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Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in our co... - 7/26/2008 7:34:45 PM
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Cloak
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I was talking to a Christian lady in my church sharing with her my own struggles and spiritual wars when I mentioned how Satan tries to harass us and make us second guess our decisions and walk with God; when suddenly upon mentioning the name of Satan, she disagreed politely and dismissed Satan's role in our life by sort of denying his presence in our life. Only when I had to remind her that those were not only my own words, but rather I heard them from many pastors and preachers, only then she was silent and sort of convinced.
My question is...Why are Christians afraid of the mention of the word "Satan", and why do they try to dismiss his presence in our Christian life when the Bible warned us about him and his presnece?
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/26/2008 7:36:50 PM
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I don't see this happen a lot in my church. My thoughts is that maybe it's because the idea of a very real being who trys to fight us and God seems rather cracked up at times. It's easier to point at other things, or at ourselves than say that Satan is fighting against us and God.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/26/2008 7:54:33 PM
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Because ... as someone far cleverer than myself once said ... Satan's greatest trick is to convince you that he doesn't exist.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/26/2008 9:59:40 PM
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I'm with slushie. I don't know any Christian who denies Satan's existence in our lives. This is new to me...
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/26/2008 10:36:50 PM
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Because ... as someone far cleverer than myself once said ... Satan's greatest trick is to convince you that he doesn't exist.
I've heard this as well. I think it's true.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/26/2008 10:42:47 PM
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Many of us aren't afraid, we just don't like to give him any credit. At all.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 12:20:32 AM
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In my experience people are too eager(perhaps)to blame Satan for their(our)disappointments; even people of no or limited faith. Granted, there's a balance somewhere but to go to either extreme smacks of being disingenuous.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 1:29:33 AM
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If we are afraid of Satan, how will we fight against him? How can you play the game if your afraid of the ball?
I have never heard of the name Satan or the phrase "the devil" being hushed, but I know an old, superstitious, Catholic woman who says "horrible tidings will befall the one who dares to speak the true name of Satan." No offense to people who think\say that, but saying Lucifer out loud is'nt going to make him appear in the corner of your room at night. I understand that some don't like having conversations about Satan, neither do I, but fear won't save you. Strength and love for Christ will. If you feel scared, pray and the Lord will protect you.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 7:53:53 AM
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"horrible tidings will befall the one who dares to speak the true name of Satan."
You mean loser? That's what I call him.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 7:59:10 AM
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I'm not afraid, but I don't think he has ever done anything worth talking about. Who likes being on the losing team? NOT ME.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 8:07:50 AM
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Many of us aren't afraid, we just don't like to give him any credit. At all.
I agree with this, and also think some Christians tend to blame everything on him. A former pastor of ours used to say that sometimes he feels sorry for the devil because he gets blamed for an awful lot of stuff he didn't do. Sometime we do a lot of things to ourselves. We make poor decision and then think satan is attacking our finances when we can't make ends meet.
Another thing that bugs me is when people act like whatever they were doing is so important that the devil had to come against it to stop it. For example, a bad storm might knock a tree down and the road is closed temporarily and people can't get to church. Everyone will be convinced that it's spiritual warfare and that the devil was trying to keep people from worshiping. Except that a downed tree can't stop people from worshiping, and I think it's rather arrogant to think that the devil was so concerned about that one church worshiping that he had to stop some people from making it to one service, when there are millions of other churches meeting that same day.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 9:09:30 AM
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Many of us aren't afraid, we just don't like to give him any credit. At all.
Ditto, ditto, ditto.
I believe Satan is alive and well, however, too many believers give him too much credit for things that come from their own unwise choices and decisions.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 9:13:50 AM
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And even if something really is one of his "antics" (good description, SM), I'm not about to go around proclaiming his work.
Note as well that I never capitalize anything referring to him. No respect of any kind from me.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 10:41:13 AM
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My question is...Why are Christians afraid of the mention of the word "Satan", and why do they try to dismiss his presence in our Christian life when the Bible warned us about him and his presnece?
I guess I would question whether they have been taught (by God or man) re: satan's role in the world/our lives. Or if they've 'spiritualized' the idea of satan. I really am just guessing.
I don't think we as believers should give satan as much attention as we do. He thrives on it and I'd just as soon he be given as little satisfaction as possible. Have you noticed how the threads on demonic possession, etc attract so much attention? Or perhaps this is another indicator that people really NEED to be taught satan's role in the world and in our lives. Then the curiosity would end and the reality would begin.
What do you think?
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 11:56:22 AM
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this has not been my experience. but if I had to guess it would be because of a lack of understanding.
I find it interesting that in the book of Job (a man who was blameless job 2:3), Satan played a huge part in the suffering of Job. Satan is mentioned 14 times, but Job never mentions, or acknowledges satan.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 12:23:51 PM
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Another thing that bugs me is when people act like whatever they were doing is so important that the devil had to come against it to stop it. For example, a bad storm might knock a tree down and the road is closed temporarily and people can't get to church. Everyone will be convinced that it's spiritual warfare and that the devil was trying to keep people from worshiping. Except that a downed tree can't stop people from worshiping, and I think it's rather arrogant to think that the devil was so concerned about that one church worshiping that he had to stop some people from making it to one service, when there are millions of other churches meeting that same day. Very good point, Lisa.
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And even if something really is one of his "antics" (good description, SM), I'm not about to go around proclaiming his work.
Note as well that I never capitalize anything referring to him. No respect of any kind from me.
Yep, Yep and Yep.
I rarely speak or even think of him; and when I do, I either refer to him as the defeated one or the father of lies; both of which are true statements (My post from yesterday was the first time in a very long time that I even used his name; and I did so because I wanted my post to be clear as to whom I was referring).
Ironically, the times that I do even speak of him is when a conversation such as this comes up; usually offline; and usually by someone who constantly is attributing aspects of their life to the devil . . . and again, doing that is not hurting him in the least; it's giving him praise.
I would simply rather my attention be on Our Lord and what He's doing in my life.
I was thinking about this thread last night, and it occurred to me that even this thread is giving attention to the defeated one.
Cloak (nor anyone else) - please do not take offense to what I've just written; it's not aimed at anyone nor is it mean to be rude. The question the OP poses is a very good question to ask because many of the posters in this thread have refuted that it's not from fear that they refuse to speak his name; it's from the exact opposite of fear.
I hope the posts in this thread have helped you understand the dynamics a bit more.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 12:46:41 PM
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I was talking to a Christian lady in my church sharing with her my own struggles and spiritual wars when I mentioned how Satan tries to harass us and make us second guess our decisions and walk with God; when suddenly upon mentioning the name of Satan, she disagreed politely and dismissed Satan's role in our life by sort of denying his presence in our life. Only when I had to remind her that those were not only my own words, but rather I heard them from many pastors and preachers, only then she was silent and sort of convinced.
My question is...Why are Christians afraid of the mention of the word "Satan", and why do they try to dismiss his presence in our Christian life when the Bible warned us about him and his presnece?
You mean fanatical 'Pigs in the Parlor' Word of Faith type Christians.
I am not afraid to mention the word Satan. Nor do I dismiss the reality of the demonic realm, but then again, not everyone's doctrine is rooted in the context of Scripture, nor are they in a healthy well-balanced church.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 1:13:09 PM
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I was talking to a Christian lady in my church sharing with her my own struggles and spiritual wars when I mentioned how Satan tries to harass us and make us second guess our decisions and walk with God; when suddenly upon mentioning the name of Satan, she disagreed politely and dismissed Satan's role in our life by sort of denying his presence in our life. Only when I had to remind her that those were not only my own words, but rather I heard them from many pastors and preachers, only then she was silent and sort of convinced.
My question is...Why are Christians afraid of the mention of the word "Satan", and why do they try to dismiss his presence in our Christian life when the Bible warned us about him and his presnece?
You mean fanatical 'Pigs in the Parlor' Word of Faith type Christians.
I am not afraid to mention the word Satan. Nor do I dismiss the reality of the demonic realm, but then again, not everyone's doctrine is rooted in the context of Scripture, nor are they in a healthy well-balanced church.
She is a Godly Christian lady and I've been seeing her in my Bible study. So I believe judging her harshly or unfairly is REALLY Unfair!!!
She could simply be misled and misguided and this was an opportunity for God to open her eyes to the truth of His Word and she seemed to have Heeded His voice.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 1:15:26 PM
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I was talking to a Christian lady in my church sharing with her my own struggles and spiritual wars when I mentioned how Satan tries to harass us and make us second guess our decisions and walk with God; when suddenly upon mentioning the name of Satan, she disagreed politely and dismissed Satan's role in our life by sort of denying his presence in our life. Only when I had to remind her that those were not only my own words, but rather I heard them from many pastors and preachers, only then she was silent and sort of convinced.
My question is...Why are Christians afraid of the mention of the word "Satan", and why do they try to dismiss his presence in our Christian life when the Bible warned us about him and his presnece?
You mean fanatical 'Pigs in the Parlor' Word of Faith type Christians.
I am not afraid to mention the word Satan. Nor do I dismiss the reality of the demonic realm, but then again, not everyone's doctrine is rooted in the context of Scripture, nor are they in a healthy well-balanced church.
She is a Godly Christian lady and I've been seeing her in my Bible study. So I believe judging her harshly or unfairly is REALLY Unfair!!!
I am not judging her salvation - but making an observation/comment based on past experiences with people who think they way she does.
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She could simply be misled and misguided
On this one matter? She is.
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and this was an opportunity for God to open her eyes to the truth of His Word and she seemed to have Heeded His voice.
So she no longer believes the way she did that prompted this thread?
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 1:17:39 PM
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this has not been my experience. but if I had to guess it would be because of a lack of understanding.
I find it interesting that in the book of Job (a man who was blameless job 2:3), Satan played a huge part in the suffering of Job. Satan is mentioned 14 times, but Job never mentions, or acknowledges satan.
I'm so glad you posted this as I was wondering about it in connection with this thread and hadn't looked it up for myself.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 1:45:00 PM
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Well, here is my take:
[b]Be well-balanced (temperate, sober of mind), be vigilant and cautious at all times; for that enemy of yours, the devil, roams around like a lion roaring [ in fierce hunger], seeking someone to seize upon and devour. (1 Peter 5:8 - Amplified Bible)
However, as Christians our solace and antidote of the afore-mentioned biblical verse is the following one:
Behold! I have given you authority and power to trample upon snakes and scorpions, and [physical & mental strength & ability] over ALL the power that the enemy [possesses]; and nothing shall in any way harm you. (Luke 10:19 - Amplified Bible)
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