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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 5:59:03 PM
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:00:29 PM
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Kath
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She just said he is not eating solids during the day because of the pain! Geesh, why bother talking when none of you listen?
And you listen! You can read from the time stamp I was writing my message while she posted hers. However, my advice still stands. No toddler needs to nurse every hour during the night.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:03:01 PM
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I am not saying that nothing should be done, Kath. I am saying that he is clearly hungry and unhappy and forcing him to go hungry is not the solution.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:04:06 PM
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There are other ways to deal with teething than constant nursing (and yeah...those canines are nasty, as are the first molars...Levi just got all 8 of those teeth within the past two months). They do tend to make baby more miserable in the night hours, unfortunately, but IME that doesn't mean baby is hungry necessarily. Needy, yes. Hungry, no.
Have you tried ibuprofen for his teeth pain, Annie?
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:08:23 PM
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Needy, yes. Hungry, no. I would think, Donna, after having all the kids you have had, that you would believe a mom when she says he is really eating at night, but sucking for comfort only during the day. I, for one, think she knows what she is talking about. As she said, he is hardly eating in the daytime. The solution would be to try and fix that situation, and then the nighttime eating would solve itself for the most part. And it could be something that just has to be waited out. I mean, there are times when we parents are exhausted, and there is nothing to be done but wait. But in this case there are definitely things she can try other than refusing to feed a hungry child.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:12:57 PM
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He could just be thirsty, you could try offering him a drink of water. I know Gabby has been doing that lately and a couple of her night wakings stopped when we gave her a sippy cup of water in her bed.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:14:18 PM
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Exactly, Ryanne, babies don't just want to nurse because they are hungry, but it can also be because they are thirsty. This little lad may not be hungry at night at all, just thirsty.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:14:43 PM
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Oh, and is he getting enough fat during the day
Can you suggest some fats?
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:15:49 PM
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I, for one, think she knows what she is talking about. As she said, he is hardly eating in the daytime.
Of course not, he is getting filled up at night.
I'm sure the poor little guy is miserable. Baby Advil worked great for my babies.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:17:20 PM
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Annie, I would suggest having ibuprofen ready by the bed and giving it to him the first time he wakes up to feed, feed him as normal, and then I bet he sleeps a lot longer. It really sounds like it is pain that is making him nurse, not hunger. At least to me it does. And if he doesn't nurse half the night, he may be hungry enough to eat better during the day.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:18:45 PM
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Can you suggest some fats? Cheese, avocado, full-fat yogurt, cream on his oatmeal (if he eats it, lol), butter on his veggies or wherever else it would be appropriate.
Kath, she specifically said the not eating in the daytime was new and a result of teething. Are you really going to disbelieve Annie just to make your point with me?
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:20:27 PM
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Annie, I would suggest having ibuprofen ready by the bed and giving it to him the first time he wakes up to feed, feed him as normal, and then I bet he sleeps a lot longer
I think that is backwards. Since he is in LESS pain at night (as evidenced by his willingness to eat and not comfort-suck as he does in the daytime), I would give him the meds in the morning, and then one more time, so that he can eat and have a happy day, which will make for a happier nighttime.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:21:24 PM
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I am taking the constant waking as a sign of pain, as it has been for my kids. All of my kids would nurse through teething pain, even if they wouldn't eat. It's not always a hunger thing, IME.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:23:33 PM
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I am taking the constant waking as a sign of pain, as it has been for my kids. All of my kids would nurse through teething pain, even if they wouldn't eat. It's not always a hunger thing, IME. That's not the kind of nursing she is describing, not in my experience. The daytime stuff is like that, but the nighttime stuff is not.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:25:54 PM
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Kath, she specifically said the not eating in the daytime was new and a result of teething. Are you really going to disbelieve Annie just to make your point with me?
I believe her. But with 5 or more feedings he is still getting filled up at night now.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:28:41 PM
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Annie, I would suggest having ibuprofen ready by the bed and giving it to him the first time he wakes up to feed, feed him as normal, and then I bet he sleeps a lot longer
I think that is backwards. Since he is in LESS pain at night (as evidenced by his willingness to eat and not comfort-suck as he does in the daytime), I would give him the meds in the morning, and then one more time, so that he can eat and have a happy day, which will make for a happier nighttime.
I don't think it is backwards to medicate at night and hope that he sleeps better and is hungrier in the day time. I don't medicate at the drop of a hat, but for teething...there is no reason not to. The pain is not a productive pain. It's worth a try anyway, in hopes that he will sleep better at night and eat better during the day. That's gentle sleep training, IMO, and yes, it can be done even with a teething baby.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:29:24 PM
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Homegrownkids,
Would you consider a homeopathic remedy for the teething?
And btw, you said he is cutting the pointy teeth - does he have his big back teeth yet? If not, he could be cutting those too.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:30:22 PM
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I just don't think tylenol or ibuprofen is going to make him less hungry, which is what is waking him up. But I do think it might make it easier to get food into him in the daytime, so he isn't so hungry at night.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:32:17 PM
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PrincessDonna
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No one knows if he is waking up because he is hungry or if it is because he is in pain. Giving him ibuprofen and seeing how he does will settle that though. Or we could just ask Noah. 
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:36:43 PM
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I just don't think tylenol or ibuprofen is going to make him less hungry, which is what is waking him up.
We don't know that it's hunger.
It could be pain.
It could also be thirst.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 6:56:24 PM
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I nursed on demand too, but it was demand (necessary for growth), not command like it seems your little guy is doing.
I like that! Nurse on demand, not command. I'm gonna have to remember that.
If he's in pain during the day and not eating, I certainly don't see a problem with at least experimenting with giving pain meds during both day and night, and seeing which actually do some good.
Even when he is eating during the day, I strongly suspect he'll continue to want to nurse a lot at night, just because it's a habit for him now. But if you can deal with the eating during the day problem, that will at least help you feel better that you aren't "starving" your child.
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 7:35:11 PM
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He has been nearly refusing to eat breakfast and lunch and has had very little snacks during the day also.
You say "nearly refusing". Does this mean he has been eating (his solids), just only a little?
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RE: Nursing a 16 month old at night - 7/18/2008 8:04:19 PM
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You say "nearly refusing". Does this mean he has been eating (his solids), just only a little?
I have to force him in his high chair for breakfast and lunch and he hasn't really been eating more than a bite... literally. He DOES eat an evening meal and eats pretty good.
He is getting his pointy teeth, and he already has the ones that are directly by those teeth. I don't feel anything coming in further back. But, maybe that is a possibility. He did enjoy me rubbing his gums and chewing down on my finger.
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