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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/16/2008 6:21:27 PM
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RogerBennett_Fan
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I would like to give my take on the way groups dress. I am a pastor, and we dress casual. I was raised to wear a suit and tie to church, no matter what. However, I have noticed in my many years, that the days of men wearing suits to church, is ALMOST a thing of the past. These days, MOST men don't even own a suit. So, we decided to "go casual". The worship team, band, and anyone in leadership, still dresses nice, but NO SUITS. I invited a southern gospel group recently to sing for the morning service, and told them they didn't have to wear suits and ties. They wore them anyway. They looked like funeral home directors. I did not wear a suit, and I am the pastor. The group just looked out of place.
Yes, I believe you should look your best. However, sometimes suits and ties can make some unapproachable.
Groups- Look at the way the pastor and staff dresses, and dress approapriate.
The "MOST MEN" you talk about are not the "MOST MEN" that I know. I know ALOT of guys that own a suit and tie, and they look, oh let me see, how do I want to say this.......PROFESSIONAL.
EDIT: let me explain further my position. I don't think casual is wrong or that you MUST always wear a suit and tie, but I think that the church is in a spiraling downward path of giving up things that are good. To me, this is just one more thing of many. First the KJV to, no, not one other version but MANY versions, meeting less often, getting more wordly (in all ways--this includes dress), in faith, etc. Someone said the church is at any time only 10 years behind the world, so as the world degresses, so the church follows only 10 years behind. Does this makes sense?
I totally AGREE!!!! When I walk into a concert, I want to be able to distinguish the group members from the audience, ie. suits & ties. Now if they are singin' outside and it's 100 degrees, that's another story -even so, they can still dress nice (something better than jeans and a t-shirt).
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I would like to give my take on the way groups dress. I am a pastor, and we dress casual. I was raised to wear a suit and tie to church, no matter what. However, I have noticed in my many years, that the days of men wearing suits to church, is ALMOST a thing of the past. These days, MOST men don't even own a suit. So, we decided to "go casual". The worship team, band, and anyone in leadership, still dresses nice, but NO SUITS. I invited a southern gospel group recently to sing for the morning service, and told them they didn't have to wear suits and ties. They wore them anyway. They looked like funeral home directors. I did not wear a suit, and I am the pastor. The group just looked out of place.
Yes, I believe you should look your best. However, sometimes suits and ties can make some unapproachable.
It's not the dress that make a person unapproachable, I think we can all agree when you get right down to it, bottom line, it's the attitude. There are just as many unapproachable in jeans and a t-shirt as there are in suits and ties.
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/16/2008 6:29:09 PM
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I would like to give my take on the way groups dress. I am a pastor, and we dress casual. I was raised to wear a suit and tie to church, no matter what. However, I have noticed in my many years, that the days of men wearing suits to church, is ALMOST a thing of the past. These days, MOST men don't even own a suit. So, we decided to "go casual". The worship team, band, and anyone in leadership, still dresses nice, but NO SUITS. I invited a southern gospel group recently to sing for the morning service, and told them they didn't have to wear suits and ties. They wore them anyway. They looked like funeral home directors. I did not wear a suit, and I am the pastor. The group just looked out of place.
Yes, I believe you should look your best. However, sometimes suits and ties can make some unapproachable.
Groups- Look at the way the pastor and staff dresses, and dress approapriate.
The "MOST MEN" you talk about are not the "MOST MEN" that I know. I know ALOT of guys that own a suit and tie, and they look, oh let me see, how do I want to say this.......PROFESSIONAL.
EDIT: let me explain further my position. I don't think casual is wrong or that you MUST always wear a suit and tie, but I think that the church is in a spiraling downward path of giving up things that are good. To me, this is just one more thing of many. First the KJV to, no, not one other version but MANY versions, meeting less often, getting more wordly (in all ways--this includes dress), in faith, etc. Someone said the church is at any time only 10 years behind the world, so as the world degresses, so the church follows only 10 years behind. Does this makes sense?
Please don't take this wrong but I don't know how you equate dressing in a modest and casual way to giving in to many loose translations of the beloved KJV bible.
I think the key to understanding what Tina is saying is in the thought that the church is only ten years behind the world - it is degressing even though God hasn't changed His standards.
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/16/2008 6:30:33 PM
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I understand what you're saying bassinger. I am a (kindergarten) teacher, and I tend to feel more professional/effective when I am dressed up. It's not that I don't do my job well in blue jeans, but I just feel more professional dressed up. I get it!! 
Mrs. Kerrlaw taught Kindergarten and/or Transition (pre-first) for 14 years and has taught Second Grade for ten years. Before that she had her own pre-school for several years.
I admire you if you can dress up and keep clean teaching Kindergarten. Mrs. K comes home with hand prints, glue, paint, glitter, etc. all over her. Because of this she dresses casually to teach.
However, I believe that singers, teachers, and everybody else should dress in the way they feel most comfortable.
Maybe I should have been more clear. When I say "dressed up" (for a kindergarten teacher), I'm talking about twill pants, or a skirt. I'm definitely not talking about wearing an evening gown to work!
Yes, it gets messy sometimes in kindergarten. And I don't always wear skirts and twill pants, but when I do I kind of feel more professional.
However, if you read my previous post in this thread, you will see that I am in favor of people dressing however they feel the most comfortable.
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/16/2008 7:49:49 PM
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I would like to give my take on the way groups dress. I am a pastor, and we dress casual. I was raised to wear a suit and tie to church, no matter what. However, I have noticed in my many years, that the days of men wearing suits to church, is ALMOST a thing of the past. These days, MOST men don't even own a suit. So, we decided to "go casual". The worship team, band, and anyone in leadership, still dresses nice, but NO SUITS. I invited a southern gospel group recently to sing for the morning service, and told them they didn't have to wear suits and ties. They wore them anyway. They looked like funeral home directors. I did not wear a suit, and I am the pastor. The group just looked out of place.
Yes, I believe you should look your best. However, sometimes suits and ties can make some unapproachable.
Groups- Look at the way the pastor and staff dresses, and dress approapriate.
The "MOST MEN" you talk about are not the "MOST MEN" that I know. I know ALOT of guys that own a suit and tie, and they look, oh let me see, how do I want to say this.......PROFESSIONAL.
EDIT: let me explain further my position. I don't think casual is wrong or that you MUST always wear a suit and tie, but I think that the church is in a spiraling downward path of giving up things that are good. To me, this is just one more thing of many. First the KJV to, no, not one other version but MANY versions, meeting less often, getting more wordly (in all ways--this includes dress), in faith, etc. Someone said the church is at any time only 10 years behind the world, so as the world degresses, so the church follows only 10 years behind. Does this makes sense?
Please don't take this wrong but I don't know how you equate dressing in a modest and casual way to giving in to many loose translations of the beloved KJV bible.
I think the key to understanding what Tina is saying is in the thought that the church is only ten years behind the world - it is degressing even though God hasn't changed His standards.
Hey from what I've seen on TV and elsewhere alot of churches are only 10 minutes behind the world. Wearing casual clothes,suits, or jeans isn't going to hurt it that much.
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/16/2008 7:53:40 PM
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Hey from what I've seen on TV and elsewhere alot of churches are only 10 minutes behind the world. Wearing casual clothes,suits, or jeans isn't going to hurt it that much.
You got that right! It's sad, really.
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/16/2008 9:27:23 PM
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Funny "dressing" story. A couple years ago I was invited to an awards dinner and the people that where hosting the dinner were freaking out until I got there. The invitations were sent and dress was listed as "Business Attire" and they all know that I work in shorts and a t-shirt about 75% of the time and jeans and a t-shirt the other 25%. They were sure worried that I was GOING TO SHOW UP in MY business attire. lol (No...even I own some suits)
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/16/2008 9:32:58 PM
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My business attire now is a suit. However in the past I had to be careful. Business attire was a uniform complete with badge, Sam Brown and weapon. I bet that would raise an eyebrow or two.
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/16/2008 9:35:09 PM
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My business attire now is a suit. However in the past I had to be careful. Business attire was a uniform complete with badge, Sam Brown and weapon. I bet that would raise an eyebrow or two.
Are you in the same field of work just moved up a notch now?
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/16/2008 9:36:36 PM
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6ft 4 inch fat boys have a hard time finding nice clothes to!
I agree Rodney, WE sure do lol
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/16/2008 9:39:40 PM
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LOL QTman, maybe it was just a sideways move with more responsibility and you hear more folks gripe
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/17/2008 12:27:04 AM
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Hey 6ft 4inch fat boys have a hard time finding nice clothes to! Seems the clothing people think if your that height you should have a 30inch or smaller waist. Also you arms should be 13 inches long. Man I hate buying a 3x shirt and raising my arms only to have the sleeves shoot up past my elbows!
I feel your pain, though in the opposite direction. I wear 28 inseam pants. 30s drag the ground. I'm 5' 9", which is actually considered to be the precise average height of an adult male in the United States according to this Wikipedia entry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height
The ratio of my inseam to my overall height must be considerably less than average. What would a 5' 5" guy with a similar ratio do? It's seems like Sears, Belk, JC Penney, Levis, Dockers, Wrangler, etc. have collectively assumed all men in the US have inseams of 30" or 32"...with VERY few exceptions. Once in a while, I can find a 29" inseam pair on the shelf, but I have to go through the entire inventory in my waist size (which I will refrain from mentioning at this juncture).
Blair sells men's twill pants online in a 28" inseam, but I've found the quality of their products is always lower than most other name brands. Anyone else have a similar problem shopping for clothes?
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