesus. One could even make the argument that even baptism doesn't require clergy because of Phillip & the Ethiopian.
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