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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 2:19:29 PM
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WhiteRoseBlessings
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But Cloak, nothing in those Scriptures tell us that we are to go around proclaiming what we think the defeated one may (or may not) be doing in our lives.
I could post counter-Scriptures where we are commanded to continually praise Our Lord (but I won't, because I don't think it serves any good purpose to have Scriptures wars).
However, I do believe that we are to, indeed, praise Our Lord.
Talking about what I might perceive to be an attack is not praising Our Lord.
Focusing on what Our Lord is doing to strengthen me through an attack, to equip me through an attack, to carry me through an attack, to mature me through an attack . . . THAT is what I'd rather focus on.
Besides . . . praising Our Lord is not only the right thing to do and will not only guard our heart, it is the most absolutely best weapon we can yield against any attack sent our way.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 2:27:39 PM
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But Cloak, nothing in those Scriptures tell us that we are to go around proclaiming what we think the defeated one may (or may not) be doing in our lives.
I could post counter-Scriptures where we are commanded to continually praise Our Lord (but I won't, because I don't think it serves any good purpose to have Scriptures wars).
However, I do believe that we are to, indeed, praise Our Lord.
Talking about what I might perceive to be an attack is not praising Our Lord.
Focusing on what Our Lord is doing to strengthen me through an attack, to equip me through an attack, to carry me through an attack, to mature me through an attack . . . THAT is what I'd rather focus on.
Besides . . . praising Our Lord is not only the right thing to do and will not only guard our heart, it is the most absolutely best weapon we can yield against any attack sent our way.
Right on Mary-Sharon! While Satanic attacks are a reality, our solace and comfort are...we are not alone, God is right beside us and we can actually run to Jesus ASA we experience a satanic attack or any hindrance in our Christian walk.
Praise is key factor to defeat the enemy of our soul.
Ironically, this was the theme of the pastor's sermon in my Church today. He expanded upon how David was scared when he went to meet with the Philistines and yet God was right next to him and He even went Before David.
Isn't it comforting to know that God goes before us in our spiritual warfare! 
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 5:17:52 PM
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without Christ, we are pretty helpless against the attacks of satan. but with Christ, a mere "pinky flick" chases him away.
In Christ, we have authority over him.
Luk 11:20 "But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Luk 11:21 "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed.
Luk 11:22 "But when someone stronger than he attacks him and overpowers him, he takes away from him all his armor on which he had relied and distributes his plunder.
Luk 11:23 "He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me, scatters.
Luk 10:17 The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name."
this is one significance of intercessory prayer.
we have authority over satan, but satan cannot read our minds..... thinking him away never works.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 5:33:58 PM
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I was talking to a Christian lady in my church sharing with her my own struggles and spiritual wars when I mentioned how Satan tries to harass us and make us second guess our decisions and walk with God; when suddenly upon mentioning the name of Satan, she disagreed politely and dismissed Satan's role in our life by sort of denying his presence in our life. Only when I had to remind her that those were not only my own words, but rather I heard them from many pastors and preachers, only then she was silent and sort of convinced.
My question is...Why are Christians afraid of the mention of the word "Satan", and why do they try to dismiss his presence in our Christian life when the Bible warned us about him and his presnece?
You mean fanatical 'Pigs in the Parlor' Word of Faith type Christians.
I am not afraid to mention the word Satan. Nor do I dismiss the reality of the demonic realm, but then again, not everyone's doctrine is rooted in the context of Scripture, nor are they in a healthy well-balanced church.
Thank you....I'm not afraid of that word neither because we have to call it what it is because he's the enemy and yes many things are the cause of the enemy who controls what is going on in the world and our own back yard. Satan uses people to his advantage and we have to learn to rebuke the enemy and not let him take strongholds over our lives and our situations.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/27/2008 11:57:31 PM
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"horrible tidings will befall the one who dares to speak the true name of Satan."
You mean loser? That's what I call him.
Well said! I agree! He doesn't deserve our respect.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/28/2008 6:58:43 AM
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To the original question:
IMO it is a world view issue. Most american believers totally discount anything having to do with the supernatural. They either do not believe that the devil exists, or that he is irrelevant to our daily walk. That can also spill over to our view of God, that He is distant and does not supernaturally intervene in our lives.
THis is an outgrowth of our "faith" in the basics of scientific method and western (arostotelian) logic.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/28/2008 7:09:26 AM
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You mean loser? That's what I call him. Well said! I agree! He doesn't deserve our respect.
Respect -no he absolutely deserves no respect.
BUT - absolutely no one should underestimate him. To do so is make yourself ignorant to his schemes and be caught unprepared from his attack. Paul tells us:
2Co 2:11 so that no advantage would be taken of us by satan, for we are not ignorant of his schemes.
Eph 6:11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.
Peter adds this:
1Pe 5:8 Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
In order to not fall victim to his schemes or be devoured by him, one must understand him and the power we have over him in Jesus' name.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/28/2008 7:37:57 AM
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Excellent point DaveW. I remember a line from a book I read several years ago. It was something said to a knight from his superior officer. "Always respect everyone; even your enemy. Especially your enemy. A man that respects his enemy will never underestimate him."
I still say he's a loser, but I know that the devil won't just roll over in defeat. He keeps fighting. And in his fighting he can cause damage. But we need to remember that Jesus defeated him already. And in Jesus defeating him, we have victory over him.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/28/2008 11:39:04 AM
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this has not been my experience. but if I had to guess it would be because of a lack of understanding.
I find it interesting that in the book of Job (a man who was blameless job 2:3), Satan played a huge part in the suffering of Job. Satan is mentioned 14 times, but Job never mentions, or acknowledges satan.
Could that be because Job did not know of Satan's involvement?
Here's a thought for you: It was God, not Satan, that initiated the topic of Job. And it was God that limited Satan's ability to attack Job.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/28/2008 12:40:15 PM
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DaveW
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Here's a thought for you: It was God, not Satan, that initiated the topic of Job. And it was God that limited Satan's ability to attack Job. Funny - I now hear Jonathan Frakes' voice when reading your posts...
And it was satan who initiated it with Peter, demanding permission to sift him like wheat. Jesus allowed it. There are several examples of what some meant for evil God allowed for Good. Job came back stronger than ever. Peter preached a 5 minute sermon that resulted in 3000 being brought to faith, only 7 weeks later.
I only hope you can handle a phaser pistol and play trombone as well as your avatar.....
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/28/2008 5:01:14 PM
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armydude
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this has not been my experience. but if I had to guess it would be because of a lack of understanding.
I find it interesting that in the book of Job (a man who was blameless job 2:3), Satan played a huge part in the suffering of Job. Satan is mentioned 14 times, but Job never mentions, or acknowledges satan.
Could that be because Job did not know of Satan's involvement?
Here's a thought for you: It was God, not Satan, that initiated the topic of Job. And it was God that limited Satan's ability to attack Job.
By effectively placing satan on a leash. Not much has changed in that regard.
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RE: Why are Christians afraid of mentioning Satan in ou... - 7/29/2008 11:34:59 AM
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On some level I think it is also more comfortable/convenient for some people to deny Satan's existence. Although it may be best not to press on with this subject when talking to someone who seems to be highly apprehensive about discussing it, I think it is good for us to be aware of what is really going on. If you feel compelled to have this discussion with people who are oblivious to Satan and other related topics, try not to focus only on the negative; reinforcing/explaining some of the knowledge of God's protection can help offset some of the tension or unwillingness of others to speak up.
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