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RE: Male friend phoning me... - 8/12/2008 9:45:31 AM   
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Well, this situation has come full circle. Wow...you won't even believe how far this goes...it's hard for me to believe. Right now, I am very upset...shaking...and can hardly type...I am watching out for typos... Anyway, I sent him a message telling him that my mother knew such and such and did he know how that happened. He said that he told her...and he said that he told her because she told him that I owed her a lot of money and that she had bought this that and the other for us, and that he didn't think that it was right that we had bought something when we owed my mother money. What she didn't tell him is that we paid her back thousands of what we owed to her last year...and totally paid off the one major purchase that she loaned us the money for. Instead of taking his concern to me, he just took it upon himself to decide that she should know what I asked him not to tell her until she came to visit. *sigh* So, he and I discussed it via email for a day or so, and he apologized saying that I was right about what he should have said to her and that he will not get involved in situations with me and my mother again. I shrug at the apolgoy because somehow, I don't believe it.

Well, this gets a little off topic here, but my mother...my mother gossiped to my former best friend AT CHURCH. I have been told that she cries every Sunday at church and when people ask her what is wrong, she answers, "They don't want me to be a part of my grandchildren's life." All the people there are like, "Poor thing, look what her daughter is doing to her." This used to be my church. I was there for years before my parents started coming. But they all believe the gospel of my mother instead of coming to me to see what is really going on. So...my 12 year old cousin sent me a text message today telling me that she isn't talking to me anymore because of how badly I have/am treating my parents. HUH?! For one thing, why would they even be discussing this with a 12 year old?! For another, it looks like my mother is on a mission to turn all of my friends and family in my hometown against me...and from my standpoint, she's winning them over.

This angers me...but it also hurts too. Hubby doesn't understand the hurt part. He understands the anger and shares it with me...but he doesn't understand how I can be hurt when she's been so outright mean. It's my mom. It's my dad. I love them. I knew from the get-go that my mom is a controlling woman, and when she doesn't get her way, she lashes out. She has hurt many people that I can remember growing up, but I never thought she'd do this to me. When I think about my family, I wonder what she has said to them, and what they have believed. What does my grandmother think of me? What do the aunts, uncles, and cousins that I was so close to believe about me now? Why don't they ever call me to see if her stories pan out? Do they not know me any better than to think if I'm doing what she says I'm doing, I must be going mentally crazy or something? It's like they have disowned me. All they care about is my children. I told them that if they don't want to talk to me anymore, it will also mean not talking to my hubby or my children. At that, they claimed that I was keeping the grandchildren from them. Nothing about being said about not seeing me...nothing about missing seeing their son-in-law. This whole situation just makes me livid, but hurts so much too. The only family and friends that I knew for 23 years of my life all believe lies about me............


I know I'm coming into this way late. It sounds like maybe you need to have a talk with your mother too, but most of all, you need to forgive her. Don't let yourself become bitter against her!
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RE: Male friend phoning me... - 8/12/2008 6:44:08 PM   
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Sorry this is late, but moving from Womens Only to Relationships

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RE: Male friend phoning me... - 8/13/2008 7:17:01 PM   
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Sorry, if the two of you are now married...perhaps you should have pulled back on the personal conversations?? or rather telling him everything..that is and should be the relationship that you and your husband should have. One of the poster mentioned about telling his wife...sound good but can get ugly and make things worst..If he is not able to understand that you no longer desire to takk with him...then change your phone number?? or talk to your husband about it...
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RE: Male friend phoning me... - 8/15/2008 9:34:35 AM   
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Thank you all for your responses. I guess the title of this thread could be changed to something about my mother because the male friend is no longer contacting me...not via phone, not via email...nadda, nothing, zip. Good. I had talked to hubby about it. I told him that I was letting the calls go to voicemail, and he thought I was doing the right thing. I'm sure if it had continued long enough, he would have stepped in and asked him to stop calling...but he has no need to anymore. I'm very shocked that a friendship of approx. 15 year is over so quickly...but I would be a fool to continue talking with him.

As for my mother...wow... She had told this male friend about some money that we owed her. She failed to mention that we had paid her back a VERY LARGE LUM SUM of it, but that's beside the point now. So, I sent her another payment on it this week. She got it and called me--I also let that call go to voicemail--to say that we didn't need to send her money. She didn't need it. So, if he money is so much of a non-issue that she doesn't want us to pay her back, why did she mention it to friend? She'll still be getting payments from us on the debt...

I don't feel that I'm bitter against my mother. I feel like she has decided what is important to her...and it's not me. It's making herself out to be the victim, no matter who she hurts, and trying to regain control of me...and gaining control of my children. She has offered many times for me and my children to come visit her, but not hubby. So, I feel like she wants the marriage to end, ultimately, and me to move back, live with or right next to her, with the children. I honestly think that if you took an honest inventory of what she feels in her heart, that would be the answer. If she feels this way, I see no reason to continue to contact her. She doesn't care for my happiness, only her own.

She also said in the voicemail that she did not tell the 12 year old, but told her dad. I told her in the letter I sent with the money that whether she told the 12 year old or told another adult who told the 12 year old, it was still gossip. The funny thing...her dad told me once, "What goes on between you and your mother is between you and your mother." He obviously listened to what she said and then went and repeated it in the presence of his children. So... I really don't know what to do about my family. It seems as if the ones that I was closest to when I lived there are the ones that are sympathetic with my mother about not having her "baby" living right next to her. She has told us many times that she will give us the land next to her and build a house there for us...all her expense, if we'd just move back. LOL That'll be the day.................

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RE: Male friend phoning me... - 8/15/2008 12:38:21 PM   
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Well, this gets a little off topic here, but my mother...my mother gossiped to my former best friend AT CHURCH. I have been told that she cries every Sunday at church and when people ask her what is wrong, she answers, "They don't want me to be a part of my grandchildren's life." All the people there are like, "Poor thing, look what her daughter is doing to her." This used to be my church. I was there for years before my parents started coming. But they all believe the gospel of my mother instead of coming to me to see what is really going on. So...my 12 year old cousin sent me a text message today telling me that she isn't talking to me anymore because of how badly I have/am treating my parents. HUH?! For one thing, why would they even be discussing this with a 12 year old?! For another, it looks like my mother is on a mission to turn all of my friends and family in my hometown against me...and from my standpoint, she's winning them over.


Oh man Hillary. Your mother sounds EXACTLY like my grandmother (moms mom). She has done the exact same thing to my parents, myself and my brother and sister. Everytime my family found a new church my grandma would find out and start attending. And then she would make up crazy stories about my family and after a while we would start getting treated rudely by the other church members. So we would have to leave and move on. She kept following us to every church doing the same thing. In my opinion my grandmother is evil. Growing up my cousins were terrified of my mom and always acted nervous around her. We could never figure out why... until the oldest cousin talked to me and told me that grandma and his mom always told him and his siblings that if they were bad or misbehaved that my mother would be the one to spank or punish them? What the???? And because he was now older he figured out that my mom wasn't a bad person at all. I could not believe they had done that to my mother. Like I said, my grandma is evil and she has always tried to mess with my family. She even tries to get us to fight amongst eachother and spread rumors and lies and tell her their secrets so she can gossip. It has never worked. She has never gotten us to fight or share any of our lives with her. She is constantly whining that no one ever comes to visit her, but she has been told many times by all of us why we don't visit her and how upset she has made us. So you are so not alone. I am really sorry that your mother is doing this to you. You need to pray against this.

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So, if he money is so much of a non-issue that she doesn't want us to pay her back, why did she mention it to friend? She'll still be getting payments from us on the debt...


She mentioned it to get sympathy. My grandma does the same. She is always saying "woe is me" and she gets sympathy from everyone but my family.

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It's making herself out to be the victim, no matter who she hurts, and trying to regain control of me...and gaining control of my children. She has offered many times for me and my children to come visit her, but not hubby. So, I feel like she wants the marriage to end, ultimately, and me to move back, live with or right next to her, with the children. I honestly think that if you took an honest inventory of what she feels in her heart, that would be the answer. If she feels this way, I see no reason to continue to contact her. She doesn't care for my happiness, only her own.


Wow... your poor husband. How does this make him feel? She does sound super controlling. I would definitely stay away from her. Your kids don't need this in their lives either. Speaking from someone who grew up with a controlling, manipulative and not so nice grandmother it is best you stay away. When my brother, sister and I were old enough to choose not to go to grandma's house to visit we stayed at home. She always played the guilt card trying to make us feel bad. She would even yell at us... and then wonder why we don't want to ever see her. By the way, the last 3 times Lorne and I stayed in her city we refused to vist her (I feel bad for my grandpa) and when she finds out she acts all sad and emails me. I just don't feel like I need to visit someone who tried to ruin my entire family. Sure, sometimes I do love her, but it is easier to love her when I stay away.

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She has told us many times that she will give us the land next to her and build a house there for us...all her expense, if we'd just move back. LOL That'll be the day.................


Yikes!!! If you ever even think about doing this I may be forced to come lecture you.

Maybe change the title of your thread so people know it is more about your mother now??? (((((((((((hugs and prayers)))))))))) Sorry you are going through so much. I thought my mother was bad, but at least she has gotten WAY better after I have talked to her many times. It's like a light turned on inside her head that made her realize that her family is way more important than silly fights and arguments. I have to say that I like having my mom back. And even if we argue back and forth it only lasts a day and only happens every few months if that. If you ever need to talk feel free to PM me okay? (((((((((((((((more hugs))))))))))))))


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RE: Male friend phoning me... - 8/15/2008 1:39:55 PM   
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I'd like to change the subject for my thread, but I don't know how...

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RE: Male friend phoning me... - 8/16/2008 8:50:39 PM   
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Wow, it sounds like your mom likes playing the victim. I'm so sorry, what a difficult position you are in.

As far as your male friend, I would suggest that you DO NOT under any circumstances call his wife. That could cause more marital issues for him. A better idea would be to have your husband call him and tell him not to contact you any further. And then you need to stick to it. No more phone calls (or accepting them) and no more emails - block him. You must have accountability to your husband, because this man could drive a wedge into your own relationship, and that would be a real shame.

And pray. For your mom. Her heart. Your relationship with her.
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RE: Male friend phoning me... - 8/18/2008 12:57:53 PM   
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So, I sent her another payment on it this week. She got it and called me--I also let that call go to voicemail--to say that we didn't need to send her money. She didn't need it. So, if he money is so much of a non-issue that she doesn't want us to pay her back, why did she mention it to friend? She'll still be getting payments from us on the debt...


good job viw ... borrower is slave to the lender ... and it sounds like contact with her brings you heartache ... the sooner you pay it back, sounds like the better

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