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Qtman -> RE: Deceived Woman Makes Wild Statement About Salvation (7/31/2008 4:56:22 PM)
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ORIGINAL: RealLifeBibleAnswers I thought I would share this with you all: About two months ago, I was speaking to a lady, who lives close to me in my hometown. After 15-20 minutes of talking, she begins to talk about her son, who was going through a bit of a rebellious state in his life, and was clearly not living for God. I should mention that this was an older Pentecostal lady (all her life), and that her son, being 20 years old, was a musician in the church. He played the drums, and was highly dedicated as a musician. Well, anyway, she went on to make a statement that I will never forget. It was such a statement that spoke VOLUMES about her level of spiritual maturity and understanding. It was a statement that showed me just how deceived she was (and perhaps, most of the members of her church). She said, "I wish the Holy Ghost would just get on my son when he's playing drums and really save him." After hearing that, I almost wanted to pinch myself to see if I was dreaming. Surely, this woman, who 'claims' to have known the load for decades didn't make such a stupid statement, right? Shortly thereafter, we ended the conversation. There was much I wanted to share with her, but I knew she was very religious and would not hear anything I had to say. You see, there were about a thousand things wrong with that statement of hers. But, for the sake of brevity, I will share the top three: 1. God isn't 'saving' anyone who does not wish to be saved. Salvation is a gift that is received by an unbeliever, not forced on an unbeliever by God. 2. This woman, and perhaps a lot more deceived individuals at her church, should really stop looking for physical manifestations as a sign that someone is born again. Being born again is not physical, but a spiritual process. 3. If this was her idea of salvation (and how it works), then I question her salvation. I honestly doubt that she's saved. She may be religious, but not born again. And we all know that being religious has nothing to do with God. If that was her actual statement I may not have a problem with it. I firmly believe we are convicted by the Holy spirit to repent and ask for forgiveness. This in fact could be all she meant. Some people have a hard time articulating what they mean. She may very well not meant to imply force. I agree with Bluestone it would take more information than you supplied for me to reach the conclusions you have reached. Maybe you have that information and just didn't spell it out here.
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