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RE: If you could bring a dead rock star back to life - 7/24/2008 10:49:38 PM
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shawke
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Duane Allman Hendrix Johnny Thunders -- only if he came back clean and sober--not the trainwreck he was for his last oh, twenty years ) John Lennon -- I always wondered what music he had left in him, but it would have probably been lame duets and lazy songwriting.
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RE: If you could bring a dead rock star back to life - 7/25/2008 6:34:10 AM
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ORIGINAL: shawke John Lennon -- I always wondered what music he had left in him, but it would have probably been lame duets and lazy songwriting. Actually, I would like him to answer my question from when he died: I was driving on Bircham St. in East Lansing MI when the announcement came on the radio that he had been shot. I knew in my heart he was already dead. They started playing "Imagine." I asked out loud to him (no one else in the car) "Do you still believe that, John?" ("No hell below us, above us only sky...." )
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RE: If you could bring a dead rock star back to life - 7/25/2008 7:37:53 AM
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ORIGINAL: shawke John Lennon -- I always wondered what music he had left in him, but it would have probably been lame duets and lazy songwriting. Actually, I would like him to answer my question from when he died: I was driving on Bircham St. in East Lansing MI when the announcement came on the radio that he had been shot. I knew in my heart he was already dead. They started playing "Imagine." I asked out loud to him (no one else in the car) "Do you still believe that, John?" ("No hell below us, above us only sky...." ) Now that would be the 64 million dollar question! But we already know the answer!
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RE: If you could bring a dead rock star back to life - 7/25/2008 5:44:57 PM
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I have always heard rumors that John was having conversations with David Wilkerson near the end. Only God knows what John did with that info, hopefully the right thing.
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RE: If you could bring a dead rock star back to life - 7/26/2008 2:56:12 AM
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He was more of a leading figure in Metallica than most people realize. If he remained alive, there would be none of this Bob Rock nonsense, the "haircut" era, no St. Anger drivel. Metallica definitely lost something when Cliff died. He was his own man and didn't care about trendiness. He helped shaped Metallica's musical direction and image. He was very knowledgeable about music and taught them a few things about music theory. Plus, he looked awesome in those bell-bottoms. Or the other three guys might have kicked him out and went their merry commercial way. Funny thing about alternate reality is that there are so many different paths. I'm sure your analysis of Burton is spot on but there's the other three guys to consider. Things change. But I imagine its hardly a coincidence that Metallica started on the more commercial road ("And Justice For All") after he died and went full bore into it with their followup, the (so called) black album. Just wait until Death Magnetic is released, people. Anyhow, I would have to say Dimebag Darrel. Although it'd be interesting to see Hendrix playing a gig on PBS like so many other bands from that era I've seen on there. But I'd much rather use all the "bringing back a dead rock star energy" to keep Dave Mustaine alive and playing forever instead.
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RE: If you could bring a dead rock star back to life - 7/26/2008 3:49:07 AM
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Just wait until Death Magnetic is released, people. I'll believe it when I hear it. Every band (or so it seems) that has ever softened their style has claimed on every new release that they have "returned to form". They'll leak / release tracks that seem to confirm this. Then the album is released and their fans shake their heads as they have been fleeced again by the pretty much same-o machine. Maybe "Death Magnetic" will be different. If Metallica wants to retain their Metallicult and sell their Metallistuff and rake in more Metallibucks it had better be. Although I personally liked "St. Anger" the market won't withstand another critical disaster like that. BTW: liking St. Anger, it helped that I've never been a big Metallifan and so didn't judge it on the basis of "Master of Puppets" is perfect and any new Metallica CD is rated on how it conforms, why still being different, to that. Just check the reviews of "St. Anger" on Amazon. One big "this ain't "Master of Puppets" protest. I know many Metallica fans are more open minded than that but still. Nonetheless, no matter what Death Magnetic sounds like it can't change the 15 years that preceded it. 15 years that may have been much different had Burton not died.
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RE: If you could bring a dead rock star back to life - 7/26/2008 6:12:49 PM
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Just wait until Death Magnetic is released, people. I'll believe it when I hear it. Every band (or so it seems) that has ever softened their style has claimed on every new release that they have "returned to form". They'll leak / release tracks that seem to confirm this. Then the album is released and their fans shake their heads as they have been fleeced again by the pretty much same-o machine. Maybe "Death Magnetic" will be different. If Metallica wants to retain their Metallicult and sell their Metallistuff and rake in more Metallibucks it had better be. Although I personally liked "St. Anger" the market won't withstand another critical disaster like that. BTW: liking St. Anger, it helped that I've never been a big Metallifan and so didn't judge it on the basis of "Master of Puppets" is perfect and any new Metallica CD is rated on how it conforms, why still being different, to that. Just check the reviews of "St. Anger" on Amazon. One big "this ain't "Master of Puppets" protest. I know many Metallica fans are more open minded than that but still. Nonetheless, no matter what Death Magnetic sounds like it can't change the 15 years that preceded it. 15 years that may have been much different had Burton not died. That's allpeople ever say about anything since Master Of Puppets. You never heard "this ain't Justice" or "this ain't Ride". Master Of Puppets is great to me, but to me Ride The Lighting is the best ever, followed by Justice, then Kill 'em all. Yeah, maybe if Cliff didn't die then thing smight have been different. Who knows. And so Metallica sold out in the 90's. I'm just sick of hearing everytime "Metallica? Aww, they ahven't done anything good since Master Of Puppets!" I'm confident Death Magnetic will shut people up. And if it doesn't, well they can just stay stuck in the Puppets era.
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RE: If you could bring a dead rock star back to life - 7/27/2008 12:55:00 AM
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ORIGINAL: DethWolf Anyhow, I would have to say Dimebag Darrel. But I'd much rather use all the "bringing back a dead rock star energy" to keep Dave Mustaine alive and playing forever instead. Aaron Benner who was with Dimebag when he was shot became a Christian and has got a band named "This Fires Embrace". They had an article about in in the latest HM magazine (print, haven't checked online). I've been searching to check them out. If anyone has a link, please tell me. Dave Mustaine playing forever? Since he's now a Christian he'll get a chance to do that in a venue I hope to get a ticket to as well!
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