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The Ultimate Conspiracy


Obama - JFK, MLK deja vous
  3% (1)
Aliens (the space kind)
  3% (1)
John McCain as President of USA
  0% (0)
The Creator is awaking Up the World
  0% (0)
NOW (Real ID/RFID chip)
  3% (1)
Rapture or Staged Rapture
  3% (1)
Freemasonry, Illuminati or New World Order/One World Order
  10% (3)
Al Gore/Global Warming
  10% (3)
Religion: Other Religions and/or Cross-less Christianity
  43% (13)
Other
  23% (7)


Total Votes : 30
(last vote on : 10/26/2008 12:02:27 AM)
(Poll will run till: -- )


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JimboFletch -> RE: The Ultimate Conspiracy (8/14/2008 12:27:50 PM)

I saw an interesting program last night on a man who calls himself Michael Travesser and his group in New Mexico "The Lord Our Righteousness Church," sometimes called the "Strong City Cult."

In brief, he predicted the end of the world, gathered followers, and waited 20 years for it to happen: Midnight on Oct. 31, 2007.

If you'd think such a failure would cause the group to dessert the man, you'd be wrong...

But, then, Jehovah's Witnesses are still around.




Pat-rebel_lady -> RE: The Ultimate Conspiracy (8/14/2008 9:09:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dancre

Ahhh . . . Wes, I think we scared everyone away by making sense. [&o] Everyone took their toys and went home. sigh . . . I'll blame it on you. LOL!!! [:D]

kim


You did good, thank you. I'm in lurking mode these days; little to no lip service.




Thessa -> RE: The Ultimate Conspiracy (8/28/2008 7:31:25 PM)

I think many of them are, but i voted for the Obama one.
I think that anyone that thinks he is anything like Kennedy or MLK is nuts.




deborlie -> RE: The Ultimate Conspiracy (9/2/2008 4:59:21 PM)

Back to being serious again:
It's how well you know your BibLe, how well you know God, whether you can be deceived or not. With BibLE knowllege, the HoLY Spirit (thanks, Dancre) can wiseLy direct you.
YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR PART!

Know and Stand fast to what you believe:
1 Cor 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel
which I preach to you, which also you received
and IN WHICH YOU STAND.
2. by which also you are saved,

if you hold fast that word which I preaced to you --

unless you believed in vain.
3. For I delivered to you first of all that which I also reeived:

THAT CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS
ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES,

5. and that HE WAS BURIED, and that HE ROSE AGAIN
THE THIRD DAY ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES,

6. and was seen..............


Rom. 10:8 But what does it say?

"The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart"

9. that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and
believe in your heart that God has rased Him from the dead,
you will be saved.
10. For with the heart one believes unto righeousness,
and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 16:25 Now to Him who is able to establish you

according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ,
according to the revelation of the mystery, kept secret since the world began.

26. but now made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures made
known to all nations, according to the commandment of the
everlasting God, for obedience to the faith--
27. to God, alone wise, be glory, through Jesus Christ forever. Amen

Usually glossed over and not seen....."Paul's Gospel")
Rom 2: 16 ...IN THE DAY WHEN GOD WILL JUDGE THE SECRETS
OF MEN BY JESUS CHRIST
ACCORDING TO MY (PAUL'S) GOSPEL.

Note how it is expected for us to be deceived:
Gal 1: 7b There are some who trouble you and want to
pervert the Gospel of Christ

8 BUT EVEN IF WE, OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN,
PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL TO YOU THAN WHAT
WE HAVE PREACHED TO YOU LET HIM BE ACCURSED.
9 ..........let him be accursed

II Cor.11:3. But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent
deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds
may be corrupted from the simplicity that is
in Christ.

************ 4. FOR IF HE WHO COMES PREACHES ANOTHER JESUS
whom we have not preached,
*************or if you received A DIFFERENT SPIRIT which you have not received,
*************OR A DIFFERENT GOSPEL which you have not accepted--
you may well put up with it.

II Cor 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into apostles of Christ.
14.And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms
himself into an angel of light.
15.Therefore it is no great thing if his
ministers also transform themselves into
ministers of righteousness, whose end will be
according to their works.


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Such as: A present day deciet:

Here are some quotes from the "Jesus" of A Course in Miracles:
The words are aLl famiiar to us .....then these things creep in, with sugar coating:

* "There is no sin. . . "
* A "slain Christ has no meaning."
* "The journey to the cross should be the last `useless journey."
* "Do not make the pathetic error of `clinging to the old rugged cross.'"
* "The Name of Jesus Christ as such is but a symbol... It is a symbol that is safely
used as a replacement for the many names of all the gods to which you pray."
* "God is in everything I see."
* "The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself."
* "The oneness of the Creator and the creation is your wholeness, your sanity and
your limitless power."
* "The Atonement is the final lesson he [man] need learn, for it teaches him that,
never having sinned, he has no need of salvation."

Most Christians recognize, when it's pointed out, that these teachings are the opposite of what our Bible teaches.
We must not be unaware........ We are beginning to hear these things even from the pulpit ,from persons, here to fore, we highLY respect
"............ Christians are not taking heed to what is happening in the world and in the church.
We are not contending for the faith as the Bible admonishes us to do (Jude 3)."
" Our true Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is being reinvented, redefined, and blasphemed right in front of our eyes and hardly anyone seems to notice or care."
No, this is not happening in some future date. It is happening right now.
It is our own responsibiLity, to screen the words. We need to know who He is and who He is not.
Are the words we hear, read,...etc. about the same Jesus Christ who is so clearly and authoritatively presented in the pages of our Bible?

Quotes taken from:
From: Prophesy News Watch; Dec 23rd 2007 issue.

***********************************
The true deceit is the same at it was in the Garden.........."You can be LIKE GOD."
We stiLl faLL for that one!
BJ




JimboFletch -> RE: The Ultimate Conspiracy (9/3/2008 3:43:28 PM)

quote:

It's how well you know your BibLe, how well you know God, whether you can be deceived or not.


quote:

....Quotes taken from:
From: Prophesy News Watch; Dec 23rd 2007 issue.


Am I the only one that sees a discrepancy here?
[:D]




cow451 -> RE: The Ultimate Conspiracy (9/4/2008 12:04:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: JimboFletch

quote:

It's how well you know your BibLe, how well you know God, whether you can be deceived or not.


quote:

....Quotes taken from:
From: Prophesy News Watch; Dec 23rd 2007 issue.


Am I the only one that sees a discrepancy here?
[:D]


I just didn't have the energy to respond (being deceived makes one fatigued, I suppose).[sm=crazy.gif]




71421 -> RE: The Ultimate Conspiracy (9/18/2008 4:30:51 PM)

quote:

I'm not sure that I buy this. I mean, are the elect nothing more than just your garden variety, Sunday social church-goer? Would God's elect, for whose sake He will shorten the days wherein "no flesh should be saved," really be desiring the lukewarmness that you describe? I would think that the elect should have a little deeper faith than that. I would think that the great deception that Christ foretold would appeal to the elect's zealousness, not their laziness.


The ELECT??? Someone's listening to the Shepherds Chapel! Oh my! Bible Answer Man, Help![8|]




ask_questions -> RE: The Ultimate Conspiracy (9/29/2008 4:50:02 AM)

Wow, looks like you guys chose "Other religions" as the ultimate conspiracy. So, you are saying that you think everybody's religion (except yours) is one big hoax.

Now you know how it feels to be an atheist.




Pat-rebel_lady -> RE: The Ultimate Conspiracy (9/29/2008 3:04:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ask_questions

Wow, looks like you guys chose "Other religions" as the ultimate conspiracy. So, you are saying that you think everybody's religion (except yours) is one big hoax.

Now you know how it feels to be an atheist.

Alas, Regardless of their doom, the little victims play --- No sense of their ills to come... No care beyond today.
Author Unknown




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