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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/20/2008 4:10:33 PM
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That's me. Bassinger24 but the mic down and step slowly away!!!!!!!!
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/20/2008 8:55:45 PM
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Sam, don't forget I have more weaps than po-po does. LOL.
well, I found a tenor singer that believes same as me. not compromising. I will wear a blazer and polo shirt with slacks. but dress shirts on rare occasion. I literally won't be caught dead in a tie. except when in my Class "A" s and thats because army requires one.
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/20/2008 9:31:41 PM
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used to have hair to my waist. so I know about long hair. and yes am a guy folks
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/20/2008 11:46:46 PM
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question on this thread pondering a message way back.
this deals with the old folks "Sunday Best" comment.
if my best clothes I own is a simple shirt and jeans, does that make me less a"Christian" than the rich man who wears Armani type monkey suits?
something to him haw in ya brains abit
simply because I won't own a suit. much less a tie.
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/23/2008 3:59:09 AM
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In a secular setting dress is totally at the will of the performer, but in a gospel setting, if they are merely entertaining, then dress is much like the worldly events. When they are MINISTERING I truly feel the message needs to be backed up with an image that is professional and shows some holiness. After all the Bible does tell us that without holiness no man shall see heaven. I think the crowd that is being ministered to, especially those who are not Christians are going to look at a group with more respect and a feeling that they are ministering the Gospel of Jesus Christ if they are dressed very well. There's a strong heritage in Southern Gospel Music, and I think we've gotten way too far away from the heritage and image that built this genre of music. It just looks better to be able to put as much distinction as possible between those ministering the gospel and the worldly entertainers we might expect to see on stage in a secular venue. I think the suit and tie do re-enforce the message. It's more serious and presents the message as serious and not just a casual thing of which they sing. It shows that the group singing has a strong respect for God and His message. We're talking about the salvation message here and that's nothing to be taken lightly. I think appearance matters quite a lot. I know I feel better listening to a group that looks like preachers as opposed to Nashville stars. It at least gives the appearance that they take their ministry serious and are trying their best to live the best they can in God's eyes and in the eyes of the world.
Roger Bennett's song "When the world looks at me what do they see?" is a question we often forget to ask ourselves. Standards I suppose is what I'm referring to here. It just helps that's groups standards to be presented in their message. Glen Payne for one would never take off his jacket on stage no matter how hot he was because he felt very strongly about the image he should set on stage as a minister of the Gospel. It might not be that big of thing to most people in today's world, but I sure don't think it hurts anything either to have that extra special touch and know you're giving it your best shot in the way you present yourself to the audience.
A suit and tie appearance demands respect to some degree, where casual dress just doesn't focus as much attention on the message being relayed. Well, just my two cents worth and not everyone will agree.
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/23/2008 4:10:36 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life
question on this thread pondering a message way back.
this deals with the old folks "Sunday Best" comment.
if my best clothes I own is a simple shirt and jeans, does that make me less a"Christian" than the rich man who wears Armani type monkey suits?
something to him haw in ya brains abit
simply because I won't own a suit. much less a tie.
I understand what you're saying but I suspect if you decided to run for President of the United States (and I wish someone would) you'd probably go out and buy a nice suit and tie and spruce up your image a bit to attract voters. If politicians understand this concept then those on stage ministering about the gospel message they're passionate about delivering, should as well. It commands respect much like a military dress uniform. It speaks of self discipline and personal pride in appearance. If you're just an old joe blow like me then t-shirt and jeans are fine. But I don't have much of an audience to captivate either.
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/23/2008 4:38:54 PM
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quote:
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question on this thread pondering a message way back.
this deals with the old folks "Sunday Best" comment.
if my best clothes I own is a simple shirt and jeans, does that make me less a"Christian" than the rich man who wears Armani type monkey suits?
something to him haw in ya brains abit
simply because I won't own a suit. much less a tie.
I understand what you're saying but I suspect if you decided to run for President of the United States (and I wish someone would) you'd probably go out and buy a nice suit and tie and spruce up your image a bit to attract voters. If politicians understand this concept then those on stage ministering about the gospel message they're passionate about delivering, should as well. It commands respect much like a military dress uniform. It speaks of self discipline and personal pride in appearance. If you're just an old joe blow like me then t-shirt and jeans are fine. But I don't have much of an audience to captivate either.
yes but you still didnt answer the question. and yes I keep my military uniform immaculate. I will have it dusted off by some higher ranks if I didnt show myself professional. but that is my job.
I do not own a suit. does that mean I can't sing SG music because of that?
thats the question I am asking.
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/23/2008 4:58:32 PM
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thank you tenorsister.
and no it does not mean that I am any less a "Christian" than the rest. in fact, I take my walk with Christ too serious some may think. but God placed a fire and desire in me to be on fire for Him.
like my pastor preached yesterday and i looked the greek and hebrew meanings up to make sure i took the notes right. well notes when i wasnt on my feet praising the Lord. God calls for His people to praise Him with a loud voice, to praise Him foolishly*sp*. is other parts to it.
and David threw his outergarmets to the side to praise the Lord. so i can't dress modest and simple? when David of the Bible was clothed yet without outergarmets?
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/25/2008 9:44:43 PM
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Darien8869
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quote:
ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life
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ORIGINAL: Darien8869
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ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life
question on this thread pondering a message way back.
this deals with the old folks "Sunday Best" comment.
if my best clothes I own is a simple shirt and jeans, does that make me less a"Christian" than the rich man who wears Armani type monkey suits?
something to him haw in ya brains abit
simply because I won't own a suit. much less a tie.
I understand what you're saying but I suspect if you decided to run for President of the United States (and I wish someone would) you'd probably go out and buy a nice suit and tie and spruce up your image a bit to attract voters. If politicians understand this concept then those on stage ministering about the gospel message they're passionate about delivering, should as well. It commands respect much like a military dress uniform. It speaks of self discipline and personal pride in appearance. If you're just an old joe blow like me then t-shirt and jeans are fine. But I don't have much of an audience to captivate either.
yes but you still didnt answer the question. and yes I keep my military uniform immaculate. I will have it dusted off by some higher ranks if I didnt show myself professional. but that is my job.
I do not own a suit. does that mean I can't sing SG music because of that?
thats the question I am asking.
Let's back up a minute... didn't mean to ruffle feathers. Just giving an opinion. To answer your question very directly, NO not wearing a suit doesn't mean you can't sing Southern Gospel Music. I'm simply saying that IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, those who go the extra mile to present themselves a bit more professionally, usually garner more respect and a better image to their audience. Now let me also point out something you said in your last reply.
"I will have it dusted off by some higher ranks if I didnt show myself professional. but that is my job. " Forget the higher rank part for a moment......... but showing yourself professional..........and "That's my job". It's the same for full time Southern Gospel Artists traveling the country to minister through music. It's their job, but more importantly to them, It's their CALLING, and to take pride in their appearance on stage is much like taking such pride in making sure your military dress uniform is immaculate. Isn't the ministry to one who is called as important as the pride a soldier has is his life work? In my opinion, both the minister and the soldier stand head and shoulder above the rest. Thanks God for both and I personally like to see both display the character of such a high calling, and all the pride they have in what sets them apart from the rest.
I don't frown on anyone who doesn't dress that way, but it's what I prefer to see and what I think looks more like the image Southern Gospel Music has always been known to set.
In response to the other comment about the family of the singers, well, that's entirely up to them to figure out how their dress corresponds to their loved one on stage. But I know if I went to a funeral with my spouse and she was dressed to the hilt, I probably wouldn't want to wear cutoffs and a t-shirt. The contrast might be a bit too much for comfort, but hey, to each their own.
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/25/2008 9:58:51 PM
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Other people's perceptions have a lot to do with why I dress up to sing, wearing a shirt and tie even in a casual restuarant situation most of the time
Just the other day I was wearing Cargo shorts, Golf shirt and tennis shoes to go run some errands. I decided stop in the local Burger King where they have a singing with local/regional artists to see some friends of mine sing.
Even though I wasn't there to sing several people made comments to me how I was dressed.
If how I dress is possibly a distraction when I'm not singing, I certainly do not want it to be taking away from the message when I'm singing for the Lord.
< Message edited by rogasinger4Him -- 6/25/2008 10:22:10 PM >
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RE: Southern Gospel Group dress - 6/25/2008 10:15:18 PM
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you didnt ruffle my feathers. takes a lot more than that to. (((folks this is just good conversation not argueing so dont get all bent out of shape.  )))
Darien, I chose to join the military. I will be getting out more than likely in 3 years not by want, but if my ministry grows, I want to be able to stay with it and not walk away from it. I did once years ago with something and God brought me back and accepted me back into His flock.
I wear my uniform with pride and honor not for me, but for the one's who wore it who no longer wear it, both alive and dead. I wear it for my country and all in it whether they agree with me or not. ((( I have had my share of talks in Current Events with those kinda fruits)))
I do not feel that when singing that a suit makes the singer. I felt God calling me to sing SG and it will not be as the ones of past although to me the best singers are the ones of the past. James Blackwood and his family of brothers and uncles is my favorite qt ever. they sang SG and did it right. for that time frame. the Imperials of the 70's and 80's are another favorite. they were not of the same mold yet wow could they ever sing.
I guess am saying, if people want to hear TQ, Gold City, Kingsmen, or any other quartet out there today, they will go see that group not me trying to be that group. God led me to go against the grain sort of and I didn't decide this, God did. I spent many many hours praying and gave up many meals in fasting ((and still do. not dieting. diets are gimmicks. fasting is an act of love for my Savior))) and God told me in so many ways that this is where I should go. some may argue with me, dislike my choices because of the style I may choose. but many want to hear it. and others are called to this as well. I am in discussions with a tenor singer currently and also a lady whom I have taken something of a liking to at my Church, her son wants to play guitar for my group.
I will wear a blazer and slacks to make peace and amends with the Churches who feel need to be in a suit. if they say I have to wear a suit, I simply will not let that CHurch have the blessing of my music ministry. that isnt selfish. I know what God has laid upon my heart to do, and I wont go against what I feel His wishes are for my ministry.
I guess that is why I love Asutin's Bridge and Crossway a lot. they wear jeans, and nice shirts(((havent seen them live but photos show me they not in suits))) and wow do they have power in their songs.
the songs and a person's walk with the Lord brings the power to a Church service((( I dont like the phrase concert))) and He should be the one being praised. not how well a group dresses. and that is how I have seen some opinions seem to go. a person HAS to dress this way.
a suit may look proffessional. but wearing a suit doesnt make the ministry. God, the person's belief, the person's personal relationship with the King of Kings makes the ministry.
if you feel a person should wear a suit. please continue to feel that. but my ministry and my walk with the Lord is not based on clothes. but on how I am to the world.
Darien, this was not all sent towards you. the first part was. so many in this thread have stated a suit is only way to go.
I wonder how many in here would listen to their fave groups if they suddenly decided that tshirt & jeans was the way to go on stage?
that is my next thought to ponder.
if any are offended by my comments, pm me please. I do not want to make arguements take place in the open. and I wont argue in pm either. but we can discuss opinions there if you wish.
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